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Rank: Member Joined: 6/21/2010 Posts: 345 Location: easto
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hardwood wrote: Now that is one very wise woman. She has moved on and is doing what is best for her "new family". Good that they secretly moved the girl to a new school to cut off that school fees link. "The biological" should read the writing on the wall.
The guy loves that daughter like nothing..Being him, he wont take it lying down..But there are serious lessons, in this issue "The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubts, while the stupid ones are full of confidence." ― Charles Bukowski
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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tnai9 wrote:AlphDoti wrote:From my many experience interacting with people, htis is waht I've learnt:
1. Those who make most noise and say biological father should stay away and stop interfering with that home are single men who have no idea what they are talking about
2. Those single people, who feel no empathy for the biological father will experience a unique challenge in their marriage in future too... It is said what goes around comes around. So let them wait for their test, not necessarily a baby from x but a test nonetheless
3. When they get married and realize how naive they were, they keep quiet and "disappear"
4. Those people who are never married before are so ignorant of so many things... they still live in their dreams Blood is very very thick..I feel for my guy ..I imagine the feeling that his daughter is 'out there' living and being assisted to do home work by a man who probably hates him, ..its depressing and really worrying... Choices have consequences. He deserves the agony and punishment.
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/17/2008 Posts: 489
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tnai9 wrote:hardwood wrote: Now that is one very wise woman. She has moved on and is doing what is best for her "new family". Good that they secretly moved the girl to a new school to cut off that school fees link. "The biological" should read the writing on the wall.
The guy loves that daughter like nothing..Being him, he wont take it lying down..But there are serious lessons, in this issue That's not love.He is just on an ego trip and ought to do what is the best interests of the child at that age and social stability is the most paramount. There's more to upbringing than kulipa kalo.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/25/2012 Posts: 1,826
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gk wrote:tnai9 wrote:hardwood wrote: Now that is one very wise woman. She has moved on and is doing what is best for her "new family". Good that they secretly moved the girl to a new school to cut off that school fees link. "The biological" should read the writing on the wall.
The guy loves that daughter like nothing..Being him, he wont take it lying down..But there are serious lessons, in this issue That's not love.He is just on an ego trip and ought to do what is the best interests of the child at that age and social stability is the most paramount. There's more to upbringing than kulipa kalo. perfect, hata this mambo ya visiting sijui where its coming from if the step father is treating the girl as his own, the biological guy should be mature enough and let the girl grow up in peace, imagine the confusion the girl goes through in school having to explain the 2 fathers scenario. The biological guy anatia finyu to break the other family
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/8/2013 Posts: 4,068 Location: At Large.
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This biological father is up to no good.He wants to distabilize this new family. I imagine he has issues with his new wife and probably kids.I imagine they do not match up to his ex both wife and kids and he wants an association with the ex. Soon he will "omba" the lady for old time sake. Let him send the fees if he feels he must and he can reconnect with the girl when she is 18.For now akae kando. Love is beautiful and so are those who share it.With Love, Marriage is an amazing event in ones life time, the foundation of joy, happiness and success.
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Rank: Member Joined: 6/21/2010 Posts: 345 Location: easto
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gk wrote: That's not love.He is just on an ego trip and ought to do what is the best interests of the child at that age and social stability is the most paramount. There's more to upbringing than kulipa kalo.
Why do courts award access/visitation rights, joint custody etc? "The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubts, while the stupid ones are full of confidence." ― Charles Bukowski
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Rank: Member Joined: 6/21/2010 Posts: 345 Location: easto
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Bigchick wrote:This biological father is up to no good.He wants to distabilize this new family.
I imagine he has issues with his new wife and probably kids.I imagine they do not match up to his ex both wife and kids and he wants an association with the ex.
Soon he will "omba" the lady for old time sake.
Let him send the fees if he feels he must and he can reconnect with the girl when she is 18.For now akae kando. My colleague has been married think for close to nine yrs and I know they are (look)happy, good careers(both graduates, hubby paid a bit well by Kenyan stds), think they are a bit comfortable. The X is a diploma holder stays where rent is like half his X boyfy's. Donno what his hubby does. So the above may not be true. Think the guy just wants his daughter Of course am using rent as a yard-stick here which may not be 100% right..but is a pointer "The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubts, while the stupid ones are full of confidence." ― Charles Bukowski
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/1/2009 Posts: 2,436
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What is in the best interest of the children? Childrens' rights. That is what is most impt. and that is what would guide the Court's decision were this matter to follow the legal channel. And not just one child, but also all the other children of both Bulls' homes.
So what is best for them?
Let's begin with the child at the heart of this imbroglio.
Once a previously unmarried woman marries, the law automatically assumes the step dad has acquired parental responsibility over the kid, meaning the law recognises the kid as the man's legal dependant and his responsibility to cater for the physical, educational and emotional well-being of that kid. In fact were the step dad to also separate with this woman,the law provides that the step dad can be sued for child support if he ceases providing for the kid's sch fees, maintenance and medical needs!
But what about the biological dad? By virtue of his biological connection he has natural parental responsibility, as opposed to acquired (in the case of the step dad),responsibility for the his kid.
The question then must arise: Does the woman getting married therefore strip the biological dad of his parental responsibilities to the kid? I stand to be COLLected but yes, as full parental responsibility now shifts to the step dad in raising his daughter as he deems best.
Court would deem the best environment would be within the family set up which the biological man cannot offer,and which the step dad is providing. And so kid would go to new family set up, thereby denying biological dad custody of his little ka daddy/ ka mummy.
So together with the kid's mom they would be compelled have to make visitation arrangements for biological dad to be meeting with his kid. Plus these arrangements have to be in such a way that they don't interfere with both Bull's families (read not interfere with kid's siblings and step siblings). In this way all kids are expected to live well within their respective families, with the kid occasionally meeting his biological dad.
Should the biological father feel his daughter is not being adequately taken care of, he can file suit at the Family Court, with evidence, showing why he should instead be granted custody.
Sorry but family courts were really made for, nor favor men. They are instead good for getting cash out of your men's pockets to pay for the estranged mother (your ex) to take your kid for what she calls 'holidays' yet the farthest holiday you went with her was taking her shags.
My 2 pre-Matiang'i legal cents.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/25/2012 Posts: 1,826
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interesting points @Intelligentsia, now would the court consider more money better for the kid, or would other social considerations take precedence, what I take from the scenario is that the biological dad has more money.
if we were to flip it, such that the biological dad is poor and does not want his kid attending high end school, or indulging in pizza and buggers instead he wants his kid to tafuna githeri, in a nice locl public school.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,937
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@Intelligentsia, nice piece though some rights cannot be take away provided the laid down guidelines are followed by the biological father e.g. visitation, basic support, treatment, na kadhalika!!!! In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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