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sheri
#121 Posted : Thursday, January 26, 2017 9:45:55 AM
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PeterReborn wrote:
masukuma wrote:
grolut wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:

@masukuma, your opinion on the new developments. What's the matter with shared IDs ? How did the database accept shared IDs ?

And why is the IEBC such a hopeless communicator ? It's an election year and we know how dicey things can get.

Why would KPMG dirty its hands in the voter register issues ? Now the only thing some folks are seeing is the ( ethnic) name of the CEO.

What's the best way to do a clean-up to everyone's satisfaction ?


I saw a picture of the system, it seems that IEBC have not used the ID number as the primary key in the database, this would reject duplicates.

I suspect IEBC anticipated errors in data capture and avoided using it as the primary key in case it locked
voters out due to the errors. What they should have done is integrate it with the national register so that IEBC clerks and voters can search in real-time and confirm the ID number matches the particulars of the one registering.

let me ask a basic question... anyone can answer!!

WHO TOLD YOU THE ID NUMBER IS UNIQUE?

anyone is free to answer!!

secondly,
IF THE ID NUMBER UNIQUELY IDENTIFIES YOU - WHY GO BUY A 9 BILLION SHILLING SYSTEM TO CAPTURE BIOMETRICS?
Access could have handled it!!

#MythBusting!!

Why is the 9B system failing to detect the dublication of the ID Numbers?
Why not use a centralised database which checks if the ID number has been registered?
How difficult is it to write a code that ensure the ID number is only used once?If you try to reenter gives an error.
Why does immigration department issue IDs with similar numbers?


@PeterReborn the IEBC system is the one which is detecting the duplication of ID no's. The duplication is from what we can call the source of the data, which in this case should be the National Registration Bureau. NRB should work with IEBC to sort the issue of duplication. You don't need to write another code since the system is bought fully programmed and ready for installation. The IEBC only need to customize the system according to their perceived user needs. Remember any system is as good as it user. Secondly duplication should not occur during data entry if the right specifications of variables used is done properly during customization. The vendor of the system should be available for system support in any case of any problem.
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Njung'e
#122 Posted : Thursday, January 26, 2017 1:17:18 PM
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Voter registration via phones coming very soon.
Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
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masukuma
#123 Posted : Thursday, January 26, 2017 1:37:33 PM
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checking duplicates is kids stuff... mna sahau where the problem is coz you are focusing on the technology! ID Numbers are NOT UNIQUE!
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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PeterReborn
#124 Posted : Thursday, January 26, 2017 1:45:18 PM
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masukuma wrote:
checking duplicates is kids stuff... mna sahau where the problem is coz you are focusing on the technology! ID Numbers are NOT UNIQUE!

Why not make the ID numbers unique like the social security numbers.How difficult can that be?
Consistency is better than intensity
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Ngalaka
#125 Posted : Thursday, January 26, 2017 2:02:59 PM
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PeterReborn wrote:
masukuma wrote:
checking duplicates is kids stuff... mna sahau where the problem is coz you are focusing on the technology! ID Numbers are NOT UNIQUE!

Why not make the ID numbers unique like the social security numbers.How difficult can that be?

That is a question for Uhuru, his CS for interior - NRB and the caboodle
Isuni yilu yi maa me muyo - ni Mbisuu
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aemathenge
#126 Posted : Thursday, January 26, 2017 2:09:05 PM
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PeterReborn wrote:
masukuma wrote:
checking duplicates is kids stuff... mna sahau where the problem is coz you are focusing on the technology! ID Numbers are NOT UNIQUE!

Why not make the ID numbers unique like the social security numbers.How difficult can that be?

Because the National Registration Bureau has refused and or is unable to and or is too incompetent and or too corrupt to do so.

And because Uhuru, Raila, Wanjiku, mpigs, senators, governors, you and me do not censure the National Registration Bureau to work efficiently as we demand of IErectoralBC.
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masukuma
#127 Posted : Thursday, January 26, 2017 2:37:01 PM
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PeterReborn wrote:
masukuma wrote:
checking duplicates is kids stuff... mna sahau where the problem is coz you are focusing on the technology! ID Numbers are NOT UNIQUE!

Why not make the ID numbers unique like the social security numbers.How difficult can that be?

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly eh! uliza NRB!

All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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masukuma
#128 Posted : Thursday, January 26, 2017 2:41:17 PM
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the only way out is a 3rd generation ID card system that is centralized. apparently The NRB, has never run a centralised db. It has been a MANUAL system for many years with LOTS of errors!!

ID Numbers are 'yours' and other myths... like signature has to be a difficult to 'duplicate/forge' squiggle... your Passport is 'YOURS', your dad was always no.1, your land is YOURS!! myths galore!!
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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masukuma
#129 Posted : Thursday, January 26, 2017 2:47:25 PM
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uko wapi kwa hii curve?
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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sheri
#130 Posted : Thursday, January 26, 2017 2:52:30 PM
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masukuma wrote:
checking duplicates is kids stuff... mna sahau where the problem is coz you are focusing on the technology! ID Numbers are NOT UNIQUE!

@ Masukuma I think they should be but in our case they are not. And because they are not unique, they cannot be used as a unique identifier by the IEBC during election. There is a possibility the IEBC was aware of this and that why biometric identification through finger prints and facial recognition is necessary.

Technology is just an enabler. It Is a means to an end, not an end in itself


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