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US Elections, Hillary or Trump?
washiku
#1461 Posted : Wednesday, January 11, 2017 10:45:25 AM
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masukuma wrote:
hardwood wrote:
Trump was anointed by Ronald Reagan years ago....






I am guessing everyone Regan shook hands with was anointed? Regan was the 'Annointer' in Chief!


Hehehe...More like everyone Regan shook hands with will be prisident
hardwood
#1462 Posted : Wednesday, January 11, 2017 11:48:12 AM
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washiku wrote:
masukuma wrote:
hardwood wrote:
Trump was anointed by Ronald Reagan years ago....






I am guessing everyone Regan shook hands with was anointed? Regan was the 'Annointer' in Chief!


Hehehe...More like everyone Regan shook hands with will be prisident


We should look beyond the handshakes and see the story behind the handshake. Some of these pictures are "complicated".

limanika
#1463 Posted : Wednesday, January 11, 2017 4:05:58 PM
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Joined: 9/21/2011
Posts: 2,032
hardwood wrote:
limanika wrote:
Behold, the first US president who is set to make excuses and justifications on behalf of Russia for every mistep going forward. Europe can go hang!


After the cold war and all that, I think its time the world entered another phase where the super powers are good friends and each other's "brother's keeper". This is because the threats of the 21st century are different from those of the 20th. For instance terrorism has affected all superpowers and they need to work closely together to rid the world of the vice.

It's a complex wworld. What has defined global politics last 100yrs is the divind btwn Russia and Europe. US has exploited this divide to ensure they remain tops, since any union btwn Russia and EU would create a behemoth they cant dictate to. So its in US interest to have Russia isolated. Its also in EUs iterest to have Russia isolated so they have more say in global arena.
Any change of policy by US would have to be driven realities of the day - mainly by CIA not the president. That's why Trump looks so naive.
AlphDoti
#1464 Posted : Wednesday, January 11, 2017 4:10:05 PM
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Joined: 6/20/2008
Posts: 6,275
Location: Kenya
limanika wrote:
hardwood wrote:
limanika wrote:
Behold, the first US president who is set to make excuses and justifications on behalf of Russia for every mistep going forward. Europe can go hang!

After the cold war and all that, I think its time the world entered another phase where the super powers are good friends and each other's "brother's keeper". This is because the threats of the 21st century are different from those of the 20th. For instance terrorism has affected all superpowers and they need to work closely together to rid the world of the vice.

It's a complex wworld. What has defined global politics last 100yrs is the divind btwn Russia and Europe. US has exploited this divide to ensure they remain tops, since any union btwn Russia and EU would create a behemoth they cant dictate to. So its in US interest to have Russia isolated. Its also in EUs iterest to have Russia isolated so they have more say in global arena.
Any change of policy by US would have to be driven realities of the day - mainly by CIA not the president. That's why Trump looks so naive.

Things have changed now. Yes, they isolated EU but now there are options: China. Putin himself said: there is need for balance of power in the world to tame the bully. And this is developing slowly... We're headed for the big stand-off
masukuma
#1465 Posted : Wednesday, January 11, 2017 4:17:32 PM
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hardwood wrote:
washiku wrote:
masukuma wrote:
hardwood wrote:
Trump was anointed by Ronald Reagan years ago....






I am guessing everyone Regan shook hands with was anointed? Regan was the 'Annointer' in Chief!


Hehehe...More like everyone Regan shook hands with will be prisident


We should look beyond the handshakes and see the story behind the handshake. Some of these pictures are "complicated".


i am sure you can reverse engineer anything... you see a photo like this and say..

what were they signing?
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
limanika
#1466 Posted : Wednesday, January 11, 2017 4:31:58 PM
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Joined: 9/21/2011
Posts: 2,032
AlphDoti wrote:
limanika wrote:
hardwood wrote:
limanika wrote:
Behold, the first US president who is set to make excuses and justifications on behalf of Russia for every mistep going forward. Europe can go hang!

After the cold war and all that, I think its time the world entered another phase where the super powers are good friends and each other's "brother's keeper". This is because the threats of the 21st century are different from those of the 20th. For instance terrorism has affected all superpowers and they need to work closely together to rid the world of the vice.

It's a complex wworld. What has defined global politics last 100yrs is the divind btwn Russia and Europe. US has exploited this divide to ensure they remain tops, since any union btwn Russia and EU would create a behemoth they cant dictate to. So its in US interest to have Russia isolated. Its also in EUs iterest to have Russia isolated so they have more say in global arena.
Any change of policy by US would have to be driven realities of the day - mainly by CIA not the president. That's why Trump looks so naive.

Things have changed now. Yes, they isolated EU but now there are options: China. Putin himself said: there is need for balance of power in the world to tame the bully. And this is developing slowly... We're headed for the big stand-off

So who's the bully Putin would be referring to? Same US? So Trump playing into his hands? But CIA won't have any of this none sense. Tighten yr belts
AlphDoti
#1467 Posted : Wednesday, January 11, 2017 4:58:22 PM
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Joined: 6/20/2008
Posts: 6,275
Location: Kenya
limanika wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
limanika wrote:
hardwood wrote:
limanika wrote:
Behold, the first US president who is set to make excuses and justifications on behalf of Russia for every mistep going forward. Europe can go hang!

After the cold war and all that, I think its time the world entered another phase where the super powers are good friends and each other's "brother's keeper". This is because the threats of the 21st century are different from those of the 20th. For instance terrorism has affected all superpowers and they need to work closely together to rid the world of the vice.

It's a complex wworld. What has defined global politics last 100yrs is the divind btwn Russia and Europe. US has exploited this divide to ensure they remain tops, since any union btwn Russia and EU would create a behemoth they cant dictate to. So its in US interest to have Russia isolated. Its also in EUs iterest to have Russia isolated so they have more say in global arena.
Any change of policy by US would have to be driven realities of the day - mainly by CIA not the president. That's why Trump looks so naive.

Things have changed now. Yes, they isolated EU but now there are options: China. Putin himself said: there is need for balance of power in the world to tame the bully. And this is developing slowly... We're headed for the big stand-off

So who's the bully Putin would be referring to? Same US? So Trump playing into his hands? But CIA won't have any of this none sense. Tighten yr belts

I'm sure Trump himself is shocked to realize he is there to implement, mostly, the script he is going to be given.
Nandwa
#1468 Posted : Wednesday, January 11, 2017 5:20:57 PM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 11/17/2009
Posts: 1,049
AlphDoti wrote:
limanika wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
limanika wrote:
hardwood wrote:
limanika wrote:
Behold, the first US president who is set to make excuses and justifications on behalf of Russia for every mistep going forward. Europe can go hang!

After the cold war and all that, I think its time the world entered another phase where the super powers are good friends and each other's "brother's keeper". This is because the threats of the 21st century are different from those of the 20th. For instance terrorism has affected all superpowers and they need to work closely together to rid the world of the vice.

It's a complex wworld. What has defined global politics last 100yrs is the divind btwn Russia and Europe. US has exploited this divide to ensure they remain tops, since any union btwn Russia and EU would create a behemoth they cant dictate to. So its in US interest to have Russia isolated. Its also in EUs iterest to have Russia isolated so they have more say in global arena.
Any change of policy by US would have to be driven realities of the day - mainly by CIA not the president. That's why Trump looks so naive.

Things have changed now. Yes, they isolated EU but now there are options: China. Putin himself said: there is need for balance of power in the world to tame the bully. And this is developing slowly... We're headed for the big stand-off

So who's the bully Putin would be referring to? Same US? So Trump playing into his hands? But CIA won't have any of this none sense. Tighten yr belts

I'm sure Trump himself is shocked to realize he is there to implement, mostly, the script he is going to be given.

who draws the script!
And assuming that Trump wont be the one doing it as suggested, wouldn't it be so much the better than having him implement his crazy ideas!
Just as absolute power corrupts leaders, so does absolute fanaticism blind the people from logic
Ngalaka
#1469 Posted : Wednesday, January 11, 2017 5:34:56 PM
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Joined: 10/29/2008
Posts: 1,566
@limanika & @AlphDoti seem to be talking at cross purposes.

whatever happens US will get a tad bit closer to Putin's Russia, at least in the eary Trump presidency if not its entirety.

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limanika
#1470 Posted : Wednesday, January 11, 2017 5:43:44 PM
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Joined: 9/21/2011
Posts: 2,032
Ngalaka wrote:
@limanika & @AlphDoti seem to be talking at cross purposes.

whatever happens US will get a tad bit closer to Putin's Russia, at least in the eary Trump presidency if not its entirety.


ION, theres talk of compromising daussier... It makes some sence why Trump won't dare contradict Russia or Putin in public..its nothing about new world order...but could lead to it .... If not checked...Western capitals and some operatives would rather engineer an impeachment if the nonsense continues to some levels...
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