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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,822 Location: Nairobi
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aemathenge wrote:masukuma wrote:i give up!  Please do not. Much as I belabor my view, you actually have a point. I need your tenacity to interpret the numerous obnoxious situations arising from this thirty day registration period. The registration clerks in the field cannot transfer a registered erector from one polling station to another. You have to go to the constituency IEBC head office. This registration clerk has data of registered erectors for that polling station only. Yet they have a laptop computer with over 8gb of memory. Hypothetically, if the 22 year old PYT I am sponsoring is a student at MT. Kenya University wants to elect Ms. Waiguru, she will have to make arrangements to travel all the way to Kerugoya and register as an erector. She cannot do this at the registration center at MT. Kenya University. Does this strike you as odd? not really! i remember a certain case i run into in a small land-locked country - one with one neighbour. what happens if you register your transfer 2 times? which one supercedes the other? (not saying this is the reason by the way - just mentioning what I experienced). in this case, the IEBC got over 700k transfer requests and opted to push the data capture of these request upstream. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/18/2008 Posts: 3,434 Location: Kerugoya
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I am a student at Mombasa University. My home county is Kirinyaga. I would love to vote for Ni Ya Sweetie. I cannot register here at the Mombasa University registration center. I cannot afford to travel all the way to Kerugoya with Njaanuary brokenness. Isn't this denying Ni Ya Sweetie her rightful votes and thus vote rigging? Silkal (@Masukuma please saidia.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,822 Location: Nairobi
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aemathenge wrote:I am a student at Mombasa University.
My home county is Kirinyaga.
I would love to vote for Ni Ya Sweetie.
I cannot register here at the Mombasa University registration center.
I cannot afford to travel all the way to Kerugoya with Njaanuary brokenness.
Isn't this denying Ni Ya Sweetie her rightful votes and thus vote rigging?
Silkal (@Masukuma please saidia. i don't know if they have specified the constituency you should visit (last info I came across) - they said visit IEBC constituency offices. mimi siwezi saidia other than giving you advice... All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Chief Joined: 5/9/2007 Posts: 13,095
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aemathenge wrote:I am a student at Mombasa University.
My home county is Kirinyaga.
I would love to vote for Ni Ya Sweetie.
I cannot register here at the Mombasa University registration center.
I cannot afford to travel all the way to Kerugoya with Njaanuary brokenness.
Isn't this denying Ni Ya Sweetie her rightful votes and thus vote rigging?
Silkal (@Masukuma please saidia. What if the student registers at Mombasa then goes to the constituency IEBC office to change? Ama one have to go to the IEBC office of where they want to vote?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,822 Location: Nairobi
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washiku wrote:aemathenge wrote:I am a student at Mombasa University.
My home county is Kirinyaga.
I would love to vote for Ni Ya Sweetie.
I cannot register here at the Mombasa University registration center.
I cannot afford to travel all the way to Kerugoya with Njaanuary brokenness.
Isn't this denying Ni Ya Sweetie her rightful votes and thus vote rigging?
Silkal (@Masukuma please saidia. What if the student registers at Mombasa then goes to the constituency IEBC office to change? Ama one have to go to the IEBC office of where they want to vote? you go to the destination constituency - they know the details of all the polling stations and wards huko. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/18/2008 Posts: 3,434 Location: Kerugoya
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masukuma wrote:washiku wrote:aemathenge wrote:I am a student at Mombasa University.
My home county is Kirinyaga.
I would love to vote for Ni Ya Sweetie.
I cannot register here at the Mombasa University registration center.
I cannot afford to travel all the way to Kerugoya with Njaanuary brokenness.
Isn't this denying Ni Ya Sweetie her rightful votes and thus vote rigging?
Silkal (@Masukuma please saidia. What if the student registers at Mombasa then goes to the constituency IEBC office to change? Ama one have to go to the IEBC office of where they want to vote? you go to the destination constituency - they know the details of all the polling stations and wards huko. In the current registration center (Mombasa) "I" was referred to the Current-Residence Mombasa Constituency Head office. At the Current Mombasa Constituency Head Office, I was referred to the Destination Constituency Kaitheri Polytechnic Registration Center in far off Kerugoya. "I" cannot afford to make travel arrangements because of my current financial improvisation. Is voting for JP and NYsweetie worth this hassle?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,822 Location: Nairobi
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aemathenge wrote:masukuma wrote:washiku wrote:aemathenge wrote:I am a student at Mombasa University.
My home county is Kirinyaga.
I would love to vote for Ni Ya Sweetie.
I cannot register here at the Mombasa University registration center.
I cannot afford to travel all the way to Kerugoya with Njaanuary brokenness.
Isn't this denying Ni Ya Sweetie her rightful votes and thus vote rigging?
Silkal (@Masukuma please saidia. What if the student registers at Mombasa then goes to the constituency IEBC office to change? Ama one have to go to the IEBC office of where they want to vote? you go to the destination constituency - they know the details of all the polling stations and wards huko. In the current registration center (Mombasa) "I" was referred to the Current-Residence Mombasa Constituency Head office. At the Current Mombasa Constituency Head Office, I was referred to the Destination Constituency Kaitheri Polytechnic Registration Center in far off Kerugoya. "I" cannot afford to make travel arrangements because of my current financial improvisation. Is voting for JP and NYsweetie worth this hassle? you are already registered sio? you just want to move and vote for some person in a local seat - that you need to incur hiyo gharama if it's important enough to you. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/18/2008 Posts: 3,434 Location: Kerugoya
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masukuma wrote:aemathenge wrote:masukuma wrote:washiku wrote:aemathenge wrote:I am a student at Mombasa University.
My home county is Kirinyaga.
I would love to vote for Ni Ya Sweetie.
I cannot register here at the Mombasa University registration center.
I cannot afford to travel all the way to Kerugoya with Njaanuary brokenness.
Isn't this denying Ni Ya Sweetie her rightful votes and thus vote rigging?
Silkal (@Masukuma please saidia. What if the student registers at Mombasa then goes to the constituency IEBC office to change? Ama one have to go to the IEBC office of where they want to vote? you go to the destination constituency - they know the details of all the polling stations and wards huko. In the current registration center (Mombasa) "I" was referred to the Current-Residence Mombasa Constituency Head office. At the Current Mombasa Constituency Head Office, I was referred to the Destination Constituency Kaitheri Polytechnic Registration Center in far off Kerugoya. "I" cannot afford to make travel arrangements because of my current financial improvisation. Is voting for JP and NYsweetie worth this hassle? you are already registered sio? you just want to move and vote for some person in a local seat - that you need to incur hiyo gharama if it's important enough to you. No, "I" am not registered. Personally, The last time I registered was during the Ubuogable Yote Ya Wezekana, bila Moi - Kibaki Tosha - ECK Era. I did not participate in this boimetric gizmo whatever. The student is soliciting some funds from me to travel to Kerugoya to go and register. The student is not registered too. She got her National Identity Card recently.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,822 Location: Nairobi
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aemathenge wrote:masukuma wrote:aemathenge wrote:masukuma wrote:washiku wrote:aemathenge wrote:I am a student at Mombasa University.
My home county is Kirinyaga.
I would love to vote for Ni Ya Sweetie.
I cannot register here at the Mombasa University registration center.
I cannot afford to travel all the way to Kerugoya with Njaanuary brokenness.
Isn't this denying Ni Ya Sweetie her rightful votes and thus vote rigging?
Silkal (@Masukuma please saidia. What if the student registers at Mombasa then goes to the constituency IEBC office to change? Ama one have to go to the IEBC office of where they want to vote? you go to the destination constituency - they know the details of all the polling stations and wards huko. In the current registration center (Mombasa) "I" was referred to the Current-Residence Mombasa Constituency Head office. At the Current Mombasa Constituency Head Office, I was referred to the Destination Constituency Kaitheri Polytechnic Registration Center in far off Kerugoya. "I" cannot afford to make travel arrangements because of my current financial improvisation. Is voting for JP and NYsweetie worth this hassle? you are already registered sio? you just want to move and vote for some person in a local seat - that you need to incur hiyo gharama if it's important enough to you. No, "I" am not registered. Personally, The last time I registered was during the Ubuogable Yote Ya Wezekana, bila Moi - Kibaki Tosha - ECK Era. I did not participate in this boimetric gizmo whatever. The student is soliciting some funds from me to travel to Kerugoya to go and register. The student is not registered too. She got her National Identity Card recently. Register where you are! there is no law in kenya baring you from registering anywhere in the country (this is the reason we have all these transfer requests - 700k) All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,822 Location: Nairobi
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by the way... here is another one from Samcon All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/6/2008 Posts: 3,568
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Well written. However, note the failure in 2007/8 started before voting day and was not really a PEV as stated. IT STARTED this way:- To propagate the said "stuffing" in nyanza THE NIGHT BEFORE elections, LIES were spread that electoral GSU officials in some buses were rigging the election. This lies were also propagated on SK and some T.V stations provided "footage" of this LIE. This led to the MURDER of security officials of carefully "selected" gema soldiers, this was before the kiviutu saga, even before the voting, the tallying issues and so on. Officials were BEING KILLED BEFORE even the elections started for "rigging". What kind of "voice" is this? What kind of a savage election is this? A Kenyans freedom to vote where they please is the sign of a clean elections, not claims of "stolen" ballots, kama munaua watu and people have to "migrate" before an elections, that is a "junkish" democracy and true as you put it, one can blame the voters themselves! And they should accept the declaration of their electoral officials, otherwise it is wanjiku to die, for the tenders they ate e.t.c, just accept the outcome! The Chairman of the USA Federal reserve will tell you they print the dollar as a matter of trust and confidence. If we have a tribal party that NEVER has trust in our electoral mechanisms and we need to change the same year in year out at wanjikus expense! IF we cannot get candidates to TRUST Kenyans with their job, we have to CANDIDLY state the fact that the BULK of our election problems result from MISTRUST and LIES propagated by candidate, who are the only ones who benefit when Kenyans die and there is chaos! The rapist come out yelling NO PEACE! The KEY ingredient for a clean election. Ras Kienyeji Man
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,929
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Much Know wrote:Well written. However, note the failure in 2007/8 started before voting day and was not really a PEV as stated. IT STARTED this way:- To propagate the said "stuffing" in nyanza THE NIGHT BEFORE elections, LIES were spread that electoral GSU officials in some buses were rigging the election. This lies were also propagated on SK and some T.V stations provided "footage" of this LIE. This led to the MURDER of security officials of carefully "selected" gema soldiers, this was before the kiviutu saga, even before the voting, the tallying issues and so on. Officials were BEING KILLED BEFORE even the elections started for "rigging". What kind of "voice" is this? What kind of a savage election is this? A Kenyans freedom to vote where they please is the sign of a clean elections, not claims of "stolen" ballots, kama munaua watu and people have to "migrate" before an elections, that is a "junkish" democracy and true as you put it, one can blame the voters themselves! And they should accept the declaration of their electoral officials, otherwise it is wanjiku to die, for the tenders they ate e.t.c, just accept the outcome! The Chairman of the USA Federal reserve will tell you they print the dollar as a matter of trust and confidence. If we have a tribal party that NEVER has trust in our electoral mechanisms and we need to change the same year in year out at wanjikus expense! IF we cannot get candidates to TRUST Kenyans with their job, we have to CANDIDLY state the fact that the BULK of our election problems result from MISTRUST and LIES propagated by candidate, who are the only ones who benefit when Kenyans die and there is chaos! The rapist come out yelling NO PEACE! The KEY ingredient for a clean election. Why don't you write your piece we see if it will get space in a national newspaper instead of spoiling our own @masukuma's well researched opinion. In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/6/2008 Posts: 3,568
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Angelica _ann wrote:Much Know wrote:Well written. However, note the failure in 2007/8 started before voting day and was not really a PEV as stated. IT STARTED this way:- To propagate the said "stuffing" in nyanza THE NIGHT BEFORE elections, LIES were spread that electoral GSU officials in some buses were rigging the election. This lies were also propagated on SK and some T.V stations provided "footage" of this LIE. This led to the MURDER of security officials of carefully "selected" gema soldiers, this was before the kiviutu saga, even before the voting, the tallying issues and so on. Officials were BEING KILLED BEFORE even the elections started for "rigging". What kind of "voice" is this? What kind of a savage election is this? A Kenyans freedom to vote where they please is the sign of a clean elections, not claims of "stolen" ballots, kama munaua watu and people have to "migrate" before an elections, that is a "junkish" democracy and true as you put it, one can blame the voters themselves! And they should accept the declaration of their electoral officials, otherwise it is wanjiku to die, for the tenders they ate e.t.c, just accept the outcome! The Chairman of the USA Federal reserve will tell you they print the dollar as a matter of trust and confidence. If we have a tribal party that NEVER has trust in our electoral mechanisms and we need to change the same year in year out at wanjikus expense! IF we cannot get candidates to TRUST Kenyans with their job, we have to CANDIDLY state the fact that the BULK of our election problems result from MISTRUST and LIES propagated by candidate, who are the only ones who benefit when Kenyans die and there is chaos! The rapist come out yelling NO PEACE! The KEY ingredient for a clean election. Why don't you write your piece we see if it will get space in a national newspaper instead of spoiling our own @masukuma's well researched opinion. Ngoja yangu inakuja nii global publishers and radio madam! Please be patient and apply self control! Ras Kienyeji Man
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/23/2008 Posts: 3,017
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Good work @Masukuma  "The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/8/2008 Posts: 1,575
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RinkYes, move them in droves. @mahegoat, lipa hiyo fare or forward details to NYsweetie for facilitation; it may just work I care!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,822 Location: Nairobi
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Much Know wrote:Well written. However, note the failure in 2007/8 started before voting day and was not really a PEV as stated. IT STARTED this way:- To propagate the said "stuffing" in nyanza THE NIGHT BEFORE elections, LIES were spread that electoral GSU officials in some buses were rigging the election. This lies were also propagated on SK and some T.V stations provided "footage" of this LIE. This led to the MURDER of security officials of carefully "selected" gema soldiers, this was before the kiviutu saga, even before the voting, the tallying issues and so on. Officials were BEING KILLED BEFORE even the elections started for "rigging". What kind of "voice" is this? What kind of a savage election is this? A Kenyans freedom to vote where they please is the sign of a clean elections, not claims of "stolen" ballots, kama munaua watu and people have to "migrate" before an elections, that is a "junkish" democracy and true as you put it, one can blame the voters themselves! And they should accept the declaration of their electoral officials, otherwise it is wanjiku to die, for the tenders they ate e.t.c, just accept the outcome! The Chairman of the USA Federal reserve will tell you they print the dollar as a matter of trust and confidence. If we have a tribal party that NEVER has trust in our electoral mechanisms and we need to change the same year in year out at wanjikus expense! IF we cannot get candidates to TRUST Kenyans with their job, we have to CANDIDLY state the fact that the BULK of our election problems result from MISTRUST and LIES propagated by candidate, who are the only ones who benefit when Kenyans die and there is chaos! The rapist come out yelling NO PEACE! The KEY ingredient for a clean election. i chose my words rather carefully - Quote:The nature of our politics is that it’s ethnicity-driven and, therefore, polling stations located in areas with a homogenous ethnic make-up — especially those that are in regions that support a major presidential candidate — are considered high-risk areas for voter fraud in the form of “ballot stuffing” to occur. didn't said it occurs just said it's a high risk area. the 2007 election was a turning point in my life. I was in KICC when that kaleo man raised his voice and made accusation against the ECK. I was in the room when wailer pointed at "the returning officer for molo". I was in the country when ODM raised issues claiming the official progressive count form was the legitimate final form and people listened to them. this place burnt! i have always insisted that Kibaki won the election (tafuteni hapa wazua) but Raila won the noise making and changed the perception game. in elections... PERCEPTIONS ARE KEY! thus addressing perceived issues of credibility within polling stations will do more good than harm. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/6/2008 Posts: 3,568
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masukuma wrote:Much Know wrote:Well written. However, note the failure in 2007/8 started before voting day and was not really a PEV as stated. IT STARTED this way:- To propagate the said "stuffing" in nyanza THE NIGHT BEFORE elections, LIES were spread that electoral GSU officials in some buses were rigging the election. This lies were also propagated on SK and some T.V stations provided "footage" of this LIE. This led to the MURDER of security officials of carefully "selected" gema soldiers, this was before the kiviutu saga, even before the voting, the tallying issues and so on. Officials were BEING KILLED BEFORE even the elections started for "rigging". What kind of "voice" is this? What kind of a savage election is this? A Kenyans freedom to vote where they please is the sign of a clean elections, not claims of "stolen" ballots, kama munaua watu and people have to "migrate" before an elections, that is a "junkish" democracy and true as you put it, one can blame the voters themselves! And they should accept the declaration of their electoral officials, otherwise it is wanjiku to die, for the tenders they ate e.t.c, just accept the outcome! The Chairman of the USA Federal reserve will tell you they print the dollar as a matter of trust and confidence. If we have a tribal party that NEVER has trust in our electoral mechanisms and we need to change the same year in year out at wanjikus expense! IF we cannot get candidates to TRUST Kenyans with their job, we have to CANDIDLY state the fact that the BULK of our election problems result from MISTRUST and LIES propagated by candidate, who are the only ones who benefit when Kenyans die and there is chaos! The rapist come out yelling NO PEACE! The KEY ingredient for a clean election. i chose my words rather carefully - Quote:The nature of our politics is that it’s ethnicity-driven and, therefore, polling stations located in areas with a homogenous ethnic make-up — especially those that are in regions that support a major presidential candidate — are considered high-risk areas for voter fraud in the form of “ballot stuffing” to occur. didn't said it occurs just said it's a high risk area. the 2007 election was a turning point in my life. I was in KICC when that kaleo man raised his voice and made accusation against the ECK. I was in the room when wailer pointed at "the returning officer for molo". I was in the country when ODM raised issues claiming the official progressive count form was the legitimate final form and people listened to them. this place burnt! i have always insisted that Kibaki won the election (tafuteni hapa wazua) but Raila won the noise making and changed the perception game. in elections... PERCEPTIONS ARE KEY! thus addressing perceived issues of credibility within polling stations will do more good than harm. Indeed we understand you had to choose your words carefully, the article will give many something to begin talking about, the delivery of the message was great, just felt like salt and peppering it in wazua kidogo. Great job! Ras Kienyeji Man
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/3/2014 Posts: 1,063
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/3/2014 Posts: 1,063
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Very low turnout in the mountain.Jubilee has a lot of work to do.Only Moses Kuria is doing his bit. Consistency is better than intensity
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/3/2014 Posts: 1,063
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C&P President Uhuru Kenyatta will, beginning tomorrow, embark on a countrywide tour aimed at urging Kenyans to turn out in large numbers for voter registration. The President will kick-off his tours with visits to Muranga, Nyeri, Meru, Laikipia and Kirinyaga counties this week. On Thursday, the President will be in Muranga County. He is scheduled to start at Blue Post and then head to Jogoo Kimakia, Gatunyu, Gatanga Junction, Gacharage, Kangari, Kigumo, Kirere, Muthithi, Kaharati, Maragua and Muranga towns, Kahuhia, Kangema and Kiria-ini. On Friday, the President will be in Nyeri County, and is expected to visit Kiamariga, Kaburuini, Kawarigi, Karatina, Ichamara, Kiandu, Nyeri Town, King’ong’o, Kiganjo and Chaka. On Saturday, Monday and Tuesday, the President will tour Meru, Laikipia and Kirinyaga counties respectively. Embu Wednesday. Mombasa and Nakuru and many more counties are lined up as the next areas the President will visit to urge Kenyans to register to vote. Details of the visits will be announced at a later date. His Excellency the President desires to see the largest number of Kenyans exercise their democratic right to register as voters, and importantly cast their ballots in August. Consistency is better than intensity
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