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masukuma
#21 Posted : Monday, January 16, 2017 3:05:15 PM
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aemathenge wrote:
masukuma wrote:
segemia wrote:
aemathenge wrote:
masukuma wrote:
technically there is no thing called "voters card" - it's an ACKNOWLEDGEMENT SLIP! it's an administrative document issued by the IEBC that has no legal basis or backing. it's a token coz people love to be given stuff after registration to feel like they did "register"

Indeed.

I will not be fed at a burial without it.

The "Provincial Administration" will not give me services until I produce one.

The PYT I am sponsoring will deny me "landing" rights unless I show her "mine."

The "security guard" at the local "mall" has got additional duties starting today. Ensuring nobody in until they flash one.

Some mpigs have resolved to withhold bursary cheques until parents produce this "token."

Some Governors have given their clerical officers instructions to withhold tenda cheques to anyone who does not produce this mere acknowledgement slip without legal backing or basis.

Ad infinitum.

So far so good

just because you and your other ignorant and therefore misled group have given it meaning does not mean it has inherent meaning!! it's like banglapesa

I beg to differ.

Would be so kind and look at this link, and then re-read your sentiments again.


i got it right "inherent" - existing in someone or something as a permanent and inseparable element, quality, or attribute. as an adjective.
Antonyms - alien, foreign; accidental, coincidental, incidental; acquired, adscititious; superficial, surface; exterior, external

when I say the acknowledgement slip has no inherent meaning or legal basis - i don't say it does not have meaning - I am basically saying you and others have given it meaning as opposed to it not having an intrinsic meaning.
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
aemathenge
#22 Posted : Monday, January 16, 2017 3:28:49 PM
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Posts: 3,434
Location: Kerugoya
masukuma wrote:
aemathenge wrote:
masukuma wrote:
segemia wrote:
aemathenge wrote:
masukuma wrote:
technically there is no thing called "voters card" - it's an ACKNOWLEDGEMENT SLIP! it's an administrative document issued by the IEBC that has no legal basis or backing. it's a token coz people love to be given stuff after registration to feel like they did "register"

Indeed.

I will not be fed at a burial without it.

The "Provincial Administration" will not give me services until I produce one.

The PYT I am sponsoring will deny me "landing" rights unless I show her "mine."

The "security guard" at the local "mall" has got additional duties starting today. Ensuring nobody in until they flash one.

Some mpigs have resolved to withhold bursary cheques until parents produce this "token."

Some Governors have given their clerical officers instructions to withhold tenda cheques to anyone who does not produce this mere acknowledgement slip without legal backing or basis.

Ad infinitum.

So far so good

just because you and your other ignorant and therefore misled group have given it meaning does not mean it has inherent meaning!! it's like banglapesa

I beg to differ.

Would be so kind and look at this link, and then re-read your sentiments again.


i got it right "inherent" - existing in someone or something as a permanent and inseparable element, quality, or attribute. as an adjective.
Antonyms - alien, foreign; accidental, coincidental, incidental; acquired, adscititious; superficial, surface; exterior, external

when I say the acknowledgement slip has no inherent meaning or legal basis - i don't say it does not have meaning - I am basically saying you and others have given it meaning as opposed to it not having an intrinsic meaning.

In that regard, it boils down to where we individually and respectively stand.

To the nerdy Matiang'i (Bless his Soul) A members of of this society, the @Masukumas of this world, this little piece of paper has no intrinsic, inherent value.

This is irrespective of the money, intellectual property rights, and other resources expended to produce this inherently worthless piece of paper.

To the majority of us Matiang'i (Bless his Soul) D citizens, our money or actions remain useless for the next thirty days unless we can produce this all important piece of paper.

How inherently important it is is underlined by Landlords in certain areas refunding rent money and evicting anyone not producing this piece of paper.
Wamunyota
#23 Posted : Monday, January 16, 2017 3:33:20 PM
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Joined: 6/23/2014
Posts: 1,652
aemathenge wrote:
masukuma wrote:
aemathenge wrote:
masukuma wrote:
segemia wrote:
aemathenge wrote:
masukuma wrote:
technically there is no thing called "voters card" - it's an ACKNOWLEDGEMENT SLIP! it's an administrative document issued by the IEBC that has no legal basis or backing. it's a token coz people love to be given stuff after registration to feel like they did "register"

Indeed.

I will not be fed at a burial without it.

The "Provincial Administration" will not give me services until I produce one.

The PYT I am sponsoring will deny me "landing" rights unless I show her "mine."

The "security guard" at the local "mall" has got additional duties starting today. Ensuring nobody in until they flash one.

Some mpigs have resolved to withhold bursary cheques until parents produce this "token."

Some Governors have given their clerical officers instructions to withhold tenda cheques to anyone who does not produce this mere acknowledgement slip without legal backing or basis.

Ad infinitum.

So far so good

just because you and your other ignorant and therefore misled group have given it meaning does not mean it has inherent meaning!! it's like banglapesa

I beg to differ.

Would be so kind and look at this link, and then re-read your sentiments again.


i got it right "inherent" - existing in someone or something as a permanent and inseparable element, quality, or attribute. as an adjective.
Antonyms - alien, foreign; accidental, coincidental, incidental; acquired, adscititious; superficial, surface; exterior, external

when I say the acknowledgement slip has no inherent meaning or legal basis - i don't say it does not have meaning - I am basically saying you and others have given it meaning as opposed to it not having an intrinsic meaning.

In that regard, it boils down to where we individually and respectively stand.

To the nerdy Matiang'i (Bless his Soul) A members of of this society, the @Masukumas of this world, this little piece of paper has no intrinsic, inherent value.

This is irrespective of the money, intellectual property rights, and other resources expended to produce this inherently worthless piece of paper.

To the majority of us Matiang'i (Bless his Soul) D citizens, our money or actions remain useless for the next thirty days unless we can produce this all important piece of paper.

How inherently important it is is underlined by Landlords in certain areas refunding rent money and evicting anyone not producing this piece of paper.

@Mahegoat Is bless his soul=PBUH?Is it used for the departed?
Hutia Mundu!!
Wamunyota
#24 Posted : Monday, January 16, 2017 3:35:51 PM
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Joined: 6/23/2014
Posts: 1,652


Hutia Mundu!!
aemathenge
#25 Posted : Monday, January 16, 2017 3:44:06 PM
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Joined: 10/18/2008
Posts: 3,434
Location: Kerugoya
Wamunyota wrote:
@Mahegoat Is bless his soul=PBUH?Is it used for the departed?

In all sincerity, I do not know.

It is, however, my personal way of expressing my appreciation of the good work this Statesman is doing.

This is, of course, until he does something extremely stupid and falls from grace.

In addition, for those that have passed away, I pray that May The Good Lord Rest Their Soul in Eternal Peace or RIP.

Wamunyota
#26 Posted : Monday, January 16, 2017 3:49:06 PM
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Joined: 6/23/2014
Posts: 1,652
aemathenge wrote:
Wamunyota wrote:
@Mahegoat Is bless his soul=PBUH?Is it used for the departed?

In all sincerity, I do not know.

It is, however, my personal way of expressing my appreciation of the good work this Statesman is doing.

This is, of course, until he does something extremely stupid and falls from grace.

In addition, for those that have passed away, I pray that May The Good Lord Rest Their Soul in Eternal Peace or RIP.


You are our in-house 'Word Master'so dont disappoint your students.
Hutia Mundu!!
masukuma
#27 Posted : Monday, January 16, 2017 4:12:33 PM
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Joined: 10/4/2006
Posts: 13,822
Location: Nairobi
aemathenge wrote:
masukuma wrote:
aemathenge wrote:
masukuma wrote:
segemia wrote:
aemathenge wrote:
masukuma wrote:
technically there is no thing called "voters card" - it's an ACKNOWLEDGEMENT SLIP! it's an administrative document issued by the IEBC that has no legal basis or backing. it's a token coz people love to be given stuff after registration to feel like they did "register"

Indeed.

I will not be fed at a burial without it.

The "Provincial Administration" will not give me services until I produce one.

The PYT I am sponsoring will deny me "landing" rights unless I show her "mine."

The "security guard" at the local "mall" has got additional duties starting today. Ensuring nobody in until they flash one.

Some mpigs have resolved to withhold bursary cheques until parents produce this "token."

Some Governors have given their clerical officers instructions to withhold tenda cheques to anyone who does not produce this mere acknowledgement slip without legal backing or basis.

Ad infinitum.

So far so good

just because you and your other ignorant and therefore misled group have given it meaning does not mean it has inherent meaning!! it's like banglapesa

I beg to differ.

Would be so kind and look at this link, and then re-read your sentiments again.


i got it right "inherent" - existing in someone or something as a permanent and inseparable element, quality, or attribute. as an adjective.
Antonyms - alien, foreign; accidental, coincidental, incidental; acquired, adscititious; superficial, surface; exterior, external

when I say the acknowledgement slip has no inherent meaning or legal basis - i don't say it does not have meaning - I am basically saying you and others have given it meaning as opposed to it not having an intrinsic meaning.

In that regard, it boils down to where we individually and respectively stand.

To the nerdy Matiang'i (Bless his Soul) A members of of this society, the @Masukumas of this world, this little piece of paper has no intrinsic, inherent value.

This is irrespective of the money, intellectual property rights, and other resources expended to produce this inherently worthless piece of paper.

To the majority of us Matiang'i (Bless his Soul) D citizens, our money or actions remain useless for the next thirty days unless we can produce this all important piece of paper.

How inherently important it is is underlined by Landlords in certain areas refunding rent money and evicting anyone not producing this piece of paper.

So the narrative behind the "acknowledgement slip" went something like this.
Side 1: the law does not require that we give them something after reg. Let's not give them anything.
Side 2: that won't fly... we need to give them "something" so that they feel registered. A token.
Side 1: but we cannot give them a voters card.
Side 2: let's call this something else... a... aacknowledgement skip.
Side 1: that will work.

So I'm your possession is a useless document given to you when you registered. I threw mine away as soon as I got it. Why? Coz I know it's useless.... cost money but It's pointless... I still voted.
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
Rollins
#28 Posted : Monday, January 16, 2017 4:29:09 PM
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Joined: 3/23/2011
Posts: 503
Bigchick wrote:
masukuma wrote:
technically there is no thing called "voters card" - it's an ACKNOWLEDGEMENT SLIP! it's an administrative document issued by the IEBC that has no legal basis or backing. it's a token coz people love to be given stuff after registration to feel like they did "register"



So what was that kacard that@KethyKilonzo the thief was alleged to have stolen?

Glad to know I can vote without it.

If its stress to change I will be fine kicking out Kabufallo though I would have felt better kicking Kidero.😜😜


Don't waste your vote...better go vote in Nairobi
Even a BrOKeN clock is right twice a day
aemathenge
#29 Posted : Monday, January 16, 2017 5:20:19 PM
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Joined: 10/18/2008
Posts: 3,434
Location: Kerugoya
masukuma wrote:
So I'm (in?) your possession is a useless document given to you when you registered.

I threw mine away as soon as I got it.

Why? Coz I know it's useless.... cost money but It's pointless... I still voted.


Read the sentences above out LOUDLY.

Roll the words in your mouth and taste the true meaning of what they denote.

In your continued play with semantics, you reveal a penchant for narcissism that is utterly nauseating and a disdain for the common man out there on the dusty, sun drenched world.

In your vanity and conceit, you fail to appreciate that for the next thirty days or so, it will not be about "I still voted" you.

It is about the hunger ravaged Kenyan Citizens who will be denied food aid merely because they do not possess this piece of "useless paper".

I have nothing personal against you. I truly do not.

But please, don't push it, and that is not a threat.
Shak
#30 Posted : Monday, January 16, 2017 5:23:42 PM
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FROM THE IEBC WEBSITE

How do you register as a voter?

An eligible voter must present himself or herself to the registration officer with his/her original identification documents at the designated registration centre during working hours.
The applicant fills the Application for Registration form (Form A)
Registered voters will be issued with a registration acknowledgement slip bearing the voter′s details.
However, this slip will not be a requirement for voting.


2. When can someone be denied registration?

When you are under 18 years of age
When you are not in possession of the original ID card or a valid Kenyan passport
When one is un-discharged bankrupt
When you have been found guilty by an election court or reported to be guilty of any election offence during the preceding five years.
If a competent court declares you to be of unsound mind


3. Is an eligible voter allowed to register more than once?

No! A person is only allowed to register once as a voter in a constituency or registration centre of his or her choice. It is an offence to register more than once.

4. What is the penalty of registering more than once?

Persons who have registered more than once are liable on conviction, to a fine not exceeding one hundred thousand Kenya shillings or imprisonment for a term not exceeding one year or both. Such persons shall be barred from participating in the immediate election and the next that follows.

5. Can a person transfer as a voter to another registration centre or constituency?


YES! A person may transfer as a voter to another registration centre of his or her choice within the registration period
marko
#31 Posted : Monday, January 16, 2017 5:30:26 PM
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Wamunyota wrote:



Baba looks lost
WHO DARES WINS
murchr
#32 Posted : Monday, January 16, 2017 5:39:58 PM
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What was going on hapo^^^ Kuria is very chonjo
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masukuma
#33 Posted : Monday, January 16, 2017 5:43:40 PM
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Joined: 10/4/2006
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aemathenge wrote:
masukuma wrote:
So I'm (in?) your possession is a useless document given to you when you registered.

I threw mine away as soon as I got it.

Why? Coz I know it's useless.... cost money but It's pointless... I still voted.


Read the sentences above out LOUDLY.

Roll the words in your mouth and taste the true meaning of what they denote.

In your continued play with semantics, you reveal a penchant for narcissism that is utterly nauseating and a disdain for the common man out there on the dusty, sun drenched world.

In your vanity and conceit, you fail to appreciate that for the next thirty days or so, it will not be about "I still voted" you.

It is about the hunger ravaged Kenyan Citizens who will be denied food aid merely because they do not possess this piece of "useless paper".

I have nothing personal against you. I truly do not.

But please, don't push it, and that is not a threat.

it's useless in itself.... you and your ignorant clicque have given it meaning... and the example i gave is banglapesa!
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
aemathenge
#34 Posted : Monday, January 16, 2017 6:30:32 PM
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Joined: 10/18/2008
Posts: 3,434
Location: Kerugoya
masukuma wrote:
aemathenge wrote:
masukuma wrote:
So I'm (in?) your possession is a useless document given to you when you registered.

I threw mine away as soon as I got it.

Why? Coz I know it's useless.... cost money but It's pointless... I still voted.


Read the sentences above out LOUDLY.

Roll the words in your mouth and taste the true meaning of what they denote.

In your continued play with semantics, you reveal a penchant for narcissism that is utterly nauseating and a disdain for the common man out there on the dusty, sun drenched world.

In your vanity and conceit, you fail to appreciate that for the next thirty days or so, it will not be about "I still voted" you.

It is about the hunger ravaged Kenyan Citizens who will be denied food aid merely because they do not possess this piece of "useless paper".

I have nothing personal against you. I truly do not.

But please, don't push it, and that is not a threat.

it's useless in itself.... you and your ignorant clicque have given it meaning... and the example i gave is banglapesa!

Stick around.

For the next thirty days, this ignorant clique will, God forbid, pour blood, cause boldly harm and engage in destruction of property on account of failure to produce this useless in itself piece of paper.

In addition to the resultant pain will be your miserably conceited soul's lark of empathy and a conscience.

Much is the pity that you can live with that.
masukuma
#35 Posted : Monday, January 16, 2017 7:17:11 PM
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aemathenge wrote:
masukuma wrote:
aemathenge wrote:
masukuma wrote:
So I'm (in?) your possession is a useless document given to you when you registered.

I threw mine away as soon as I got it.

Why? Coz I know it's useless.... cost money but It's pointless... I still voted.


Read the sentences above out LOUDLY.

Roll the words in your mouth and taste the true meaning of what they denote.

In your continued play with semantics, you reveal a penchant for narcissism that is utterly nauseating and a disdain for the common man out there on the dusty, sun drenched world.

In your vanity and conceit, you fail to appreciate that for the next thirty days or so, it will not be about "I still voted" you.

It is about the hunger ravaged Kenyan Citizens who will be denied food aid merely because they do not possess this piece of "useless paper".

I have nothing personal against you. I truly do not.

But please, don't push it, and that is not a threat.

it's useless in itself.... you and your ignorant clicque have given it meaning... and the example i gave is banglapesa!

Stick around.

For the next thirty days, this ignorant clique will, God forbid, pour blood, cause boldly harm and engage in destruction of property on account of failure to produce this useless in itself piece of paper.

In addition to the resultant pain will be your miserably conceited soul's lark of empathy and a conscience.

Much is the pity that you can live with that.

people have killed each other for other imaginary ideas... it does not make the ideas 'inherently real'.
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
aemathenge
#36 Posted : Monday, January 16, 2017 10:13:33 PM
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Joined: 10/18/2008
Posts: 3,434
Location: Kerugoya
masukuma wrote:
aemathenge wrote:
masukuma wrote:
aemathenge wrote:
masukuma wrote:
So I'm (in?) your possession is a useless document given to you when you registered.

I threw mine away as soon as I got it.

Why? Coz I know it's useless.... cost money but It's pointless... I still voted.


Read the sentences above out LOUDLY.

Roll the words in your mouth and taste the true meaning of what they denote.

In your continued play with semantics, you reveal a penchant for narcissism that is utterly nauseating and a disdain for the common man out there on the dusty, sun drenched world.

In your vanity and conceit, you fail to appreciate that for the next thirty days or so, it will not be about "I still voted" you.

It is about the hunger ravaged Kenyan Citizens who will be denied food aid merely because they do not possess this piece of "useless paper".

I have nothing personal against you. I truly do not.

But please, don't push it, and that is not a threat.

it's useless in itself.... you and your ignorant clicque have given it meaning... and the example i gave is banglapesa!

Stick around.

For the next thirty days, this ignorant clique will, God forbid, pour blood, cause boldly harm and engage in destruction of property on account of failure to produce this useless in itself piece of paper.

In addition to the resultant pain will be your miserably conceited soul's lark of empathy and a conscience.

Much is the pity that you can live with that.

people have killed each other for other imaginary ideas... it does not make the ideas 'inherently real'.

There YOU go again.

Imaginary to YOU.

Something to real to kill or to die for for THEM.
masukuma
#37 Posted : Tuesday, January 17, 2017 3:10:23 AM
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Joined: 10/4/2006
Posts: 13,822
Location: Nairobi
aemathenge wrote:
masukuma wrote:
aemathenge wrote:
masukuma wrote:
aemathenge wrote:
masukuma wrote:
So I'm (in?) your possession is a useless document given to you when you registered.

I threw mine away as soon as I got it.

Why? Coz I know it's useless.... cost money but It's pointless... I still voted.


Read the sentences above out LOUDLY.

Roll the words in your mouth and taste the true meaning of what they denote.

In your continued play with semantics, you reveal a penchant for narcissism that is utterly nauseating and a disdain for the common man out there on the dusty, sun drenched world.

In your vanity and conceit, you fail to appreciate that for the next thirty days or so, it will not be about "I still voted" you.

It is about the hunger ravaged Kenyan Citizens who will be denied food aid merely because they do not possess this piece of "useless paper".

I have nothing personal against you. I truly do not.

But please, don't push it, and that is not a threat.

it's useless in itself.... you and your ignorant clicque have given it meaning... and the example i gave is banglapesa!

Stick around.

For the next thirty days, this ignorant clique will, God forbid, pour blood, cause boldly harm and engage in destruction of property on account of failure to produce this useless in itself piece of paper.

In addition to the resultant pain will be your miserably conceited soul's lark of empathy and a conscience.

Much is the pity that you can live with that.

people have killed each other for other imaginary ideas... it does not make the ideas 'inherently real'.

There YOU go again.

Imaginary to YOU.

Something to real to kill or to die for for THEM.

NEWS FLASH - it does not stop being imaginary because many people think it is not! 👈 and that is why i used the term inherent as opposed to 'consensus'.
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
aemathenge
#38 Posted : Tuesday, January 17, 2017 8:35:23 AM
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Posts: 3,434
Location: Kerugoya
masukuma wrote:
NEWS FLASH - it does not stop being imaginary because many people think it is not! 👈 and that is why i used the term inherent as opposed to 'consensus'.

Gee you are jealous.

You create something useless for the masses and the masses create something inherently great out of it.

That must really rancor (Rancour).
masukuma
#39 Posted : Tuesday, January 17, 2017 8:38:29 AM
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Joined: 10/4/2006
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aemathenge wrote:
masukuma wrote:
NEWS FLASH - it does not stop being imaginary because many people think it is not! 👈 and that is why i used the term inherent as opposed to 'consensus'.

Gee you are jealous.

You create something useless for the masses and the masses create something inherently great out of it.

That must really rancor (Rancour).

i give up! Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
aemathenge
#40 Posted : Tuesday, January 17, 2017 9:16:06 AM
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Joined: 10/18/2008
Posts: 3,434
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masukuma wrote:
i give up! Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

Please do not. Much as I belabor my view, you actually have a point.

I need your tenacity to interpret the numerous obnoxious situations arising from this thirty day registration period.

The registration clerks in the field cannot transfer a registered erector from one polling station to another.

You have to go to the constituency IEBC head office.

This registration clerk has data of registered erectors for that polling station only.

Yet they have a laptop computer with over 8gb of memory.

Hypothetically, if the 22 year old PYT I am sponsoring is a student at MT. Kenya University wants to elect Ms. Waiguru, she will have to make arrangements to travel all the way to Kerugoya and register as an erector.

She cannot do this at the registration center at MT. Kenya University.

Does this strike you as odd?
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