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Kenya Airways...why ignore..
VituVingiSana
#6741 Posted : Saturday, December 10, 2016 9:26:03 AM
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Ebenyo wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
[quote=obiero]Ngunze we will never forget the good things you have done at KQ http://www.businessdaily...80430-x9c4sd/index.html[/quote]
Has MJ cancelled your freebies? Pole sana. Ulijaribu to earn every mile you flew.


Operation costs will increase following mgt commitment to increase engineers pay.Guys should be prepared for a wider loss again next year.I advise those holding kq to take advantage of the current price to sell.



@hooverrl wrote a nice piece on labor/staff costs at KQ. Worth heeding. It applies to any firm especially labor heavy firms and those who margins are thin.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
obiero
#6742 Posted : Saturday, December 10, 2016 9:30:35 AM
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Ebenyo wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
[quote=obiero]Ngunze we will never forget the good things you have done at KQ http://www.businessdaily...80430-x9c4sd/index.html[/quote]
Has MJ cancelled your freebies? Pole sana. Ulijaribu to earn every mile you flew.


Operation costs will increase following mgt commitment to increase engineers pay.Guys should be prepared for a wider loss again next year.I advise those holding kq to take advantage of the current price to sell.


Shindwe

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
muandiwambeu
#6743 Posted : Saturday, December 10, 2016 1:57:10 PM
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obiero wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
[quote=obiero]Ngunze we will never forget the good things you have done at KQ http://www.businessdaily...80430-x9c4sd/index.html[/quote]
Has MJ cancelled your freebies? Pole sana. Ulijaribu to earn every mile you flew.


Operation costs will increase following mgt commitment to increase engineers pay.Guys should be prepared for a wider loss again next year.I advise those holding kq to take advantage of the current price to sell.


Shindwe

Weeee. Unashiriki kanisa gani?Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Drool
,Behold, a sower went forth to sow;....
obiero
#6744 Posted : Wednesday, December 14, 2016 7:23:50 AM
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More good news at KQ http://www.businessdaily...85284-37488xz/index.html

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
sparkly
#6745 Posted : Wednesday, December 14, 2016 8:37:16 AM
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[quote=obiero]More good news at KQ http://www.businessdaily...5284-37488xz/index.html[/quote]

14,200 to Mombasa one-way and not even a complimentary packet of groundnuts or small bottle of water! This is not business, it's exploitation.
Life is short. Live passionately.
Ebenyo
#6746 Posted : Wednesday, December 14, 2016 10:08:41 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
[quote=obiero]Ngunze we will never forget the good things you have done at KQ http://www.businessdaily...80430-x9c4sd/index.html[/quote]
Has MJ cancelled your freebies? Pole sana. Ulijaribu to earn every mile you flew.


Operation costs will increase following mgt commitment to increase engineers pay.Guys should be prepared for a wider loss again next year.I advise those holding kq to take advantage of the current price to sell.



@hooverrl wrote a nice piece on labor/staff costs at KQ. Worth heeding. It applies to any firm especially labor heavy firms and those who margins are thin.


Its good you see the same @vvs.The problem is that a shareholder who is attached emotionally to a particular stock fails to distinguish facts from emotions.
I have learnt not to attach my emotions to a stock.I have learnt to stick to what im after which is longterm gain.
Towards the goal of financial freedom
obiero
#6747 Posted : Wednesday, December 14, 2016 2:16:26 PM
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sparkly wrote:
[quote=obiero]More good news at KQ http://www.businessdaily...5284-37488xz/index.html[/quote]

14,200 to Mombasa one-way and not even a complimentary packet of groundnuts or small bottle of water! This is not business, it's exploitation.

It's going to be a bumper harvest.. In other news, Hondius has indicated interest in the KQ CEO post

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
VituVingiSana
#6748 Posted : Wednesday, December 14, 2016 8:14:27 PM
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sparkly wrote:
[quote=obiero]More good news at KQ http://www.businessdaily...5284-37488xz/index.html[/quote]

14,200 to Mombasa one-way and not even a complimentary packet of groundnuts or small bottle of water! This is not business, it's exploitation.
Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Agreed BUT it's a free market [or not]. Start your own airline... And give 30% to GoK. Take loans. Run it down. Hire @Obiero as the PR guy. Then wait for GoK to bail you out. Retire.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
obiero
#6749 Posted : Wednesday, December 14, 2016 10:26:09 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
sparkly wrote:
[quote=obiero]More good news at KQ http://www.businessdaily...5284-37488xz/index.html[/quote]

14,200 to Mombasa one-way and not even a complimentary packet of groundnuts or small bottle of water! This is not business, it's exploitation.
Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Agreed BUT it's a free market [or not]. Start your own airline... And give 30% to GoK. Take loans. Run it down. Hire @Obiero as the PR guy. Then wait for GoK to bail you out. Retire.

LOL.. System ya majambazi. In other news, Mungu wa Israeli halali http://www.businessdaily...486594-svy39k/index.html

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
VituVingiSana
#6750 Posted : Wednesday, December 14, 2016 10:55:52 PM
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obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
[quote=sparkly][quote=obiero]More good news at KQ http://www.businessdaily...5284-37488xz/index.html[/quote]

14,200 to Mombasa one-way and not even a complimentary packet of groundnuts or small bottle of water! This is not business, it's exploitation.
Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Agreed BUT it's a free market [or not]. Start your own airline... And give 30% to GoK. Take loans. Run it down. Hire @Obiero as the PR guy. Then wait for GoK to bail you out. Retire.

LOL.. System ya majambazi. In other news, Mungu wa Israeli halali http://www.businessdaily...86594-svy39k/index.html[/quote]
Unions will be the death of many Kenyan businesses. I have no love for the crooks [Mbugua et al] of KQ but the unions the cause don't help either. Anyway, KK has no union that I know of Applause Applause Applause
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
VituVingiSana
#6751 Posted : Wednesday, December 14, 2016 10:57:53 PM
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obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
[quote=sparkly][quote=obiero]More good news at KQ http://www.businessdaily...5284-37488xz/index.html[/quote]

14,200 to Mombasa one-way and not even a complimentary packet of groundnuts or small bottle of water! This is not business, it's exploitation.
Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Agreed BUT it's a free market [or not]. Start your own airline... And give 30% to GoK. Take loans. Run it down. Hire @Obiero as the PR guy. Then wait for GoK to bail you out. Retire.

LOL.. System ya majambazi. In other news, Mungu wa Israeli halali http://www.businessdaily...86594-svy39k/index.html[/quote]
Unions will be the death of many Kenyan businesses. I have no love for the crooks [Mbugua et al] of KQ but the unions the cause don't help either. Anyway, KK has no union that I know of Applause Applause Applause
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
sparkly
#6752 Posted : Thursday, December 15, 2016 5:54:02 AM
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obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
[quote=sparkly][quote=obiero]More good news at KQ http://www.businessdaily...5284-37488xz/index.html[/quote]

14,200 to Mombasa one-way and not even a complimentary packet of groundnuts or small bottle of water! This is not business, it's exploitation.
Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Agreed BUT it's a free market [or not]. Start your own airline... And give 30% to GoK. Take loans. Run it down. Hire @Obiero as the PR guy. Then wait for GoK to bail you out. Retire.

LOL.. System ya majambazi. In other news, Mungu wa Israeli halali http://www.businessdaily...86594-svy39k/index.html[/quote]

This is bad news for KQ. It's easier to deal with fragmented Unions.
Life is short. Live passionately.
obiero
#6753 Posted : Thursday, December 15, 2016 8:25:46 AM
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sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
[quote=sparkly][quote=obiero]More good news at KQ http://www.businessdaily...5284-37488xz/index.html[/quote]

14,200 to Mombasa one-way and not even a complimentary packet of groundnuts or small bottle of water! This is not business, it's exploitation.
Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Agreed BUT it's a free market [or not]. Start your own airline... And give 30% to GoK. Take loans. Run it down. Hire @Obiero as the PR guy. Then wait for GoK to bail you out. Retire.

LOL.. System ya majambazi. In other news, Mungu wa Israeli halali http://www.businessdaily...86594-svy39k/index.html[/quote]

This is bad news for KQ. It's easier to deal with fragmented Unions.

KAWU was messed up my friend

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
Impunity
#6754 Posted : Thursday, December 15, 2016 10:29:52 AM
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sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
[quote=sparkly][quote=obiero]More good news at KQ http://www.businessdaily...5284-37488xz/index.html[/quote]

14,200 to Mombasa one-way and not even a complimentary packet of groundnuts or small bottle of water! This is not business, it's exploitation.
Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Agreed BUT it's a free market [or not]. Start your own airline... And give 30% to GoK. Take loans. Run it down. Hire @Obiero as the PR guy. Then wait for GoK to bail you out. Retire.

LOL.. System ya majambazi. In other news, Mungu wa Israeli halali http://www.businessdaily...86594-svy39k/index.html[/quote]

This is bad news for KQ. It's easier to deal with fragmented Unions.


The sheee is pointing north nontheless!
smile
Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

Pesa Nane
#6755 Posted : Thursday, December 15, 2016 4:49:16 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:


14,200 to Mombasa one-way and not even a complimentary packet of groundnuts or small bottle of water! This is not business, it's exploitation.
Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Agreed BUT it's a free market [or not]. Start your own airline... And give 30% to GoK. Take loans. Run it down. Hire @Obiero as the PR guy. Then wait for GoK to bail you out. Retire.

LOL.. System ya majambazi. In other news, Mungu wa Israeli halali http://www.businessdaily...86594-svy39k/index.html

Unions will be the death of many Kenyan businesses. I have no love for the crooks [Mbugua et al] of KQ but the unions the cause don't help either. Anyway, KK has no union that I know of Applause Applause Applause

@VVS you forget the same employees jinxed the last takeover bid?
Court orders KenolKobil to stop sackings
Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
obiero
#6756 Posted : Thursday, December 15, 2016 5:56:12 PM
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Pesa Nane wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:


14,200 to Mombasa one-way and not even a complimentary packet of groundnuts or small bottle of water! This is not business, it's exploitation.
Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Agreed BUT it's a free market [or not]. Start your own airline... And give 30% to GoK. Take loans. Run it down. Hire @Obiero as the PR guy. Then wait for GoK to bail you out. Retire.

LOL.. System ya majambazi. In other news, Mungu wa Israeli halali http://www.businessdaily...86594-svy39k/index.html

Unions will be the death of many Kenyan businesses. I have no love for the crooks [Mbugua et al] of KQ but the unions the cause don't help either. Anyway, KK has no union that I know of Applause Applause Applause

@VVS you forget the same employees jinxed the last takeover bid?
Court orders KenolKobil to stop sackings

Wachana na @vvs, he remains clueless on rapid money making.. Yeye ni slow motion.. Meanwhile, look at more good news at KQ http://www.businessdaily...87622-wqfo16z/index.html

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
enyands
#6757 Posted : Thursday, December 15, 2016 6:46:04 PM
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obiero wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
sparkly wrote:
[quote=obiero]More good news at KQ http://www.businessdaily...5284-37488xz/index.html


14,200 to Mombasa one-way and not even a complimentary packet of groundnuts or small bottle of water! This is not business, it's exploitation.
Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Agreed BUT it's a free market [or not]. Start your own airline... And give 30% to GoK. Take loans. Run it down. Hire @Obiero as the PR guy. Then wait for GoK to bail you out. Retire.

LOL.. System ya majambazi. In other news, Mungu wa Israeli halali http://www.businessdaily...86594-svy39k/index.html

Unions will be the death of many Kenyan businesses. I have no love for the crooks [Mbugua et al] of KQ but the unions the cause don't help either. Anyway, KK has no union that I know of Applause Applause Applause

@VVS you forget the same employees jinxed the last takeover bid?
Court orders KenolKobil to stop sackings

Wachana na @vvs, he remains clueless on rapid money making.. Yeye ni slow motion.. Meanwhile, look at more good news at KQ http://www.businessdaily...7622-wqfo16z/index.html[/quote]

At what cost obiero? How much one way?
obiero
#6758 Posted : Thursday, December 15, 2016 7:49:04 PM
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enyands wrote:
obiero wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
sparkly wrote:
[quote=obiero]More good news at KQ http://www.businessdaily...5284-37488xz/index.html


14,200 to Mombasa one-way and not even a complimentary packet of groundnuts or small bottle of water! This is not business, it's exploitation.
Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Agreed BUT it's a free market [or not]. Start your own airline... And give 30% to GoK. Take loans. Run it down. Hire @Obiero as the PR guy. Then wait for GoK to bail you out. Retire.

LOL.. System ya majambazi. In other news, Mungu wa Israeli halali http://www.businessdaily...86594-svy39k/index.html

Unions will be the death of many Kenyan businesses. I have no love for the crooks [Mbugua et al] of KQ but the unions the cause don't help either. Anyway, KK has no union that I know of Applause Applause Applause

@VVS you forget the same employees jinxed the last takeover bid?
Court orders KenolKobil to stop sackings

Wachana na @vvs, he remains clueless on rapid money making.. Yeye ni slow motion.. Meanwhile, look at more good news at KQ http://www.businessdaily...7622-wqfo16z/index.html[/quote]

At what cost obiero? How much one way?

Depends on how soon one booked. Some will fly for as low as KES 8,200.. Imagine that, flying on a Boeing Dreamliner for under $82

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
VituVingiSana
#6759 Posted : Thursday, December 15, 2016 11:18:25 PM
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Pesa Nane wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:


14,200 to Mombasa one-way and not even a complimentary packet of groundnuts or small bottle of water! This is not business, it's exploitation.
Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Agreed BUT it's a free market [or not]. Start your own airline... And give 30% to GoK. Take loans. Run it down. Hire @Obiero as the PR guy. Then wait for GoK to bail you out. Retire.

LOL.. System ya majambazi. In other news, Mungu wa Israeli halali http://www.businessdaily...86594-svy39k/index.html

Unions will be the death of many Kenyan businesses. I have no love for the crooks [Mbugua et al] of KQ but the unions the cause don't help either. Anyway, KK has no union that I know of Applause Applause Applause

@VVS you forget the same employees jinxed the last takeover bid?
Court orders KenolKobil to stop sackings

Non-unionisable.
No, they were the reason the deal collapsed. Nevertheless, I am confident Ohana will fire all trouble-makers before the next deal. As a shareholder, I support the firing of all employees who want to cause KK grief! Applause Applause Applause
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
VituVingiSana
#6760 Posted : Thursday, December 15, 2016 11:21:56 PM
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obiero wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
sparkly wrote:
[quote=obiero]More good news at KQ http://www.businessdaily...5284-37488xz/index.html


14,200 to Mombasa one-way and not even a complimentary packet of groundnuts or small bottle of water! This is not business, it's exploitation.
Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Agreed BUT it's a free market [or not]. Start your own airline... And give 30% to GoK. Take loans. Run it down. Hire @Obiero as the PR guy. Then wait for GoK to bail you out. Retire.

LOL.. System ya majambazi. In other news, Mungu wa Israeli halali http://www.businessdaily...86594-svy39k/index.html

Unions will be the death of many Kenyan businesses. I have no love for the crooks [Mbugua et al] of KQ but the unions the cause don't help either. Anyway, KK has no union that I know of Applause Applause Applause

@VVS you forget the same employees jinxed the last takeover bid?
Court orders KenolKobil to stop sackings

Wachana na @vvs, he remains clueless on rapid money making.. Yeye ni slow motion.. Meanwhile, look at more good news at KQ http://www.businessdaily...7622-wqfo16z/index.html[/quote]
The hare and the tortoise. Who won the race? Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly It's true, I tried my hand at speculating but lost... I'll stick to my method... Warren Buffett style.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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