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US Elections, Hillary or Trump?
quicksand
#1421 Posted : Wednesday, December 14, 2016 11:20:21 AM
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hardwood wrote:
2012 wrote:
And now he's appointed Putin's friend to the second most powerful position, Secretary of State. I wonder if his Republican party will pass his nomination.


If the US and Russia can be bosom buddies and work together then that will be very good for the world. Just like they worked together in World War 2 to defeat Hitler and bring peace and prosperity to the world (or the way ouru and Luto came together to defeat huyo mtu wa vitendawili and bring peace and prosperity to Kenyasmile ). As friends, the US and Russia will now use their time and resources not arming themselves and spying on each other in a nuclear arms race, but by preaching and promoting world peace. They will work together to make the world safe and great again, by starting e.g. sorting the mess in the middle east where Russia has already helped Assad crush ISIS/rebels in aleppo, rebels who were being supported by Oboma and Hillarie.

http://edition.cnn.com/2...rnment-gains/index.html

https://www.theatlantic....split-on-russia/510317/


Only that Russia will try to co-opt America into backing China into a corner...basically merely switching suspicion, distrust and hostilities from one fearsome nuclear armed power to an even more fearsome nuclear armed power.
The US can squeeze Russia, it can't squeeze China.
And poor Republicans, the ones who voted Trump. Its a Pyrrhic victory, theirs will be a most rude awakening.
chemirocha
#1422 Posted : Wednesday, December 14, 2016 11:27:15 AM
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hardwood wrote:


If the US and Russia can be bosom buddies and work together then that will be very good for the world. Just like they worked together in World War 2 to defeat Hitler and bring peace and prosperity to the world (or the way ouru and Luto came together to defeat huyo mtu wa vitendawili and bring peace and prosperity to Kenyasmile ). As friends, the US and Russia will now use their time and resources not arming themselves and spying on each other in a nuclear arms race, but by preaching and promoting world peace. They will work together to make the world safe and great again, by starting e.g. sorting the mess in the middle east where Russia has already helped Assad crush ISIS/rebels in aleppo, rebels who were being supported by Oboma and Hillarie.

http://edition.cnn.com/2...rnment-gains/index.html


From a strategic point of view these two world powers are at opposite ends of the table.

The situation in Syria is a perfect example where Russia is protecting their regional interests by backing Assad while the United States is relying on anti-Assad militants and Kurds to fight Daesh/ ISIS. Naturally the regional powers Turkey, Iran, Saudi Arabia and the European Union also have their own interests in this conflict making a peaceful resolution extremely difficult.
harrydre
#1423 Posted : Thursday, December 15, 2016 11:25:46 AM
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kirudiwo!!
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masukuma
#1424 Posted : Thursday, December 15, 2016 1:07:21 PM
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harrydre wrote:

Kumbe other people meddling in your elections is painful - who knew? Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly (of choices and consequences)
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Anti_Burglar
#1425 Posted : Tuesday, December 20, 2016 9:33:33 AM
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If Democrat electors themselves were faithless and choose to cast and waste their votes on others apart from Hillary Clinton, it shows the quality of president she could have been - disaster!


This matter should now rest and those not satisfied with their president should just emigrate.
hardwood
#1426 Posted : Tuesday, December 20, 2016 11:51:59 AM
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Anti_Burglar wrote:


If Democrat electors themselves were faithless and choose to cast and waste their votes on others apart from Hillary Clinton, it shows the quality of president she could have been - disaster!


This matter should now rest and those not satisfied with their president should just emigrate.


Hehe found it funny that 4 electors refused to vote for Hillary.
hardwood
#1427 Posted : Tuesday, December 20, 2016 12:02:42 PM
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Seems Trump wants to work closely with Russia and isolate China. Trump seems to want to cut China to size and diminish its growing influence. I foresee very strained relations between US and China.

https://www.bloomberg.co...rs-options-to-retaliate




Anti_Burglar
#1428 Posted : Tuesday, December 20, 2016 12:27:46 PM
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hardwood wrote:
Anti_Burglar wrote:


If Democrat electors themselves were faithless and choose to cast and waste their votes on others apart from Hillary Clinton, it shows the quality of president she could have been - disaster!


This matter should now rest and those not satisfied with their president should just emigrate.


Hehe found it funny that 4 electors refused to vote for Hillary.





Ms. Faith Spotted Eagle, a native American, got the very first electoral vote ever in the history of the Electoral College. From a Democrat Elector!!!!! History indeed has been made. She did not even campaign for it so perhaps she could have won had she contested! lol. Power to her!!!!
chemirocha
#1429 Posted : Tuesday, December 20, 2016 12:29:36 PM
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hardwood wrote:
Seems Trump wants to work closely with Russia and isolate China. Trump seems to want to cut China to size and diminish its growing influence. I foresee very strained relations between US and China.

https://www.bloomberg.co...rs-options-to-retaliate






I doubt the Donald has the diplomatic skill to make any such deal work without upsetting NATO/ EU allies. He could end up getting played by both the Chinese and the Russians.
masukuma
#1430 Posted : Tuesday, December 20, 2016 12:44:20 PM
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hardwood wrote:
Seems Trump wants to work closely with Russia and isolate China. Trump seems to want to cut China to size and diminish its growing influence. I foresee very strained relations between US and China.

https://www.bloomberg.co...rs-options-to-retaliate





they picked a nice enemy... one that only cares about economics outside it's country. I am yet to see china move it's enemy anywhere - they are interested in selling stuff. This means that the economic war if any should be fought in Africa... if it's fought here it will be vita vya panzi!
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