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sitaki.kujulikana
#91 Posted : Tuesday, January 10, 2017 1:19:20 PM
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PeterReborn
#92 Posted : Tuesday, January 10, 2017 1:20:31 PM
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hardwood wrote:
PeterReborn wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:
hardwood wrote:
Let those doctors who dont want to work for govt quit. Let them go into private practice and earn that 1m they are demanding. A starting salary of about 200k offered by govt is good by any standard, now that many docs work in smaller towns where the cost of living is low.




Can see Dennis itumbi has sent the 527 bob.

When are the doctors from India and Cuba coming ?


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Mpaka za kutoa?


Seriously how can we be paying each doctor 1m per month?

How much are you paying the useless MPIGS?
Consistency is better than intensity
hardwood
#93 Posted : Tuesday, January 10, 2017 1:42:37 PM
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Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
PeterReborn wrote:
hardwood wrote:
PeterReborn wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:
hardwood wrote:
Let those doctors who dont want to work for govt quit. Let them go into private practice and earn that 1m they are demanding. A starting salary of about 200k offered by govt is good by any standard, now that many docs work in smaller towns where the cost of living is low.




Can see Dennis itumbi has sent the 527 bob.

When are the doctors from India and Cuba coming ?


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Mpaka za kutoa?


Seriously how can we be paying each doctor 1m per month?

How much are you paying the useless MPIGS?


So you are suggesting that "wanjiku" should pay all govt workers 1m each pm?
Swenani
#94 Posted : Tuesday, January 10, 2017 1:47:21 PM
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Posts: 13,237
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hardwood wrote:
PeterReborn wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:
hardwood wrote:
Let those doctors who dont want to work for govt quit. Let them go into private practice and earn that 1m they are demanding. A starting salary of about 200k offered by govt is good by any standard, now that many docs work in smaller towns where the cost of living is low.




Can see Dennis itumbi has sent the 527 bob.

When are the doctors from India and Cuba coming ?


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Mpaka za kutoa?


Seriously how can we be paying each doctor 1m per month?


How are we not paying our politicians over 1m+ per month?
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
Swenani
#95 Posted : Tuesday, January 10, 2017 1:49:07 PM
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hardwood wrote:
PeterReborn wrote:
hardwood wrote:
PeterReborn wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:
hardwood wrote:
Let those doctors who dont want to work for govt quit. Let them go into private practice and earn that 1m they are demanding. A starting salary of about 200k offered by govt is good by any standard, now that many docs work in smaller towns where the cost of living is low.




Can see Dennis itumbi has sent the 527 bob.

When are the doctors from India and Cuba coming ?


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Mpaka za kutoa?


Seriously how can we be paying each doctor 1m per month?

How much are you paying the useless MPIGS?


So you are suggesting that "wanjiku" should pay all govt workers 1m each pm?


So you're suggesting that "Wainjiku" should only pay mpigs 1m?
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
hardwood
#96 Posted : Tuesday, January 10, 2017 1:57:55 PM
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Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
Swenani wrote:
hardwood wrote:
PeterReborn wrote:
hardwood wrote:
PeterReborn wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:
hardwood wrote:
Let those doctors who dont want to work for govt quit. Let them go into private practice and earn that 1m they are demanding. A starting salary of about 200k offered by govt is good by any standard, now that many docs work in smaller towns where the cost of living is low.




Can see Dennis itumbi has sent the 527 bob.

When are the doctors from India and Cuba coming ?


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Mpaka za kutoa?


Seriously how can we be paying each doctor 1m per month?

How much are you paying the useless MPIGS?


So you are suggesting that "wanjiku" should pay all govt workers 1m each pm?


So you're suggesting that "Wainjiku" should only pay mpigs 1m?


No. I am suggesting that wanjiko who lives on a-dollar-a-day amechoka and all salaries should be reasonable, even hiyo ya mpigs should be reduced.

Swenani
#97 Posted : Tuesday, January 10, 2017 2:04:11 PM
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Posts: 13,237
Location: Vacuum
hardwood wrote:
Swenani wrote:
hardwood wrote:
PeterReborn wrote:
hardwood wrote:
PeterReborn wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:
hardwood wrote:
Let those doctors who dont want to work for govt quit. Let them go into private practice and earn that 1m they are demanding. A starting salary of about 200k offered by govt is good by any standard, now that many docs work in smaller towns where the cost of living is low.



Can see Dennis itumbi has sent the 527 bob.

When are the doctors from India and Cuba coming ?


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Mpaka za kutoa?


Seriously how can we be paying each doctor 1m per month?

How much are you paying the useless MPIGS?


So you are suggesting that "wanjiku" should pay all govt workers 1m each pm?


So you're suggesting that "Wainjiku" should only pay mpigs 1m?


No. I am suggesting that wanjiko who lives on a-dollar-a-day amechoka and all salaries should be reasonable, even hiyo ya mpigs should be reduced.



In my view,1million and 150K for doctors and politicians respectively are reasonable pay
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
muganda
#98 Posted : Tuesday, January 10, 2017 3:02:01 PM
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Posts: 3,907
Swenani wrote:
hardwood wrote:

No. I am suggesting that wanjiko who lives on a-dollar-a-day amechoka and all salaries should be reasonable, even hiyo ya mpigs should be reduced.



In my view,1million and 150K for doctors and politicians respectively are reasonable pay


@Swenani, you're onto something. In Kenya, MCA's (let alone MPs) earn more than doctors. A few examples elsewhere...

USA approx average yearly pay
Family Doctor: $195,000
Representative lower/upper: $174,000
Teacher: $57,000

Switzerland approx average annual pay
Family doctor: $121,000
MP: $64,000
Teacher: $68,000


KulaRaha
#99 Posted : Tuesday, January 10, 2017 3:08:22 PM
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How much is hardwood paid? More or less than a Doctor? Is he paid from tax money?
Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
hardwood
#100 Posted : Tuesday, January 10, 2017 3:20:05 PM
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KulaRaha wrote:
How much is hardwood paid? More or less than a Doctor? Is he paid from tax money?


In my view the 200k offered by govt is ok for a junior doctor. BTW that amount is nearly what the junior doctor's professor at medical school is earning.
aemathenge
#101 Posted : Tuesday, January 10, 2017 3:29:29 PM
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Location: Kerugoya
hardwood wrote:
In my view the 200k offered by govt is ok for a junior doctor. BTW that amount is nearly the junior doctor's professor at medical school is earning.

They go on strike, the professors, on Monday, I gather.

You should hand in your quotation to Itumbi for handling that strike too immediately.
KulaRaha
#102 Posted : Tuesday, January 10, 2017 3:37:30 PM
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aemathenge wrote:
hardwood wrote:
In my view the 200k offered by govt is ok for a junior doctor. BTW that amount is nearly the junior doctor's professor at medical school is earning.

They go on strike, the professors, on Monday, I gather.

You should hand in your quotation to Itumbi for handling that strike too immediately.


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Given all the crises GoK is causing/handling, Hardwood should also ask for a pay-hike or go on strike too.

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
sitaki.kujulikana
#103 Posted : Tuesday, January 10, 2017 4:14:10 PM
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Posts: 1,826
muganda wrote:
Swenani wrote:
hardwood wrote:

No. I am suggesting that wanjiko who lives on a-dollar-a-day amechoka and all salaries should be reasonable, even hiyo ya mpigs should be reduced.



In my view,1million and 150K for doctors and politicians respectively are reasonable pay


@Swenani, you're onto something. In Kenya, MCA's (let alone MPs) earn more than doctors. A few examples elsewhere...

USA approx average yearly pay
Family Doctor: $195,000
Representative lower/upper: $174,000
Teacher: $57,000

Switzerland approx average annual pay
Family doctor: $121,000
MP: $64,000
Teacher: $68,000



in kenya the politicians are highly paid, but on average docs are paid 2 or 3 times a teacher, in kenya teachers are paid on average around 40-50k so a doctor being paid 150-200k is even better than the European doctors and just about the same as the doc wa akina kiash
quicksand
#104 Posted : Tuesday, January 10, 2017 4:39:15 PM
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hardwood wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
How much is hardwood paid? More or less than a Doctor? Is he paid from tax money?


In my view the 200k offered by govt is ok for a junior doctor. BTW that amount is nearly what the junior doctor's professor at medical school is earning.


An administration which has looted 5 billion cannot turn around and say it does not have money to and expect the populace to side with it. 5 Billion! Into the pockets of may be 6 or 7 jamaas ....if the doctors asked 5 million per month it would still look reasonable against the backdrop of this massive theft. Unbelievable. The nerve of this Uhuru Kenyatta guy.... Wakae ngumu.
Angelica _ann
#105 Posted : Tuesday, January 10, 2017 4:43:40 PM
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quicksand wrote:
hardwood wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
How much is hardwood paid? More or less than a Doctor? Is he paid from tax money?


In my view the 200k offered by govt is ok for a junior doctor. BTW that amount is nearly what the junior doctor's professor at medical school is earning.


An administration which has looted 5 billion cannot turn around and say it does not have money to and expect the populace to side with it. 5 Billion! Into the pockets of may be 6 or 7 jamaas ....if the doctors asked 5 million per month it would still look reasonable against the backdrop of this massive theft. Unbelievable. The nerve of this Uhuru Kenyatta guy.... Wakae ngumu.

You cannot just give in to Doctors because you have 5billion. You must look at the ripple effect that will do the economy including demands from other sectors, sustainability in the long run and also factor in future increments and awards plus how the current award will impact employing more Doctors!!!!!
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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