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FRM2011 wrote:Chief Guest wrote:FRM2011 wrote:You are very mean @swenani. Isn't it bad enough that he is going down as a one term guy ? Please don't rub it in. Be kind.
Enyewe 2 years is a looooong time in politics. And to imagine there is someone talking about 2022. How are you guys coming up with the assumption that UMK is not going to make it (win 2017 elections) in serving his second term? And if so, who do you think will replace him?   8,000 votes. That's the magical number that helped UMK avoid a runoff. And that's after one of the most fascinating and well oiled voter mobilisation strategy ever seen. Do you know 8 months before election you couldn't enter karatina market as a trader without proof of registering as a voter ? It was an unbelievably efficient underground movt. Two questions now; what will be the rallying call ? Icc card is gone. Voter mobilization this time around seems to favour the other team. Short of masukuma repeating what he did in 2007, it's one term. Thank God our kids may have a future.  That's a silly lie  .Do you know for how long the market has been under construction? Consistency is better than intensity
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/5/2010 Posts: 2,459
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PeterReborn wrote:FRM2011 wrote:Chief Guest wrote:FRM2011 wrote:You are very mean @swenani. Isn't it bad enough that he is going down as a one term guy ? Please don't rub it in. Be kind.
Enyewe 2 years is a looooong time in politics. And to imagine there is someone talking about 2022. How are you guys coming up with the assumption that UMK is not going to make it (win 2017 elections) in serving his second term? And if so, who do you think will replace him? 8,000 votes. That's the magical number that helped UMK avoid a runoff. And that's after one of the most fascinating and well oiled voter mobilisation strategy ever seen. Do you know 8 months before election you couldn't enter karatina market as a trader without proof of registering as a voter ? It was an unbelievably efficient underground movt. Two questions now; what will be the rallying call ? Icc card is gone. Voter mobilization this time around seems to favour the other team. Short of masukuma repeating what he did in 2007, it's one term. Thank God our kids may have a future. That's a silly lie .Do you know for how long the market has been under construction? Are your fingers working faster than your brain ? So after the market went into construction, the traders went back home ama ? That's my home but I understand you. The typical jubilee supporter displays a lower than average IQ.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/3/2014 Posts: 1,063
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FRM2011 wrote:PeterReborn wrote:FRM2011 wrote:Chief Guest wrote:FRM2011 wrote:You are very mean @swenani. Isn't it bad enough that he is going down as a one term guy ? Please don't rub it in. Be kind.
Enyewe 2 years is a looooong time in politics. And to imagine there is someone talking about 2022. How are you guys coming up with the assumption that UMK is not going to make it (win 2017 elections) in serving his second term? And if so, who do you think will replace him? 8,000 votes. That's the magical number that helped UMK avoid a runoff. And that's after one of the most fascinating and well oiled voter mobilisation strategy ever seen. Do you know 8 months before election you couldn't enter karatina market as a trader without proof of registering as a voter ? It was an unbelievably efficient underground movt. Two questions now; what will be the rallying call ? Icc card is gone. Voter mobilization this time around seems to favour the other team. Short of masukuma repeating what he did in 2007, it's one term. Thank God our kids may have a future. That's a silly lie .Do you know for how long the market has been under construction? Are your fingers working faster than your brain ? So after the market went into construction, the traders went back home ama ? That's my home but I understand you. The typical jubilee supporter displays a lower than average IQ. And you were the one who was checking this at the entrance.Kwani ni Jam session? Consistency is better than intensity
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Angelica _ann wrote:Chief Guest wrote:masukuma wrote:Chief Guest wrote:urstill1 wrote:Chief Guest wrote:FRM2011 wrote:You are very mean @swenani. Isn't it bad enough that he is going down as a one term guy ? Please don't rub it in. Be kind.
Enyewe 2 years is a looooong time in politics. And to imagine there is someone talking about 2022. How are you guys coming up with the assumption that UMK is not going to make it (win 2017 elections) in serving his second term? And if so, who do you think will replace him?
I can bet my balls to be smashed on an anvil. Uhuru is going to be there for his second term. Till 2022. Agreed. There is no one term presidency in KE. Ask Baks. indeed! there is no one term presidency in kenya... UNTIL THERE IS ONE! Let's see if we can do a "trump-like" election next year. Not in Kenya where the Raila fear factor and tribal card plays a big role in presidential elections. What if Raila plays Kingmaker? Say, for instance: Sonko tosa? "The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/26/2009 Posts: 326 Location: Nairobi
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RAO is enough rallying call. Equal to or greater than ICC.
The 'worst' scenario for Jubilee is the unlikely but voluntary absence of RAO on the ballot.
Having observed the under-performance, artful thuggery in current administration, I would vote a Donald Trump if he stood against Uhuruto - newcomer, non-politician who will obliterate the ruling families.
Where art thou, Donald Trump twin brother?
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/24/2010 Posts: 239 Location: nairobi
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wa P wrote:RAO is enough rallying call. Equal to or greater than ICC.
The 'worst' scenario for Jubilee is the unlikely but voluntary absence of RAO on the ballot.
Having observed the under-performance, artful thuggery in current administration, I would vote a Donald Trump if he stood against Uhuruto - newcomer, non-politician who will obliterate the ruling families.
Where art thou, Donald Trump twin brother?
Miguna miguna
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/5/2010 Posts: 2,061 Location: Nairobi
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wa P wrote:RAO is enough rallying call. Equal to or greater than ICC.
The 'worst' scenario for Jubilee is the unlikely but voluntary absence of RAO on the ballot.
Having observed the under-performance, artful thuggery in current administration, I would vote a Donald Trump if he stood against Uhuruto - newcomer, non-politician who will obliterate the ruling families.
Where art thou, Donald Trump twin brother?
RAO not running might not be enough...the spin masters will just as easily paint him as the puppet-master bogeyman lurking in the shadows, "controlling" the opposition candidate of the time. The short-sighted, irascible mountain plebiscite would eat up that story. Slam dunk. Damned if he runs, damned if he doesn't. In short, there are no remedies. We are stuck with this tribalism condition. We are f***ed. This entire generation of idiots (us) needs to die off.... perhaps in 25 years we can make sensible choices.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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wa P wrote:RAO is enough rallying call. Equal to or greater than ICC.
The 'worst' scenario for Jubilee is the unlikely but voluntary absence of RAO on the ballot.
Having observed the under-performance, artful thuggery in current administration, I would vote a Donald Trump if he stood against Uhuruto - newcomer, non-politician who will obliterate the ruling families.
Where art thou, Donald Trump twin brother?
Interestingly even with the continuing rampant theft of public resources, Jubilee is not concerned with 2017, their concern is 2022.
BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/14/2006 Posts: 1,311
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wa P wrote:RAO is enough rallying call. Equal to or greater than ICC.
The 'worst' scenario for Jubilee is the unlikely but voluntary absence of RAO on the ballot.
Having observed the under-performance, artful thuggery in current administration, I would vote a Donald Trump if he stood against Uhuruto - newcomer, non-politician who will obliterate the ruling families.
Where art thou, Donald Trump twin brother?
Most billionaires in kenya are probably no different....they could be drug lords or thieves or people who have benefitted from grabbing government land. Very Few have made money through clean business if any.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/14/2006 Posts: 1,311
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Can someone like James Mwangi be accepted as a "Donald Trump" outside Mt Kenya?
And what would motivate him to run for presidency?
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/27/2014 Posts: 560 Location: Eastlando
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Liv wrote:Can someone like James Mwangi be accepted as a "Donald Trump" outside Mt Kenya?
And what would motivate him to run for presidency? We already have a Trump in kenya. It is Uhuru. Without his loads of cash, Unuru would never have won the presidency.
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Liv wrote:Can someone like James Mwangi be accepted as a "Donald Trump" outside Mt Kenya?
And what would motivate him to run for presidency? Why don't you suggest a person outside Mt. Kenya for the mountaineers to accept It should be a give and take scenario, not "kila saa nipe nipe" "The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/14/2006 Posts: 1,311
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:Liv wrote:Can someone like James Mwangi be accepted as a "Donald Trump" outside Mt Kenya?
And what would motivate him to run for presidency? Why don't you suggest a person outside Mt. Kenya for the mountaineers to accept It should be a give and take scenario, not "kila saa nipe nipe"
Why don't you put your own suggestions here if there is any talent outside mt kenya and who has enough billions to run an independent campaign?
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/8/2008 Posts: 1,575
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Liv wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:Liv wrote:Can someone like James Mwangi be accepted as a "Donald Trump" outside Mt Kenya?
And what would motivate him to run for presidency? Why don't you suggest a person outside Mt. Kenya for the mountaineers to accept It should be a give and take scenario, not "kila saa nipe nipe"
Why don't you put your own suggestions here if there is any talent outside mt Kenyan and who has enough billions to run an independent campaign?
'someone with somewhat rough edges' I care!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/8/2008 Posts: 1,575
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Liv wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:Liv wrote:Can someone like James Mwangi be accepted as a "Donald Trump" outside Mt Kenya?
And what would motivate him to run for presidency? Why don't you suggest a person outside Mt. Kenya for the mountaineers to accept It should be a give and take scenario, not "kila saa nipe nipe"
Why don't you put your own suggestions here if there is any talent outside mt Kenyan and who has enough billions to run an independent campaign?
'someone with somewhat rough edges' I care!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/8/2008 Posts: 1,575
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Liv wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:Liv wrote:Can someone like James Mwangi be accepted as a "Donald Trump" outside Mt Kenya?
And what would motivate him to run for presidency? Why don't you suggest a person outside Mt. Kenya for the mountaineers to accept It should be a give and take scenario, not "kila saa nipe nipe"
Why don't you put your own suggestions here if there is any talent outside mt kenya and who has enough billions to run an independent campaign?
'someone with somewhat rough edges'' I care!
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Trump Could turn make a America look like KenyaQuote:President-elect Trump and Kenyan President Uhuru Kenyatta have much in common. Both are fabulously wealthy, the children of privilege with questionable success in business, and both have been accused of fanning ethnic and racial hatred. Both have risen to head their respective countries in the most unlikely of circumstances and in the face of global opprobrium. Many across the world eschewed Trump’s xenophobia and reckless approach to international affairs; Kenyatta faced similar opposition to his candidacy three years ago. This was a consequence of his – -and his running mate’s — indictment at the International Criminal Court for crimes against humanity in relation to Kenya’s 2008 post-election violence, in which more than 1,000 people died. If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Swenani wrote:Trump Could turn make a America look like KenyaQuote:President-elect Trump and Kenyan President Uhuru Kenyatta have much in common. Both are fabulously wealthy, the children of privilege with questionable success in business, and both have been accused of fanning ethnic and racial hatred. Both have risen to head their respective countries in the most unlikely of circumstances and in the face of global opprobrium. Many across the world eschewed Trump’s xenophobia and reckless approach to international affairs; Kenyatta faced similar opposition to his candidacy three years ago. This was a consequence of his – -and his running mate’s — indictment at the International Criminal Court for crimes against humanity in relation to Kenya’s 2008 post-election violence, in which more than 1,000 people died. Mzungu .... hate speech  In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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Angelica _ann wrote:Swenani wrote:Trump Could turn make a America look like KenyaQuote:President-elect Trump and Kenyan President Uhuru Kenyatta have much in common. Both are fabulously wealthy, the children of privilege with questionable success in business, and both have been accused of fanning ethnic and racial hatred. Both have risen to head their respective countries in the most unlikely of circumstances and in the face of global opprobrium. Many across the world eschewed Trump’s xenophobia and reckless approach to international affairs; Kenyatta faced similar opposition to his candidacy three years ago. This was a consequence of his – -and his running mate’s — indictment at the International Criminal Court for crimes against humanity in relation to Kenya’s 2008 post-election violence, in which more than 1,000 people died. Mzungu .... hate speech Angelica Ann, you 're on my mind...looking forward to see you in my dreams If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Angelica _ann wrote:Swenani wrote:Trump Could turn make a America look like KenyaQuote:President-elect Trump and Kenyan President Uhuru Kenyatta have much in common. Both are fabulously wealthy, the children of privilege with questionable success in business, and both have been accused of fanning ethnic and racial hatred. Both have risen to head their respective countries in the most unlikely of circumstances and in the face of global opprobrium. Many across the world eschewed Trump’s xenophobia and reckless approach to international affairs; Kenyatta faced similar opposition to his candidacy three years ago. This was a consequence of his – -and his running mate’s — indictment at the International Criminal Court for crimes against humanity in relation to Kenya’s 2008 post-election violence, in which more than 1,000 people died. Mzungu .... hate speech The article is written by a Kenyan, Patrick Gathara.
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