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IEBC showdown today!!!!!!!!
kaka2za
#21 Posted : Tuesday, December 20, 2016 11:54:43 AM
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I listened to Jakoyo and Mutula junior this morning and they were talking about electronic voting. If this is the case, why are we printing ballot papers?
My understanding is that only voter identification and results transmission will be electronic.
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Impunity
#22 Posted : Tuesday, December 20, 2016 12:11:02 PM
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hardwood wrote:
Impunity wrote:
95% of MPigs are no show as at 10am...speaker postponed the debate to a later time/date!

Wah!!!


Wamefika...



That @Millie's dress is not fit for the upcoming war...it would be difficult for @kuria to grab her vitus in that overflowing dress...angevaa much less clothing like she did last time!

Though I can see she is really willing to be done today.
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#23 Posted : Tuesday, December 20, 2016 12:18:13 PM
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The showdown begins, this speaker is sooooo useless. We are so lost as a country!!!!
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Fyatu
#24 Posted : Tuesday, December 20, 2016 12:30:48 PM
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Impunity wrote:
hardwood wrote:
Impunity wrote:
95% of MPigs are no show as at 10am...speaker postponed the debate to a later time/date!

Wah!!!


Wamefika...



That @Millie's dress is not fit for the upcoming war...it would be difficult for @kuria to grab her vitus in that overflowing dress...angevaa much less clothing like she did last time!

Though I can see she is really willing to be done today.


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Fyatu
#25 Posted : Tuesday, December 20, 2016 12:32:35 PM
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hardwood wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
The laws came from a negotiated process. I wonder why the amendments are being pushed by one side only.
Something stinks on this digital matter. For once, am giving Baba the benefit of doubt.


Even in your office, you have a fall back plan incase technology fails. Things do not come to a standstill just because the system is down.

Even when the ATM fails or your ATM card PIN doesn't work and thus you cannot be "identified and served digitally", the bank has a back up plan whereby you can walk into the bank and be identified "manually" with your ID and given your cash. That is all they are saying regarding this amendment. Voting or transmission of results should not stop just because the gadget battery went down, or the gadget hanged, or broke down or was even stolen, or fell from the table and hit the concrete floor and malfunctioned, or someone spilled his soda on the gadget and it went kapput. If in the US they did manual voting in some polling stations how do we expect to have a 100% digital election in our 3rd world country, a country where some areas dont have power or mobile phone coverage and some have issues with bandits, cattle rustlers and terrorists?



Ditto! You have summed it up very well.
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Njung'e
#26 Posted : Tuesday, December 20, 2016 12:39:52 PM
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IEBC has done another presentation to MPs from either side and it seems some cordiots are coming back to their senses.......and if they can't, i am thinking of a massive blackout that would last several days after elections. What would happen?smile Pray Pray
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kaka2za
#27 Posted : Tuesday, December 20, 2016 12:43:56 PM
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Fyatu wrote:
hardwood wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
The laws came from a negotiated process. I wonder why the amendments are being pushed by one side only.
Something stinks on this digital matter. For once, am giving Baba the benefit of doubt.


Even in your office, you have a fall back plan incase technology fails. Things do not come to a standstill just because the system is down.

Even when the ATM fails or your ATM card PIN doesn't work and thus you cannot be "identified and served digitally", the bank has a back up plan whereby you can walk into the bank and be identified "manually" with your ID and given your cash. That is all they are saying regarding this amendment. Voting or transmission of results should not stop just because the gadget battery went down, or the gadget hanged, or broke down or was even stolen, or fell from the table and hit the concrete floor and malfunctioned, or someone spilled his soda on the gadget and it went kapput. If in the US they did manual voting in some polling stations how do we expect to have a 100% digital election in our 3rd world country, a country where some areas dont have power or mobile phone coverage and some have issues with bandits, cattle rustlers and terrorists?



Ditto! You have summed it up very well.


Unfortunately it is not so simple. Why didn't Jubilee engage opposition in proposing the changes? Why the rush to recall parliament? Am 💯 % certain this is a sinister move disguised as a noble idea.
Come 2017, all systems in Tharaka Nithi will surely fail and we know how that will end.
Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
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hardwood
#28 Posted : Tuesday, December 20, 2016 12:58:47 PM
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kaka2za wrote:
Fyatu wrote:
hardwood wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
The laws came from a negotiated process. I wonder why the amendments are being pushed by one side only.
Something stinks on this digital matter. For once, am giving Baba the benefit of doubt.


Even in your office, you have a fall back plan incase technology fails. Things do not come to a standstill just because the system is down.

Even when the ATM fails or your ATM card PIN doesn't work and thus you cannot be "identified and served digitally", the bank has a back up plan whereby you can walk into the bank and be identified "manually" with your ID and given your cash. That is all they are saying regarding this amendment. Voting or transmission of results should not stop just because the gadget battery went down, or the gadget hanged, or broke down or was even stolen, or fell from the table and hit the concrete floor and malfunctioned, or someone spilled his soda on the gadget and it went kapput. If in the US they did manual voting in some polling stations how do we expect to have a 100% digital election in our 3rd world country, a country where some areas dont have power or mobile phone coverage and some have issues with bandits, cattle rustlers and terrorists?



Ditto! You have summed it up very well.


Unfortunately it is not so simple. Why didn't Jubilee engage opposition in proposing the changes? Why the rush to recall parliament? Am 💯 % certain this is a sinister move disguised as a noble idea.
Come 2017, all systems in Tharaka Nithi will surely fail and we know how that will end.


So are you saying that we go for a 100% digital platform without any fall back plan? Then impatient mobs will be rioting demanding release of election results, results which would not be in existence because some gadgets never identified voters or transmitted any results? Can you imagine the chaos?
Bigchick
#29 Posted : Tuesday, December 20, 2016 1:03:10 PM
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kaka2za wrote:
Fyatu wrote:
hardwood wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
The laws came from a negotiated process. I wonder why the amendments are being pushed by one side only.
Something stinks on this digital matter. For once, am giving Baba the benefit of doubt.


Even in your office, you have a fall back plan incase technology fails. Things do not come to a standstill just because the system is down.

Even when the ATM fails or your ATM card PIN doesn't work and thus you cannot be "identified and served digitally", the bank has a back up plan whereby you can walk into the bank and be identified "manually" with your ID and given your cash. That is all they are saying regarding this amendment. Voting or transmission of results should not stop just because the gadget battery went down, or the gadget hanged, or broke down or was even stolen, or fell from the table and hit the concrete floor and malfunctioned, or someone spilled his soda on the gadget and it went kapput. If in the US they did manual voting in some polling stations how do we expect to have a 100% digital election in our 3rd world country, a country where some areas dont have power or mobile phone coverage and some have issues with bandits, cattle rustlers and terrorists?



Ditto! You have summed it up very well.


Unfortunately it is not so simple. Why didn't Jubilee engage opposition in proposing the changes? Why the rush to recall parliament? Am 💯 % certain this is a sinister move disguised as a noble idea.
Come 2017, all systems in Tharaka Nithi will surely fail and we know how that will end.



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kaka2za
#30 Posted : Tuesday, December 20, 2016 1:08:18 PM
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hardwood wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
Fyatu wrote:
hardwood wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
The laws came from a negotiated process. I wonder why the amendments are being pushed by one side only.
Something stinks on this digital matter. For once, am giving Baba the benefit of doubt.


Even in your office, you have a fall back plan incase technology fails. Things do not come to a standstill just because the system is down.

Even when the ATM fails or your ATM card PIN doesn't work and thus you cannot be "identified and served digitally", the bank has a back up plan whereby you can walk into the bank and be identified "manually" with your ID and given your cash. That is all they are saying regarding this amendment. Voting or transmission of results should not stop just because the gadget battery went down, or the gadget hanged, or broke down or was even stolen, or fell from the table and hit the concrete floor and malfunctioned, or someone spilled his soda on the gadget and it went kapput. If in the US they did manual voting in some polling stations how do we expect to have a 100% digital election in our 3rd world country, a country where some areas dont have power or mobile phone coverage and some have issues with bandits, cattle rustlers and terrorists?



Ditto! You have summed it up very well.


Unfortunately it is not so simple. Why didn't Jubilee engage opposition in proposing the changes? Why the rush to recall parliament? Am 💯 % certain this is a sinister move disguised as a noble idea.
Come 2017, all systems in Tharaka Nithi will surely fail and we know how that will end.


So are you saying that we go for a 100% digital platform without any fall back plan? Then impatient mobs will be rioting demanding release of election results, results which would not be in existence because some gadgets never identified voters or transmitted any results? Can you imagine the chaos?


No No am not against the content of the bills but the process itself.
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