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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/8/2013 Posts: 4,068 Location: At Large.
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I fully agree that our Drs deserve better pay but if the figures I read of almost Ksh 1M are true,then they too are being unreasonable for our size of economy.How much do they make in their private clinics? The tender scam is a horrible thing that happened and I hope we shall get to the bottom of it and people will be punished.However pushing for this while refering to the tender somehow dilutes the whole issue. My heart goes out to all those who need services today but are suffering due to the strike.May we get a resolution soon. Meanwhile I did not like the reporting of the crisis on TV jana. NTV in particular was really trying to sensationalise the matter.A lady being helped by the watchman to deliver is not an extra ordinary feat.It happens every other day as mothers deliver before they get to hospital. Love is beautiful and so are those who share it.With Love, Marriage is an amazing event in ones life time, the foundation of joy, happiness and success.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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masukuma wrote:maka wrote:Thitifini wrote:enyands wrote:Thitifini wrote:Intelligentsia wrote:Here's what a few hours outside the A&E Dept at KNH is (real life cases):
CASE#1: a road traffic accident guy brought in on a stretcher...seconds later another stretcher comes in carrying ONE his legs - had been crashed by a Bus in Zimmer (victim was 'Atoti' singer Wicky Mosh). He passed on.
CASE#2: An ambulance screeches to a halt at A&E: there is urgent but uncertain silence as a patient is tenderly removed. Yet even the hardened paramedic crew are unnerved and shocked and not sure how to remove their patient, who has a large timber pole measuring about 1X1 that entered his chest and IS STICKING from his back, i.e he was impaled when the vehicle he was travelling in hit a vehicle carrying timber, no one can explain how it missed the heart...the first nurses at the scene outside A&E scream involuntarily in horror the instant they see the patient. John Lichuku -for that is the name of the patient- played for the national team, he survived due to the hardworking KNH medics only to die 2 years later.
CASE# 3 - a 13 year old girl brought in his limbs (hands and legs) severed by a train in 2016. She will need counselling, she cant believe she's lost vital limbs when life is just beginning...yet the meidcs have treated so many pple their legs crushed to pulp by trains but who never make it to evening news...
So many cases.
I sat at A&E where I had once taken a friend, and deeply appreciated what these pple do, and the countless lives they save.
I say give them whatever they want NOW - at least they have earned it professionally and academically.
On point. But I don't agree with the medics refusing citizens these good care due to salary issues. What happens of the above cases turned up at A&E today? And do you think our current leaders are affected by these? No one will miss a salary or nyama because of it! Were they thinking the same when they did fraud with the 3b afya scam They should go back to work, and Kenyans should go back to common sense come 2017. That wont happen in Kenya for a loooooonnnnng time. there is an assumption that we have a collective brain. 2017 is not very far let's see who gets voted in....and 2022...even if Jesus himself ran against this tribal kings he will lose big time... possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/3/2014 Posts: 1,063
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The main reason why doctors moonlight is because of poor pay and therefore have to substitute their source of income. This country has misplaced priorities and that is the rot that needs to be addressed. Buying equipment worth Billions while the staff are demoralized is Upus. Why would we reach a level that the doctors have to strike for them to get a pay rise is a shame. Very sad day. The government should be proactive to provide good facilities and amenities to encourage and protect the doctors and nurses. The people who are dying are unfortunate collateral damage and their blood is in the hands of the government which have lost its conscience. Consistency is better than intensity
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/5/2010 Posts: 2,061 Location: Nairobi
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The general populace, getting its comeuppance for its stupidity. When people throw sense out and vote tribe, they never pause to think that it might circle back and bite them in the arse. They are whipped into emotional and tribal frenzies, shown imaginary enemies and bogeymen and like brainwashed sheep elect good-for-nothing thieves, lameducks and impotent windbags into National and County governments.
Worse, instead of our presidency showing some guts and caving some heads in regarding all this looting, they will resort to the tricks-of-the-light, oratory, social-media-feel-good nonsense and point to the bogeymen, again. The plebs will vote them in, again. Landslide majorities.
Kenyans deserve the misery that comes to them. Can't f****** think.
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 12/9/2015 Posts: 47 Location: +254
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quicksand wrote:The general populace, getting its comeuppance for its stupidity. When people throw sense out and vote tribe, they never pause to think that it might circle back and bite them in the arse. They are whipped into emotional and tribal frenzies, shown imaginary enemies and bogeymen and like brainwashed sheep elect good-for-nothing thieves, lameducks and impotent windbags into National and County governments.
Worse, instead of our presidency showing some guts and caving some heads in regarding all this looting, they will resort to the tricks-of-the-light, oratory, social-media-feel-good nonsense and point to the bogeymen, again. The plebs will vote them in, again. Landslide majorities.
Kenyans deserve the misery that comes to them. Can't f****** think.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/18/2008 Posts: 3,434 Location: Kerugoya
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quicksand wrote:The general populace, getting its comeuppance for its stupidity. When people throw sense out and vote tribe, they never pause to think that it might circle back and bite them in the arse. They are whipped into emotional and tribal frenzies, shown imaginary enemies and bogeymen and like brainwashed sheep elect good-for-nothing thieves, lameducks and impotent windbags into National and County governments.
Worse, instead of our presidency showing some guts and caving some heads in regarding all this looting, they will resort to the tricks-of-the-light, oratory, social-media-feel-good nonsense and point to the bogeymen, again. The plebs will vote them in, again. Landslide majorities.
Kenyans deserve the misery that comes to them. Can't f****** think.
Hear, hear.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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I thought health was devolved????
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Rank: Chief Joined: 5/9/2007 Posts: 13,095
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Let them pay. If they can afford to autograph any single project they do with a >1B scandal, they can surely afford to pay the doctors...
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Rank: Chief Joined: 5/9/2007 Posts: 13,095
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/5/2010 Posts: 2,459
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quicksand wrote:The general populace, getting its comeuppance for its stupidity. When people throw sense out and vote tribe, they never pause to think that it might circle back and bite them in the arse. They are whipped into emotional and tribal frenzies, shown imaginary enemies and bogeymen and like brainwashed sheep elect good-for-nothing thieves, lameducks and impotent windbags into National and County governments.
Worse, instead of our presidency showing some guts and caving some heads in regarding all this looting, they will resort to the tricks-of-the-light, oratory, social-media-feel-good nonsense and point to the bogeymen, again. The plebs will vote them in, again. Landslide majorities.
Kenyans deserve the misery that comes to them. Can't f****** think.
You've said it as it is. Perhaps the most brutally honest comment i have read for a while. But why not sugarcoat it like everyone elae ? We like our situation sugar coated. You know God is coming to do greater things even to those who have lost their loved ones. This is a scheme by the devil to derail the transformation agenda by our God-ordained leadership. And raira will nefa be president.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 1,982 Location: matano manne
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I pity whoever thinks that elections will ever usher in a better crop if leadership. The system is rigged in favour of bad leaders. @Maka will protest but the constitution is premised on utopian ideals. The thinking that the law an end in itself as far as good governance is concerned is falacious so much so that we forget that ethics and integrity are more primal than a whole mountain of laws and institutions. Our politicking from dusk to dawn and tendency to politicise matters of ethics and integrity don't help either.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/3/2014 Posts: 1,063
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quicksand wrote:The general populace, getting its comeuppance for its stupidity. When people throw sense out and vote tribe, they never pause to think that it might circle back and bite them in the arse. They are whipped into emotional and tribal frenzies, shown imaginary enemies and bogeymen and like brainwashed sheep elect good-for-nothing thieves, lameducks and impotent windbags into National and County governments.
Worse, instead of our presidency showing some guts and caving some heads in regarding all this looting, they will resort to the tricks-of-the-light, oratory, social-media-feel-good nonsense and point to the bogeymen, again. The plebs will vote them in, again. Landslide majorities.
Kenyans deserve the misery that comes to them. Can't f****** think.
 Consistency is better than intensity
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/25/2014 Posts: 2,301 Location: kenya
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Bigchick wrote:I fully agree that our Drs deserve better pay but if the figures I read of almost Ksh 1M are true,then they too are being unreasonable for our size of economy.How much do they make in their private clinics?
The tender scam is a horrible thing that happened and I hope we shall get to the bottom of it and people will be punished.However pushing for this while refering to the tender somehow dilutes the whole issue.
My heart goes out to all those who need services today but are suffering due to the strike.May we get a resolution soon.
Meanwhile I did not like the reporting of the crisis on TV jana. NTV in particular was really trying to sensationalise the matter.A lady being helped by the watchman to deliver is not an extra ordinary feat.It happens every other day as mothers deliver before they get to hospital. It was put there to purposely relay something . Things have become so nasty till the least of hospital hierarchy, someone with the least medical knowledge is helping out just to save a sinking boat? Have we gone that low ? Curious to see how kamwana will steer this sinking boat to a safer ground
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/19/2015 Posts: 2,871 Location: hapo
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quicksand wrote:The general populace, getting its comeuppance for its stupidity. When people throw sense out and vote tribe, they never pause to think that it might circle back and bite them in the arse. They are whipped into emotional and tribal frenzies, shown imaginary enemies and bogeymen and like brainwashed sheep elect good-for-nothing thieves, lameducks and impotent windbags into National and County governments.
Worse, instead of our presidency showing some guts and caving some heads in regarding all this looting, they will resort to the tricks-of-the-light, oratory, social-media-feel-good nonsense and point to the bogeymen, again. The plebs will vote them in, again. Landslide majorities.
Kenyans deserve the misery that comes to them. Can't f****** think.
You have just said it Yesterday, I was talking to 3 guys in my gishagi. One of them is one of the fellows on strike. The other two were very sad. They understood the problem of having the doctors on strike. Their solution: 1. This devolution thing is evil 2. Doctors should give muthamaki time Quicksand, let these so called suffering Kenyans suffer appropriately. If this is what it shall take for them to see sense, let the strike go on. Can you imagine that the guy on strike was lamenting how they've not been paid since January? Kweli doctors and nurses are machines to do work bure? If there's money to pay Kabura, there's money to pay nurses who by the way are working without medicine nor safety equipment No wonder all of them now have a chemist somewhere. How are they supposed to survive? Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/11/2015 Posts: 1,024
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Beyond Zero should help save the day.
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