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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/25/2012 Posts: 1,826
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FRM2011 wrote:So, Mama mboga's fingerprint will not be recognised by the EVID but the BVR will not have a problem registering her ?
is it that we don't want to reason ama ni nini, voting takes one day registration has several days, if a fault happens you can always come the next day. all this comparisons of sijui marking kcse being digital, sijui citizen using satellite phones to communicate is just crazy. you have a process that takes around 8 hours, with many people taking part, you have very little room for maneuver, and its not like we have electronic voting, that is linked to those bvr identification gadgets, or do we.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/29/2008 Posts: 1,566
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Tuache side-shows. A contigency plan is crucial. All parties and observors should be represented at the pollinng/counting stations. Won't the back up data be derived from the electronic data. wont it be be verifiable! what's all this hullabaloo! Isuni yilu yi maa me muyo - ni Mbisuu
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/5/2010 Posts: 2,459
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sitaki.kujulikana wrote:FRM2011 wrote:So, Mama mboga's fingerprint will not be recognised by the EVID but the BVR will not have a problem registering her ?
is it that we don't want to reason ama ni nini, voting takes one day registration has several days, if a fault happens you can always come the next day. all this comparisons of sijui marking kcse being digital, sijui citizen using satellite phones to communicate is just crazy. you have a process that takes around 8 hours, with many people taking part, you have very little room for maneuver, and its not like we have electronic voting, that is linked to those bvr identification gadgets, or do we. The data for a specific polling station can be hosted locally. BTW, nobody really cares so much about transmission, the trick is in voter identification. Please explain in simple English, why will the EVID fail ? It doesn't require any 3G connectivity. But not that stupid Mama mboga's crap. Once the votes are tallied, the presiding officer is obligated by law to pin them at the station. From there it will be impossible to cook the figures.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/25/2012 Posts: 1,826
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FRM2011 wrote:sitaki.kujulikana wrote:FRM2011 wrote:So, Mama mboga's fingerprint will not be recognised by the EVID but the BVR will not have a problem registering her ?
is it that we don't want to reason ama ni nini, voting takes one day registration has several days, if a fault happens you can always come the next day. all this comparisons of sijui marking kcse being digital, sijui citizen using satellite phones to communicate is just crazy. you have a process that takes around 8 hours, with many people taking part, you have very little room for maneuver, and its not like we have electronic voting, that is linked to those bvr identification gadgets, or do we. The data for a specific polling station can be hosted locally. BTW, nobody really cares so much about transmission, the trick is in voter identification. Please explain in simple English, why will the EVID fail ? It doesn't require any 3G connectivity. But not that stupid Mama mboga's crap. Once the votes are tallied, the presiding officer is obligated by law to pin them at the station. From there it will be impossible to cook the figures. in your understanding, what is the purpose of a backup, or say why do you use insurance. back to your query, why the 3G point, never knew its only 3G that can fail  but honestly, sticking to the bio-metric machines those are electronic gadgets, and of course they can fail, what makes the exercise sensitive is the time frame involved, hakuna the possibility of asking guys to come back latter. personally I think the discussion should be on a strict well defined framework describing when the manual process can come in. Otherwise this issue of dismissing a backup process is just recipe for disaster.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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sitaki.kujulikana wrote:FRM2011 wrote:sitaki.kujulikana wrote:FRM2011 wrote:So, Mama mboga's fingerprint will not be recognised by the EVID but the BVR will not have a problem registering her ?
is it that we don't want to reason ama ni nini, voting takes one day registration has several days, if a fault happens you can always come the next day. all this comparisons of sijui marking kcse being digital, sijui citizen using satellite phones to communicate is just crazy. you have a process that takes around 8 hours, with many people taking part, you have very little room for maneuver, and its not like we have electronic voting, that is linked to those bvr identification gadgets, or do we. The data for a specific polling station can be hosted locally. BTW, nobody really cares so much about transmission, the trick is in voter identification. Please explain in simple English, why will the EVID fail ? It doesn't require any 3G connectivity. But not that stupid Mama mboga's crap. Once the votes are tallied, the presiding officer is obligated by law to pin them at the station. From there it will be impossible to cook the figures. in your understanding, what is the purpose of a backup, or say why do you use insurance. back to your query, why the 3G point, never knew its only 3G that can fail but honestly, sticking to the bio-metric machines those are electronic gadgets, and of course they can fail, what makes the exercise sensitive is the time frame involved, hakuna the possibility of asking guys to come back latter. personally I think the discussion should be on a strict well defined framework describing when the manual process can come in. Otherwise this issue of dismissing a backup process is just recipe for disaster. We all saw how those gadgets failed in 2013. That experience alone shows the importance of having a manual back up.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/3/2008 Posts: 4,058 Location: Gwitu
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This entire saga is akin to a dog chasing its tail. The real issue is about lack of trust in IEBC and other institutions. I would rather have a few dead voters voting than the electronic system collapsing leaving the country at crossroad. RAO says we wait if the system collapses, just for how long? We want thae voting charade to end in one day so that we can back to our business. Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/8/2008 Posts: 1,575
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kaka2za wrote:This entire saga is akin to a dog chasing its tail.
The real issue is about lack of trust in IEBC and other institutions.
I would rather have a few dead voters voting than the electronic system collapsing leaving the country at crossroad.
RAO says we wait if the system collapses, just for how long? We want thae voting charade to end in one day so that we can back to our business. A 'friend' went to a 'kenchic' and ordered her favourite dish of chicken wing and chips. the sizzling dish was promptly delivered. She partook of the meal with gusto to the end, whipped out her phone, and according to her with same zeal to withdraw funds from 'mkesho' and pay the bill. Alas, "M-Kesho is Unable to process transaction" A thin sweat developed on her brow, eyes trained on the ipod screen trying to decipher the message and its effect on the waiter. As I write this, am ksh 350 down, thanks to a backup plan. Whose side are you on? I care!
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Rank: Chief Joined: 5/9/2007 Posts: 13,095
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By the way, how would the Biometric identification prevent people from voting several times? The manual register is usually cancelled, how does the Biometric record that I have already passed and thus if I come again I will be arrested? Don't tell me about the ink, that can always be 'arranged'
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/25/2012 Posts: 1,826
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washiku wrote:By the way, how would the Biometric identification prevent people from voting several times? The manual register is usually cancelled, how does the Biometric record that I have already passed and thus if I come again I will be arrested? Don't tell me about the ink, that can always be 'arranged' I think the importance of the bio metric is that its better at determining a voter actually visited the polling station, for the manual list the guys at the station can just cross out the names and it would be hard to prove that those voters did not come to the station.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 8/16/2011 Posts: 2,389
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From beginning Cord seems childish and defeated. Their only option is to cry songs of war!!!!
They(Cord) put fingers in their asses when they started recruiting foreigners to tender for technology behind Govt and IEBC so that the same technology could be manipulated in their favour.
Could you imagine a lawyer like Orengo walking in with foreigners in a meeting for commissioners?
He was asked who are these?
Opposition has no chance in 2017 as majority seem going for Uhuruto they know than what we do not know.
Mudavadi will again screw Raila and Kalonzo. He will frighten Wiper and FordKenya
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