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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/20/2011 Posts: 1,822 Location: Nakuru
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kaka2za wrote:Fyatu wrote:Fyatu wrote:kaka2za wrote:Kusadikika wrote:I like. If he plays his cards well and consolidates the home base behind him he is going to be president in 2022. He and UK are very close and UK more than anyone else will decide who becomes president in 2022. UK had to do the same. UK did not become president in 2013, he became president when Michuki declared, "Mtu yeyote ambaye anapenda Wakikuyu afuate Uhuru, Uhuru wa Kenyatta ndiye atakuwa kiongozi ya Wakikuyu" This was in 2010. No,it was Moreno not Michuki.The case was the glue that brought the erstwhile rivals together. UK will be a lame duck if re-elected and will not influence 2022 polls. How can one be a lame duck when he is the incumbent as well as the de facto "Igwe" of 17.15% of the total population of Kenya minus the Meru, Embu, Mbeere and Others?...... LINK Limited influence. Baks couldn't even convince Othaya guys to vote for his preferred candidate for area MP Wake me up in 2022 Dumb money becomes dumb only when it listens to smart money
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Eh! I'm amazed by this spokesperson business. But even more amazing is wazuan acceptance of it.
But it should be noted that the legitimacy of this position is 'scientifically guaranteed'.
Science is really turning to be a fearsome monster!
Where I'm hiding I call womb. But this horror is too much. Where will I run to?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/22/2008 Posts: 2,723
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kaka2za wrote:Fyatu wrote:Fyatu wrote:kaka2za wrote:Kusadikika wrote:I like. If he plays his cards well and consolidates the home base behind him he is going to be president in 2022. He and UK are very close and UK more than anyone else will decide who becomes president in 2022. UK had to do the same. UK did not become president in 2013, he became president when Michuki declared, "Mtu yeyote ambaye anapenda Wakikuyu afuate Uhuru, Uhuru wa Kenyatta ndiye atakuwa kiongozi ya Wakikuyu" This was in 2010. No,it was Moreno not Michuki.The case was the glue that brought the erstwhile rivals together. UK will be a lame duck if re-elected and will not influence 2022 polls. How can one be a lame duck when he is the incumbent as well as the de facto "Igwe" of 17.15% of the total population of Kenya minus the Meru, Embu, Mbeere and Others?...... LINK Limited influence. Baks couldn't even convince Othaya guys to vote for his preferred candidate for area MP UK is not Baks. UK and Raila are exactly alike. They are first home kings and national leaders second. People forget very quickly but the political growing up of UK took place after he failed to capture the presidency in 2002. He sided with Raila in 2005 to defeat the Banana side of the constitution referendum and then did a quick about turn to get the Mountaineers behind Baks in 2007. In 2007 and throughout the second Baks term he was the power behind the throne by consolidating the Mountaineers behind him and this was not done by being nice. He was actually very dictatorial, In Central the message was get behind us or you will be swept out. Just google a video titled "Uhuru Muranga Rally" and see UK in his true colors. The reality of Kenyan politics is that there is no such thing as a National leader without a home base and for good or for ill home base always means tribal chief. The presidency is only 2 terms but tribal kingship can last much longer so do not count UKs influence out of the 2022 polls.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/20/2011 Posts: 1,822 Location: Nakuru
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Kusadikika wrote:kaka2za wrote:Fyatu wrote:Fyatu wrote:kaka2za wrote:Kusadikika wrote:I like. If he plays his cards well and consolidates the home base behind him he is going to be president in 2022. He and UK are very close and UK more than anyone else will decide who becomes president in 2022. UK had to do the same. UK did not become president in 2013, he became president when Michuki declared, "Mtu yeyote ambaye anapenda Wakikuyu afuate Uhuru, Uhuru wa Kenyatta ndiye atakuwa kiongozi ya Wakikuyu" This was in 2010. No,it was Moreno not Michuki.The case was the glue that brought the erstwhile rivals together. UK will be a lame duck if re-elected and will not influence 2022 polls. How can one be a lame duck when he is the incumbent as well as the de facto "Igwe" of 17.15% of the total population of Kenya minus the Meru, Embu, Mbeere and Others?...... LINK Limited influence. Baks couldn't even convince Othaya guys to vote for his preferred candidate for area MP UK is not Baks. UK and Raila are exactly alike. They are first home kings and national leaders second. People forget very quickly but the political growing up of UK took place after he failed to capture the presidency in 2002. He sided with Raila in 2005 to defeat the Banana side of the constitution referendum and then did a quick about turn to get the Mountaineers behind Baks in 2007. In 2007 and throughout the second Baks term he was the power behind the throne by consolidating the Mountaineers behind him and this was not done by being nice. He was actually very dictatorial, In Central the message was get behind us or you will be swept out. Just google a video titled "Uhuru Muranga Rally" and see UK in his true colors. The reality of Kenyan politics is that there is no such thing as a National leader without a home base and for good or for ill home base always means tribal chief. The presidency is only 2 terms but tribal kingship can last much longer so do not count UKs influence out of the 2022 polls. Bollocks of a King...A true son of Jomo. LINKDumb money becomes dumb only when it listens to smart money
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/5/2010 Posts: 2,459
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Kusadikika wrote:I like. If he plays his cards well and consolidates the home base behind him he is going to be president in 2022. He and UK are very close and UK more than anyone else will decide who becomes president in 2022. UK had to do the same. UK did not become president in 2013, he became president when Michuki declared, "Mtu yeyote ambaye anapenda Wakikuyu afuate Uhuru, Uhuru wa Kenyatta ndiye atakuwa kiongozi ya Wakikuyu" This was in 2010. UMK can't get you elected even as an MCA in 2022.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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Just wondering about Atworry. Is he Secretary General for life? He has been in that position ever since I can remember, he needs to give it up now that he's 'the' Luhya politician.
BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi
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2012 wrote:Just wondering about Atworry. Is he Secretary General for life? He has been in that position ever since I can remember, he needs to give it up now that he's 'the' Luhya politician. Brother atwoli All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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If there's 'rigging' of elections, then this is the ultimate act of rigging. Going by this event alone, it's not difficult to see Rao losing by a landslide.
By 2022 I expect the constitution to have been changed substantially to allow for third terms or even lifetime leadership.
This is a disappointing story, but if there's to be any serious political thought, now is the time to build its foundations.
Karua, Kenneth, Mdvd, Klnzo, Dida, are all lost. Please don't even mention Matiang'i.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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tycho wrote:If there's 'rigging' of elections, then this is the ultimate act of rigging. Going by this event alone, it's not difficult to see Rao losing by a landslide.
By 2022 I expect the constitution to have been changed substantially to allow for third terms or even lifetime leadership.
This is a disappointing story, but if there's to be any serious political thought, now is the time to build its foundations.
Karua, Kenneth, Mdvd, Klnzo, Dida, are all lost. Please don't even mention Matiang'i. Baba is losing the next elections if he decides to run,there's no need to rig him out. He has no convincing agenda. He needs to back someone else this time round if he wants power but we all know that whomever he backs will play him after.
BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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2012 wrote:tycho wrote:If there's 'rigging' of elections, then this is the ultimate act of rigging. Going by this event alone, it's not difficult to see Rao losing by a landslide.
By 2022 I expect the constitution to have been changed substantially to allow for third terms or even lifetime leadership.
This is a disappointing story, but if there's to be any serious political thought, now is the time to build its foundations.
Karua, Kenneth, Mdvd, Klnzo, Dida, are all lost. Please don't even mention Matiang'i. Baba is losing the next elections if he decides to run,there's no need to rig him out. He has no convincing agenda. He needs to back someone else this time round if he wants power but we all know that whomever he backs will play him after. But this spokesperson story is a clear rig. It's an imposition of a certain kind of order. By who? Even this argument that Baba needs to back someone is part of this rig. It's so clear how it may go. Whichever way he chooses, he loses. But isn't an election supposed to be fair? In this case, could we declare a systemic bias? Who determines whether an election is fair? Who do they represent? In all these things, I fear Wanjiku has absolutely no say. Wanjiku is a marionette. She's been rigged out of existence.
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