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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/18/2008 Posts: 3,434 Location: Kerugoya
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quicksand wrote:The general populace, getting its comeuppance for its stupidity. When people throw sense out and vote tribe, they never pause to think that it might circle back and bite them in the arse. They are whipped into emotional and tribal frenzies, shown imaginary enemies and bogeymen and like brainwashed sheep elect good-for-nothing thieves, lameducks and impotent windbags into National and County governments.
Worse, instead of our presidency showing some guts and caving some heads in regarding all this looting, they will resort to the tricks-of-the-light, oratory, social-media-feel-good nonsense and point to the bogeymen, again. The plebs will vote them in, again. Landslide majorities.
Kenyans deserve the misery that comes to them. Can't f****** think.
Hear, hear.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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I thought health was devolved????
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Rank: Chief Joined: 5/9/2007 Posts: 13,095
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Let them pay. If they can afford to autograph any single project they do with a >1B scandal, they can surely afford to pay the doctors...
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Rank: Chief Joined: 5/9/2007 Posts: 13,095
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/5/2010 Posts: 2,459
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quicksand wrote:The general populace, getting its comeuppance for its stupidity. When people throw sense out and vote tribe, they never pause to think that it might circle back and bite them in the arse. They are whipped into emotional and tribal frenzies, shown imaginary enemies and bogeymen and like brainwashed sheep elect good-for-nothing thieves, lameducks and impotent windbags into National and County governments.
Worse, instead of our presidency showing some guts and caving some heads in regarding all this looting, they will resort to the tricks-of-the-light, oratory, social-media-feel-good nonsense and point to the bogeymen, again. The plebs will vote them in, again. Landslide majorities.
Kenyans deserve the misery that comes to them. Can't f****** think.
You've said it as it is. Perhaps the most brutally honest comment i have read for a while. But why not sugarcoat it like everyone elae ? We like our situation sugar coated. You know God is coming to do greater things even to those who have lost their loved ones. This is a scheme by the devil to derail the transformation agenda by our God-ordained leadership. And raira will nefa be president.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 1,982 Location: matano manne
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I pity whoever thinks that elections will ever usher in a better crop if leadership. The system is rigged in favour of bad leaders. @Maka will protest but the constitution is premised on utopian ideals. The thinking that the law an end in itself as far as good governance is concerned is falacious so much so that we forget that ethics and integrity are more primal than a whole mountain of laws and institutions. Our politicking from dusk to dawn and tendency to politicise matters of ethics and integrity don't help either.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/3/2014 Posts: 1,063
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quicksand wrote:The general populace, getting its comeuppance for its stupidity. When people throw sense out and vote tribe, they never pause to think that it might circle back and bite them in the arse. They are whipped into emotional and tribal frenzies, shown imaginary enemies and bogeymen and like brainwashed sheep elect good-for-nothing thieves, lameducks and impotent windbags into National and County governments.
Worse, instead of our presidency showing some guts and caving some heads in regarding all this looting, they will resort to the tricks-of-the-light, oratory, social-media-feel-good nonsense and point to the bogeymen, again. The plebs will vote them in, again. Landslide majorities.
Kenyans deserve the misery that comes to them. Can't f****** think.
 Consistency is better than intensity
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/25/2014 Posts: 2,300 Location: kenya
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Bigchick wrote:I fully agree that our Drs deserve better pay but if the figures I read of almost Ksh 1M are true,then they too are being unreasonable for our size of economy.How much do they make in their private clinics?
The tender scam is a horrible thing that happened and I hope we shall get to the bottom of it and people will be punished.However pushing for this while refering to the tender somehow dilutes the whole issue.
My heart goes out to all those who need services today but are suffering due to the strike.May we get a resolution soon.
Meanwhile I did not like the reporting of the crisis on TV jana. NTV in particular was really trying to sensationalise the matter.A lady being helped by the watchman to deliver is not an extra ordinary feat.It happens every other day as mothers deliver before they get to hospital. It was put there to purposely relay something . Things have become so nasty till the least of hospital hierarchy, someone with the least medical knowledge is helping out just to save a sinking boat? Have we gone that low ? Curious to see how kamwana will steer this sinking boat to a safer ground
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/19/2015 Posts: 2,871 Location: hapo
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quicksand wrote:The general populace, getting its comeuppance for its stupidity. When people throw sense out and vote tribe, they never pause to think that it might circle back and bite them in the arse. They are whipped into emotional and tribal frenzies, shown imaginary enemies and bogeymen and like brainwashed sheep elect good-for-nothing thieves, lameducks and impotent windbags into National and County governments.
Worse, instead of our presidency showing some guts and caving some heads in regarding all this looting, they will resort to the tricks-of-the-light, oratory, social-media-feel-good nonsense and point to the bogeymen, again. The plebs will vote them in, again. Landslide majorities.
Kenyans deserve the misery that comes to them. Can't f****** think.
You have just said it Yesterday, I was talking to 3 guys in my gishagi. One of them is one of the fellows on strike. The other two were very sad. They understood the problem of having the doctors on strike. Their solution: 1. This devolution thing is evil 2. Doctors should give muthamaki time Quicksand, let these so called suffering Kenyans suffer appropriately. If this is what it shall take for them to see sense, let the strike go on. Can you imagine that the guy on strike was lamenting how they've not been paid since January? Kweli doctors and nurses are machines to do work bure? If there's money to pay Kabura, there's money to pay nurses who by the way are working without medicine nor safety equipment No wonder all of them now have a chemist somewhere. How are they supposed to survive? Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/11/2015 Posts: 1,024
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Beyond Zero should help save the day.
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/25/2015 Posts: 839 Location: Kite
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Bila shida people dont think!
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/25/2015 Posts: 839 Location: Kite
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@Alma and @quicksand please tell me this suffering will make a kyuk vote a luo!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/26/2007 Posts: 6,514
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/19/2015 Posts: 2,871 Location: hapo
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 Who cares whether they vote luo or kikuyu...Their stupidity knows no bounds. Forget the Uhuru Raila thing.. In Kiambu its Waititu vs Kabogo In Muranga its Wairia vs the other fellow In Nyeri its that guy vs the other fellow...kwanza nyeri Mpigs...eish! They have proven time and time again that they vote against their own interests. I was recently told that Arthur Magugu used to get votes from people by simply buying them shukas. Ati no roads for ages but voting time, you could never get a cucu who's got magugus head on her butt to think. That's the Kenyan voter for you. Washa warie mara hii. Kwanza oil prices are rising and debt coming to trillions. They shall still vote Sonko or Kidero. Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Is voting for a luo the magic bullet? The luo in luo-land voted for luos as governors and are also suffering. Health is devolved and managed by the governors.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/3/2014 Posts: 1,063
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Taurrus wrote:@Alma and @quicksand please tell me this suffering will make a kyuk vote a luo! They will vote for anyone else but not RAO. Consistency is better than intensity
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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The governors have been praising devolution of health services warning Ohuru to keep off health matters. Why blame ouru? Doctors should talk to their governors. Quote:Governor Hassan Joho says health services have improved greatly in the county thanks to devolution. “Patients are now being referred to the Coast Provincial General Hospital from private hospitals, including Pandya. This never happened before devolution. Confidence in public health facilities has increased tremendously due to improved services,” Joho said. Noting that the county government had allocated the health sector Sh2.6 billion this financial year, the governor said they were working to improve services even more.
Quote:Governors have defended county governments from allegations of mismanaging the health dockets in their devolved units.
Speaking at the State House health summit, Jack Ranguma (Kisumu), Paul Chepkwony (Kericho) and Kinuthia Mbugua (Nakuru) said
Ranguma said the ‘teething problems’ in the health sector at the counties do not mean that the devolved systems have failed in their mandate nor do they mean that devolution is not working.
Quote:Improved healthcare is one of the major successes of devolution, Council of Governors Chairman Peter Munya has said.
Mr Munya said service delivery in a majority of hospitals, especially in Meru County, is now efficient and beneficial to citizens because of devolution.
Read more at: https://www.standardmedi...ices-says-governor-joho
http://www.the-star.co.k...e-house-summit_c1419911
http://www.nation.co.ke/...732142-eh8slm/index.html
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Taurrus wrote:@Alma and @quicksand please tell me this suffering will make a kyuk vote a luo! Why should a kyuk in nairobi vote for kidero after he has messed up the city????? It's only yesterday or juzi that the auditor general said kidero cant account for 20B of city funds. Meanwhile kidero has been in court to stop probing his private accounts that are said to have billions. http://www.businessdaily...98868-ptv1u5/index.html
https://www.kenyans.co.k...e-dont-want-investigated
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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alma1 wrote: Who cares whether they vote luo or kikuyu...Their stupidity knows no bounds. Forget the Uhuru Raila thing.. In Kiambu its Waititu vs Kabogo In Muranga its Wairia vs the other fellow In Nyeri its that guy vs the other fellow...kwanza nyeri Mpigs...eish! They have proven time and time again that they vote against their own interests. I was recently told that Arthur Magugu used to get votes from people by simply buying them shukas. Ati no roads for ages but voting time, you could never get a cucu who's got magugus head on her butt to think. That's the Kenyan voter for you. Washa warie mara hii. Kwanza oil prices are rising and debt coming to trillions. They shall still vote Sonko or Kidero. @alma you are an IDIOT!!!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/5/2010 Posts: 2,061 Location: Nairobi
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hardwood wrote:Is voting for a luo the magic bullet? The luo in luo-land voted for luos as governors and are also suffering. Health is devolved and managed by the governors. No it isn't. It is voting for your well being, the economy and socio-economic system around you; recognizing that the person who puts these things first should be the one you vote for, not because of tribe, familial affiliations, religion or other nonsense that have no relation to selfless, clean and efficient public service. Ideas and ideals transcend people, and every community has its share of bad leaders and criminals. Voters must resist the subterfuge used by politicians to create diversions and enemies, be they from within their tribes/communities or without and instead look at hard facts, track record and especially examine what they have done with funds laid at their disposal. If any incumbent leadership were scared of losing power cause of corruption and non-performance, some heads would have rolled already. Some people would be cooling heels in jail. But they know Kenyan voters are easily misled and confused with sideshows and trivial enmities. Just the other day, some hapless people laid a ceremony for that fraud doctor, beseeching him to run for MCA. In other news, that Wa-??whatshisname rapist quack-doctor is also running for an elective seat -MP I think. I would not be surprised if they got elected. Our appetite for entertainment and the macabre and blatant disregard for societal well-being is astounding. Masses cheer. How is one supposed to find empathy for these same masses when the people they put in power turn around and screw them?
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