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The unthinkable in Kenya. We must prepare.
2012
#1 Posted : Tuesday, December 13, 2016 4:38:01 PM
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What if the unemployed, disgruntled, the poor and hopeless who make up for majority of the Kenyan population decide that they've had enough?!

Are we prepared for such eventualities?

I read an interesting article by Bitange Ndemo.. really got me thinking, where an expert insinuated that Kenya is a ticking time-bomb as we all assume that the divide in Kenya is normal. I heard another expert just before the last elections saying that majority of Kenyan young men don't think they have anything worth losing in Kenya.

The expert Ndemo is writing about concluded that unrest in Kenya is inevitable. What do you think?

Anyway, Google Bitange's article in one of the local dailies, it makes for a good read.

BBI will solve it
:)
tycho
#2 Posted : Tuesday, December 13, 2016 5:03:04 PM
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chemirocha
#3 Posted : Tuesday, December 13, 2016 5:12:47 PM
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2012 wrote:
What if the unemployed, disgruntled, the poor and hopeless who make up for majority of the Kenyan population decide that they've had enough?!

Are we prepared for such eventualities?

I read an interesting article by Bitange Ndemo.. really got me thinking, where an expert insinuated that Kenya is a ticking time-bomb as we all assume that the divide in Kenya is normal. I heard another expert just before the last elections saying that majority of Kenyan young men don't think they have anything worth losing in Kenya.

The expert Ndemo is writing about concluded that unrest in Kenya is inevitable. What do you think?

Anyway, Google Bitange's article in one of the local dailies, it makes for a good read.


The lower classes are too divided along ethnic lines and not politically conscious enough for such a "ticking time bomb" to become reality.

On the other hand why do people fantasise about revolution? The horrors of the Arab Spring are still too raw!
Obi 1 Kanobi
#4 Posted : Tuesday, December 13, 2016 5:19:44 PM
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chemirocha wrote:
2012 wrote:
What if the unemployed, disgruntled, the poor and hopeless who make up for majority of the Kenyan population decide that they've had enough?!

Are we prepared for such eventualities?

I read an interesting article by Bitange Ndemo.. really got me thinking, where an expert insinuated that Kenya is a ticking time-bomb as we all assume that the divide in Kenya is normal. I heard another expert just before the last elections saying that majority of Kenyan young men don't think they have anything worth losing in Kenya.

The expert Ndemo is writing about concluded that unrest in Kenya is inevitable. What do you think?

Anyway, Google Bitange's article in one of the local dailies, it makes for a good read.


The lower classes are too divided along ethnic lines and not politically conscious enough for such a "ticking time bomb" to become reality.

On the other hand why do people fantasise about revolution? The horrors of the Arab Spring are still too raw!


Are you sure, the UK had such economic instigated riots just the other day.

This scenario I do believe is already playing out in Kenya huko mashambani, young men are really terrorizing villagers with all manner of unacceptable behaviors.
"The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
chemirocha
#5 Posted : Tuesday, December 13, 2016 5:33:06 PM
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
chemirocha wrote:
2012 wrote:
What if the unemployed, disgruntled, the poor and hopeless who make up for majority of the Kenyan population decide that they've had enough?!

Are we prepared for such eventualities?

I read an interesting article by Bitange Ndemo.. really got me thinking, where an expert insinuated that Kenya is a ticking time-bomb as we all assume that the divide in Kenya is normal. I heard another expert just before the last elections saying that majority of Kenyan young men don't think they have anything worth losing in Kenya.

The expert Ndemo is writing about concluded that unrest in Kenya is inevitable. What do you think?

Anyway, Google Bitange's article in one of the local dailies, it makes for a good read.


The lower classes are too divided along ethnic lines and not politically conscious enough for such a "ticking time bomb" to become reality.

On the other hand why do people fantasise about revolution? The horrors of the Arab Spring are still too raw!


Are you sure, the UK had such economic instigated riots just the other day.

This scenario I do believe is already playing out in Kenya huko mashambani, young men are really terrorizing villagers with all manner of unacceptable behaviors.


In which Kenya will those youth put aside ethnic differences to challenge the ruling class?
Obi 1 Kanobi
#6 Posted : Tuesday, December 13, 2016 6:21:58 PM
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chemirocha wrote:
Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
chemirocha wrote:
2012 wrote:
What if the unemployed, disgruntled, the poor and hopeless who make up for majority of the Kenyan population decide that they've had enough?!

Are we prepared for such eventualities?

I read an interesting article by Bitange Ndemo.. really got me thinking, where an expert insinuated that Kenya is a ticking time-bomb as we all assume that the divide in Kenya is normal. I heard another expert just before the last elections saying that majority of Kenyan young men don't think they have anything worth losing in Kenya.

The expert Ndemo is writing about concluded that unrest in Kenya is inevitable. What do you think?

Anyway, Google Bitange's article in one of the local dailies, it makes for a good read.


The lower classes are too divided along ethnic lines and not politically conscious enough for such a "ticking time bomb" to become reality.

On the other hand why do people fantasise about revolution? The horrors of the Arab Spring are still too raw!


Are you sure, the UK had such economic instigated riots just the other day.

This scenario I do believe is already playing out in Kenya huko mashambani, young men are really terrorizing villagers with all manner of unacceptable behaviors.


In which Kenya will those youth put aside ethnic differences to challenge the ruling class?


Anarchy, not challenging the ruling class but more so just destroying everything and everyone, with little regard.
"The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
ZZE123
#7 Posted : Tuesday, December 13, 2016 6:41:22 PM
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
chemirocha wrote:
Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
chemirocha wrote:
2012 wrote:
What if the unemployed, disgruntled, the poor and hopeless who make up for majority of the Kenyan population decide that they've had enough?!

Are we prepared for such eventualities?

I read an interesting article by Bitange Ndemo.. really got me thinking, where an expert insinuated that Kenya is a ticking time-bomb as we all assume that the divide in Kenya is normal. I heard another expert just before the last elections saying that majority of Kenyan young men don't think they have anything worth losing in Kenya.

The expert Ndemo is writing about concluded that unrest in Kenya is inevitable. What do you think?

Anyway, Google Bitange's article in one of the local dailies, it makes for a good read.


The lower classes are too divided along ethnic lines and not politically conscious enough for such a "ticking time bomb" to become reality.

On the other hand why do people fantasise about revolution? The horrors of the Arab Spring are still too raw!


Are you sure, the UK had such economic instigated riots just the other day.

This scenario I do believe is already playing out in Kenya huko mashambani, young men are really terrorizing villagers with all manner of unacceptable behaviors.


In which Kenya will those youth put aside ethnic differences to challenge the ruling class?


Anarchy, not challenging the ruling class but more so just destroying everything and everyone, with little regard.


Ukabila affects the lower class and the middle class (who only rant on social media but are too scared to go to the streets and protest)
The man who marries a beautiful woman, and the farmer who grows corn by the roadside have the same problem
madhaquer
#8 Posted : Tuesday, December 13, 2016 7:11:01 PM
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Jean-Jacques Rousseau: When the people shall have nothing more to eat, they will eat the rich. This was in reference to the French Revolution.

Still this hasn't happened in Zimbabwe, Congo, Nigeria or any other sub saharan country that I consider to have worse socio-economic conditions than Kenya. Things are bad, but they are not as bad as we would like to make them seem
tycho
#9 Posted : Tuesday, December 13, 2016 7:29:55 PM
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The problem to me, is more about 'dehumanization' than anything else.

I'm currently working on histories of architecture, and it's like the more humanity gets engrossed with city life, the more it loses itself. The program of the city decreases the confidence of the individual. A word that's being used to describe such an indvidual is 'flaneur'.

The mind is an architectural object. Thinking is architecture; making. So, even this thinking we're doing now is architecture... what's our 'meta-architecture'?

But talking is good for all us because my thoughts are changing, and I'm learning to see my mind. That's the 'third eye'.
Alba
#10 Posted : Tuesday, December 13, 2016 7:41:02 PM
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2012 wrote:
What if the unemployed, disgruntled, the poor and hopeless who make up for majority of the Kenyan population decide that they've had enough?!

Are we prepared for such eventualities?

I read an interesting article by Bitange Ndemo.. really got me thinking, where an expert insinuated that Kenya is a ticking time-bomb as we all assume that the divide in Kenya is normal. I heard another expert just before the last elections saying that majority of Kenyan young men don't think they have anything worth losing in Kenya.

The expert Ndemo is writing about concluded that unrest in Kenya is inevitable. What do you think?

Anyway, Google Bitange's article in one of the local dailies, it makes for a good read.


The leaders have hoodwinked unemployed youth and poor village peasants that having a person of your tribe in power is more important than having a government that provides jobs, health, security and fights corruption and incompetence.

So as the youth fight each other and call each other names, the elites are busy eating, looting billions and building mansions in Kenya and overseas.

There is a youtube video of president Uhuru speaking in vernacular telling youth that they must always be proud of their tribe. Thats a roundabout way of telling the poor peasants that tribal loyalty is the most important thing. His father did the same thing to the detriment of the country.

So don't count on Kenyans to wake up and start voting on issues. We are a brainwashed people.
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