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Angelica _ann
#151 Posted : Sunday, November 20, 2016 10:19:40 PM
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Realtreaty wrote:

That is very good investment by Centum!!!
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
Ericsson
#152 Posted : Sunday, November 20, 2016 11:06:56 PM
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Now they should also acquire stake in equator bottlers and coast bottlers.
But i see centum doing an exit of Almasi beverages in the near future
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Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
VituVingiSana
#153 Posted : Monday, November 21, 2016 1:23:08 AM
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Ericsson wrote:
Now they should also acquire stake in equator bottlers and coast bottlers.
But i see centum doing an exit of Almasi beverages in the near future

I doubt the "owners" of either business [C & E] want to sell.

Yes, I think Centum will spin it off in the future through a listing. Very smart.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
actuarywahisa
#154 Posted : Monday, November 21, 2016 12:14:59 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Now they should also acquire stake in equator bottlers and coast bottlers.
But i see centum doing an exit of Almasi beverages in the near future

I doubt the "owners" of either business [C & E] want to sell.

Yes, I think Centum will spin it off in the future through a listing. Very smart.


The day the dividend policy on this stock changes....!
There are too many opportunities all around. Open your eyes and maybe you'll spot one
actuarywahisa
#155 Posted : Monday, November 21, 2016 4:09:46 PM
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enyands wrote:
Realtreaty wrote:
Bank interest cap has affected Centum which owns Sidian (Saidia)bank.
The bank was to be used as a borrowing arm to fund Other Centum projects.
Since the bank may not be used to lending money there is still hope Centum will recapture its price.
The bank may also be doing business with international partners who will not be affected by the Kenyan capping.



It could be also centum will benefit from borrowing from its own bank at a reduced interest rate


I doubt that Centum is viewed like 'any other borrower' when determining price of a loan by Sidian...for obvious reasons.
There are too many opportunities all around. Open your eyes and maybe you'll spot one
Angelica _ann
#156 Posted : Monday, November 21, 2016 4:24:08 PM
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actuarywahisa wrote:
enyands wrote:
Realtreaty wrote:
Bank interest cap has affected Centum which owns Sidian (Saidia)bank.
The bank was to be used as a borrowing arm to fund Other Centum projects.
Since the bank may not be used to lending money there is still hope Centum will recapture its price.
The bank may also be doing business with international partners who will not be affected by the Kenyan capping.



It could be also centum will benefit from borrowing from its own bank at a reduced interest rate


I doubt that Centum is viewed like 'any other borrower' when determining price of a loan by Sidian...for obvious reasons.

Where does inside / insider borrowing start and end in this relationship of Centum and Saidia Bank?
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
researchfirst
#157 Posted : Monday, November 21, 2016 4:26:11 PM
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actuarywahisa wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Now they should also acquire stake in equator bottlers and coast bottlers.
But i see centum doing an exit of Almasi beverages in the near future

I doubt the "owners" of either business [C & E] want to sell.

Yes, I think Centum will spin it off in the future through a listing. Very smart.


The day the dividend policy on this stock changes....!


It already changed. They started paying dividends again this year.
enyands
#158 Posted : Monday, November 21, 2016 5:06:41 PM
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researchfirst wrote:
actuarywahisa wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Now they should also acquire stake in equator bottlers and coast bottlers.
But i see centum doing an exit of Almasi beverages in the near future

I doubt the "owners" of either business [C & E] want to sell.

Yes, I think Centum will spin it off in the future through a listing. Very smart.


The day the dividend policy on this stock changes....!


It already changed. They started paying dividends again this year.


Is it a guarantee that they will do the same every year ? I don't think so
Mkondoa Macho
#159 Posted : Monday, November 21, 2016 6:26:39 PM
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This is one of the counters I would never touch. I dont trust management, the dividend drought appeared suspicious to me. The company is a jack of all trades
researchfirst
#160 Posted : Tuesday, November 22, 2016 10:28:28 AM
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enyands wrote:
researchfirst wrote:
actuarywahisa wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Now they should also acquire stake in equator bottlers and coast bottlers.
But i see centum doing an exit of Almasi beverages in the near future

I doubt the "owners" of either business [C & E] want to sell.

Yes, I think Centum will spin it off in the future through a listing. Very smart.


The day the dividend policy on this stock changes....!


It already changed. They started paying dividends again this year.


Is it a guarantee that they will do the same every year ? I don't think so


Nothing is guaranteed, ever, but they said they would.
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