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FRM2011 wrote:Bigchick wrote:Why are opposition leaders not very vocal on this strike?
Meanwhile just our Drs go for greener pastures out there......can 254 be greener pastures for Drs from other countries?
Can we invite them to work in our hospitals?Have seen a few from Burundi and India working in private hospitals and they seem ok with a Salo of circa 200k. Doctors have been sharing heart-rending stories about their working envt. Trust me its not about money. Working for GoK is the closest one can get to hell. And don't even start that thing of health being devolved. Imagine a theatre with no running water and the docs have put a plastic jerrican with a hole at the bottom. Imagine a young doctor whose house girl walks out on her and she receives an emergency call. Looks at the expectant mother who requires emergency CS, and gets her young baby on her back and walks into theatre. Or the young guy posted in mandera, gets an accident at Mwingi, taken to knh as an emergency, not attended after two hours, family takes him to avenue where he accumulates 0.6M in bills with no insurance cover. After discharge the dms tells him to report back to his work station. The fact that he needs physiotherapy for two years is not the govt's problem. So no, there is no one willing to run to hell. What would they be running away from ? sp the issue is not 300% payrise but the working environment. Can that be changed overnight?Can it be worked on as they continue treating us?Ama ciaigana ni ciaigana? Love is beautiful and so are those who share it.With Love, Marriage is an amazing event in ones life time, the foundation of joy, happiness and success.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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FRM2011 wrote:Bigchick wrote:Why are opposition leaders not very vocal on this strike?
Meanwhile just our Drs go for greener pastures out there......can 254 be greener pastures for Drs from other countries?
Can we invite them to work in our hospitals?Have seen a few from Burundi and India working in private hospitals and they seem ok with a Salo of circa 200k. Doctors have been sharing heart-rending stories about their working envt. Trust me its not about money. Working for GoK is the closest one can get to hell. And don't even start that thing of health being devolved. Imagine a theatre with no running water and the docs have put a plastic jerrican with a hole at the bottom. Imagine a young doctor whose house girl walks out on her and she receives an emergency call. Looks at the expectant mother who requires emergency CS, and gets her young baby on her back and walks into theatre. Or the young guy posted in mandera, gets an accident at Mwingi, taken to knh as an emergency, not attended after two hours, family takes him to avenue where he accumulates 0.6M in bills with no insurance cover. After discharge the dms tells him to report back to his work station. The fact that he needs physiotherapy for two years is not the govt's problem. So no, there is no one willing to run to hell. What would they be running away from ? Hakuna hospitali Kitui Machakos? Even private? Moral of the story, get insurance coverage "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/26/2007 Posts: 6,514
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Our resident idiots have spoken. Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/25/2012 Posts: 1,826
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KulaRaha wrote:Our resident idiots have spoken.
Seems fair, ukitaka kazi una apply, so that latter you won't start complaining sijui hardship, sijui facilities. It's good since it will be up to the counties to go out of their ways to attract the docs, na hi mambo ya herd mentality for the docs iishe.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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Bigchick wrote:Why are opposition leaders not very vocal on this strike?
Meanwhile just our Drs go for greener pastures out there......can 254 be greener pastures for Drs from other countries?
Can we invite them to work in our hospitals?Have seen a few from Burundi and India working in private hospitals and they seem ok with a Salo of circa 200k. Cord only cares about votes. Not what is right or wrong. Doctors have no votes compared to the affected citizens so they don't care about doctors. Matiang'i has no votes, that's why they side with KNUT and in extension parents of students. i.am.back!!!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,331 Location: Masada
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sitaki.kujulikana wrote:KulaRaha wrote:Our resident idiots have spoken.
Seems fair, ukitaka kazi una apply, so that latter you won't start complaining sijui hardship, sijui facilities. It's good since it will be up to the counties to go out of their ways to attract the docs, na hi mambo ya herd mentality for the docs iishe. Yenyewe, why must they be posted by gava? Even attachos wanatafutiwa. Kwani hao wanakaa aje special? Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/26/2007 Posts: 6,514
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Direct posting ensures that doctors take jobs in not so attractive locations. If its apply, who will apply to work in Mandera etc? Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/15/2006 Posts: 3,907
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An unbiased reading of this CBA between government and KMPDU of June 2013, does indeed show: https://files.acrobat.com/a/prev...e-4ace-907d-72ffdb4c976a1. as with most strikes, primary issues began with Union Rights and checkoff from members 2. no agreement was reached on some items, with them being enclosed showing different positions (job groups, residency, internship) 3. salary & allowance proposals (~300%) suspended until such time when SRC will provide clear guidelines Can government continue to train/pay/develop a worker class who they can't manage? Can doctors work with civil servants who have made political pursuits (governors, MPs, MCAs, etc) the only worthy ones in Kenya? If both sides have a case, how does everyone get out of this muddle?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/15/2006 Posts: 3,907
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HOT IN THE KITCHEN! ARCHIVE
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/26/2007 Posts: 6,514
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Let those doctors who dont want to work for govt quit. Let them go into private practice and earn that 1m they are demanding. A starting salary of about 200k offered by govt is good by any standard, now that many docs work in smaller towns where the cost of living is low.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/5/2010 Posts: 2,459
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hardwood wrote:Let those doctors who dont want to work for govt quit. Let them go into private practice and earn that 1m they are demanding. A starting salary of about 200k offered by govt is good by any standard, now that many docs work in smaller towns where the cost of living is low. Can see Dennis itumbi has sent the 527 bob. When are the doctors from India and Cuba coming ?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/26/2007 Posts: 6,514
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/3/2014 Posts: 1,063
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Seriously how can we be paying each doctor 1m per month?
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