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What if the unemployed, disgruntled, the poor and hopeless who make up for majority of the Kenyan population decide that they've had enough?! Are we prepared for such eventualities? I read an interesting article by Bitange Ndemo.. really got me thinking, where an expert insinuated that Kenya is a ticking time-bomb as we all assume that the divide in Kenya is normal. I heard another expert just before the last elections saying that majority of Kenyan young men don't think they have anything worth losing in Kenya. The expert Ndemo is writing about concluded that unrest in Kenya is inevitable. What do you think? Anyway, Google Bitange's article in one of the local dailies, it makes for a good read.
BBI will solve it :)
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2012 wrote:What if the unemployed, disgruntled, the poor and hopeless who make up for majority of the Kenyan population decide that they've had enough?!
Are we prepared for such eventualities?
I read an interesting article by Bitange Ndemo.. really got me thinking, where an expert insinuated that Kenya is a ticking time-bomb as we all assume that the divide in Kenya is normal. I heard another expert just before the last elections saying that majority of Kenyan young men don't think they have anything worth losing in Kenya.
The expert Ndemo is writing about concluded that unrest in Kenya is inevitable. What do you think?
Anyway, Google Bitange's article in one of the local dailies, it makes for a good read. The lower classes are too divided along ethnic lines and not politically conscious enough for such a "ticking time bomb" to become reality. On the other hand why do people fantasise about revolution? The horrors of the Arab Spring are still too raw!
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chemirocha wrote:2012 wrote:What if the unemployed, disgruntled, the poor and hopeless who make up for majority of the Kenyan population decide that they've had enough?!
Are we prepared for such eventualities?
I read an interesting article by Bitange Ndemo.. really got me thinking, where an expert insinuated that Kenya is a ticking time-bomb as we all assume that the divide in Kenya is normal. I heard another expert just before the last elections saying that majority of Kenyan young men don't think they have anything worth losing in Kenya.
The expert Ndemo is writing about concluded that unrest in Kenya is inevitable. What do you think?
Anyway, Google Bitange's article in one of the local dailies, it makes for a good read. The lower classes are too divided along ethnic lines and not politically conscious enough for such a "ticking time bomb" to become reality.On the other hand why do people fantasise about revolution? The horrors of the Arab Spring are still too raw! Are you sure, the UK had such economic instigated riots just the other day. This scenario I do believe is already playing out in Kenya huko mashambani, young men are really terrorizing villagers with all manner of unacceptable behaviors. "The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/30/2016 Posts: 332 Location: Rift Valley
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:chemirocha wrote:2012 wrote:What if the unemployed, disgruntled, the poor and hopeless who make up for majority of the Kenyan population decide that they've had enough?!
Are we prepared for such eventualities?
I read an interesting article by Bitange Ndemo.. really got me thinking, where an expert insinuated that Kenya is a ticking time-bomb as we all assume that the divide in Kenya is normal. I heard another expert just before the last elections saying that majority of Kenyan young men don't think they have anything worth losing in Kenya.
The expert Ndemo is writing about concluded that unrest in Kenya is inevitable. What do you think?
Anyway, Google Bitange's article in one of the local dailies, it makes for a good read. The lower classes are too divided along ethnic lines and not politically conscious enough for such a "ticking time bomb" to become reality.On the other hand why do people fantasise about revolution? The horrors of the Arab Spring are still too raw! Are you sure, the UK had such economic instigated riots just the other day. This scenario I do believe is already playing out in Kenya huko mashambani, young men are really terrorizing villagers with all manner of unacceptable behaviors. In which Kenya will those youth put aside ethnic differences to challenge the ruling class?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/23/2008 Posts: 3,017
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chemirocha wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:chemirocha wrote:2012 wrote:What if the unemployed, disgruntled, the poor and hopeless who make up for majority of the Kenyan population decide that they've had enough?!
Are we prepared for such eventualities?
I read an interesting article by Bitange Ndemo.. really got me thinking, where an expert insinuated that Kenya is a ticking time-bomb as we all assume that the divide in Kenya is normal. I heard another expert just before the last elections saying that majority of Kenyan young men don't think they have anything worth losing in Kenya.
The expert Ndemo is writing about concluded that unrest in Kenya is inevitable. What do you think?
Anyway, Google Bitange's article in one of the local dailies, it makes for a good read. The lower classes are too divided along ethnic lines and not politically conscious enough for such a "ticking time bomb" to become reality.On the other hand why do people fantasise about revolution? The horrors of the Arab Spring are still too raw! Are you sure, the UK had such economic instigated riots just the other day. This scenario I do believe is already playing out in Kenya huko mashambani, young men are really terrorizing villagers with all manner of unacceptable behaviors. In which Kenya will those youth put aside ethnic differences to challenge the ruling class? Anarchy, not challenging the ruling class but more so just destroying everything and everyone, with little regard. "The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:chemirocha wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:chemirocha wrote:2012 wrote:What if the unemployed, disgruntled, the poor and hopeless who make up for majority of the Kenyan population decide that they've had enough?!
Are we prepared for such eventualities?
I read an interesting article by Bitange Ndemo.. really got me thinking, where an expert insinuated that Kenya is a ticking time-bomb as we all assume that the divide in Kenya is normal. I heard another expert just before the last elections saying that majority of Kenyan young men don't think they have anything worth losing in Kenya.
The expert Ndemo is writing about concluded that unrest in Kenya is inevitable. What do you think?
Anyway, Google Bitange's article in one of the local dailies, it makes for a good read. The lower classes are too divided along ethnic lines and not politically conscious enough for such a "ticking time bomb" to become reality.On the other hand why do people fantasise about revolution? The horrors of the Arab Spring are still too raw! Are you sure, the UK had such economic instigated riots just the other day. This scenario I do believe is already playing out in Kenya huko mashambani, young men are really terrorizing villagers with all manner of unacceptable behaviors. In which Kenya will those youth put aside ethnic differences to challenge the ruling class? Anarchy, not challenging the ruling class but more so just destroying everything and everyone, with little regard. Ukabila affects the lower class and the middle class (who only rant on social media but are too scared to go to the streets and protest) The man who marries a beautiful woman, and the farmer who grows corn by the roadside have the same problem
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/10/2010 Posts: 281 Location: Nairobi
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Jean-Jacques Rousseau: When the people shall have nothing more to eat, they will eat the rich. This was in reference to the French Revolution.
Still this hasn't happened in Zimbabwe, Congo, Nigeria or any other sub saharan country that I consider to have worse socio-economic conditions than Kenya. Things are bad, but they are not as bad as we would like to make them seem
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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The problem to me, is more about 'dehumanization' than anything else.
I'm currently working on histories of architecture, and it's like the more humanity gets engrossed with city life, the more it loses itself. The program of the city decreases the confidence of the individual. A word that's being used to describe such an indvidual is 'flaneur'.
The mind is an architectural object. Thinking is architecture; making. So, even this thinking we're doing now is architecture... what's our 'meta-architecture'?
But talking is good for all us because my thoughts are changing, and I'm learning to see my mind. That's the 'third eye'.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/27/2012 Posts: 2,256 Location: Bandalungwa
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2012 wrote:What if the unemployed, disgruntled, the poor and hopeless who make up for majority of the Kenyan population decide that they've had enough?!
Are we prepared for such eventualities?
I read an interesting article by Bitange Ndemo.. really got me thinking, where an expert insinuated that Kenya is a ticking time-bomb as we all assume that the divide in Kenya is normal. I heard another expert just before the last elections saying that majority of Kenyan young men don't think they have anything worth losing in Kenya.
The expert Ndemo is writing about concluded that unrest in Kenya is inevitable. What do you think?
Anyway, Google Bitange's article in one of the local dailies, it makes for a good read. The leaders have hoodwinked unemployed youth and poor village peasants that having a person of your tribe in power is more important than having a government that provides jobs, health, security and fights corruption and incompetence. So as the youth fight each other and call each other names, the elites are busy eating, looting billions and building mansions in Kenya and overseas. There is a youtube video of president Uhuru speaking in vernacular telling youth that they must always be proud of their tribe. Thats a roundabout way of telling the poor peasants that tribal loyalty is the most important thing. His father did the same thing to the detriment of the country. So don't count on Kenyans to wake up and start voting on issues. We are a brainwashed people.
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Alba wrote:2012 wrote:What if the unemployed, disgruntled, the poor and hopeless who make up for majority of the Kenyan population decide that they've had enough?!
Are we prepared for such eventualities?
I read an interesting article by Bitange Ndemo.. really got me thinking, where an expert insinuated that Kenya is a ticking time-bomb as we all assume that the divide in Kenya is normal. I heard another expert just before the last elections saying that majority of Kenyan young men don't think they have anything worth losing in Kenya.
The expert Ndemo is writing about concluded that unrest in Kenya is inevitable. What do you think?
Anyway, Google Bitange's article in one of the local dailies, it makes for a good read. The leaders have hoodwinked unemployed youth and poor village peasants that having a person of your tribe in power is more important than having a government that provides jobs, health, security and fights corruption and incompetence. So as the youth fight each other and call each other names, the elites are busy eating, looting billions and building mansions in Kenya and overseas. There is a youtube video of president Uhuru speaking in vernacular telling youth that they must always be proud of their tribe. Thats a roundabout way of telling the poor peasants that tribal loyalty is the most important thing. His father did the same thing to the detriment of the country. So don't count on Kenyans to wake up and start voting on issues. We are a brainwashed people. Are you sure about what President Kenyatta said? Please put the video or link here.
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Liv wrote:Alba wrote:2012 wrote:What if the unemployed, disgruntled, the poor and hopeless who make up for majority of the Kenyan population decide that they've had enough?!
Are we prepared for such eventualities?
I read an interesting article by Bitange Ndemo.. really got me thinking, where an expert insinuated that Kenya is a ticking time-bomb as we all assume that the divide in Kenya is normal. I heard another expert just before the last elections saying that majority of Kenyan young men don't think they have anything worth losing in Kenya.
The expert Ndemo is writing about concluded that unrest in Kenya is inevitable. What do you think?
Anyway, Google Bitange's article in one of the local dailies, it makes for a good read. The leaders have hoodwinked unemployed youth and poor village peasants that having a person of your tribe in power is more important than having a government that provides jobs, health, security and fights corruption and incompetence. So as the youth fight each other and call each other names, the elites are busy eating, looting billions and building mansions in Kenya and overseas. There is a youtube video of president Uhuru speaking in vernacular telling youth that they must always be proud of their tribe. Thats a roundabout way of telling the poor peasants that tribal loyalty is the most important thing. His father did the same thing to the detriment of the country. So don't count on Kenyans to wake up and start voting on issues. We are a brainwashed people. Are you sure about what President Kenyatta said? Please put the video or link here. Is it bad to be proud of your tribe? tunapenda sideshows sana If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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I was just watching Mutahi Ngunyi (NYS?) on his youtube channel, according to him 2017 might suprise many, the ICC card or the tyranny one might not work for uhuruto the second time, the xaxa generation that's all To Each His Own
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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kayhara wrote:I was just watching Mutahi Ngunyi (NYS?) on his youtube channel, according to him 2017 might suprise many, the ICC card or the tyranny one might not work for uhuruto the second time, the xaxa generation that's all Surprise many in what way? Mutahi Ngunyi is just a corrupt thief. I was really disappointed in him.
BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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2012 wrote:kayhara wrote:I was just watching Mutahi Ngunyi (NYS?) on his youtube channel, according to him 2017 might suprise many, the ICC card or the tyranny one might not work for uhuruto the second time, the xaxa generation that's all Surprise many in what way? Mutahi Ngunyi is just a corrupt thief. I was really disappointed in him. So does that mean Ngunyi should be left out of the preparations of the 'unthinkable'? What about his employers? Who is left to do the preparations?
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/5/2010 Posts: 2,061 Location: Nairobi
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kayhara wrote:I was just watching Mutahi Ngunyi (NYS?) on his youtube channel, according to him 2017 might suprise many, the ICC card or the tyranny one might not work for uhuruto the second time, the xaxa generation that's all Not if Raila keeps this up. http://www.the-star.co.k...-jailed-by-icc_c1472959
Does he learn anything? Finally, some quarters are rumbling with annoyance over corruption, theft and uselessness of the Jubilee government ...even deep in Kyuk country some people must be waking up to the reality that Uhuru and Ruto are completely useless ....and if not Kyuks, sympathizers, the ones who were easily co-opted into voting for the duo ...then Raila digs up this ICC issue, the same totem the two used to galvanize votes and soundly beat him, brings it front and center, instead of hammering home the corruption and other ills then watch Jubilee self-immolate ... Jubilee is smiling. Raila is handing them a lifeline. He is outfoxing himself, to repeat this mistake seems unfathomable; I think I over-rated his intelligence and strategy skills. Terrible
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/26/2007 Posts: 6,514
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Raila has the stupidest advisers in East Africa...even a 3 legged dog can beat him in an election hands down! LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/7/2007 Posts: 11,935 Location: Nairobi
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quicksand wrote:kayhara wrote:I was just watching Mutahi Ngunyi (NYS?) on his youtube channel, according to him 2017 might suprise many, the ICC card or the tyranny one might not work for uhuruto the second time, the xaxa generation that's all Not if Raila keeps this up. http://www.the-star.co.k...-jailed-by-icc_c1472959
Does he learn anything? Finally, some quarters are rumbling with annoyance over corruption, theft and uselessness of the Jubilee government ...even deep in Kyuk country some people must be waking up to the reality that Uhuru and Ruto are completely useless ....and if not Kyuks, sympathizers, the ones who were easily co-opted into voting for the duo ...then Raila digs up this ICC issue, the same totem the two used to galvanize votes and soundly beat him, brings it front and center, instead of hammering home the corruption and other ills then watch Jubilee self-immolate ... Jubilee is smiling. Raila is handing them a lifeline. He is outfoxing himself, to repeat this mistake seems unfathomable; I think I over-rated his intelligence and strategy skills. Terrible It's almost certain that amongst the Agikuyus and Kalenjins, there are many who would want Uhuruto out yesterday. What the two tribes now need is a presidential figure who will re-assure them and then they will come along. Raila just did the opposite in that speech and his continued vitriol ain't helping the course either. Someone slap him shut!  Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
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Njung'e wrote:quicksand wrote:kayhara wrote:I was just watching Mutahi Ngunyi (NYS?) on his youtube channel, according to him 2017 might suprise many, the ICC card or the tyranny one might not work for uhuruto the second time, the xaxa generation that's all Not if Raila keeps this up. http://www.the-star.co.k...-jailed-by-icc_c1472959
Does he learn anything? Finally, some quarters are rumbling with annoyance over corruption, theft and uselessness of the Jubilee government ...even deep in Kyuk country some people must be waking up to the reality that Uhuru and Ruto are completely useless ....and if not Kyuks, sympathizers, the ones who were easily co-opted into voting for the duo ...then Raila digs up this ICC issue, the same totem the two used to galvanize votes and soundly beat him, brings it front and center, instead of hammering home the corruption and other ills then watch Jubilee self-immolate ... Jubilee is smiling. Raila is handing them a lifeline. He is outfoxing himself, to repeat this mistake seems unfathomable; I think I over-rated his intelligence and strategy skills. Terrible It's almost certain that amongst the Agikuyus and Kalenjins, there are many who would want Uhuruto out yesterday. What the two tribes now need is a presidential figure who will re-assure them and then they will come along. Raila just did the opposite in that speech and his continued vitriol ain't helping the course either. Someone slap him shut! There are none  You are qualifying your comment by arguing for a none existent option for now. I bet if the opposition fronted any other candidate, they would find a reason to reject him/her. "The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/7/2007 Posts: 11,935 Location: Nairobi
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:[quote=Njung'e][quote=quicksand][quote=kayhara] There are none You are qualifying your comment by arguing for a none existent option for now. I bet if the opposition fronted any other candidate, they would find a reason to reject him/her. One here, even though i might be the only existing one  . Meanwhile, i think Uhuru needs to get himself a life size mirror and have it in a private room where he can go look at himself at least 3 times a day!. Each time he looks at himself, he should say the following words,"If i am going to lose the 2017 elections, which i am going to lose anyway, i will blame it on the DP and corruption". Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
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