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Njung'e wrote:timizo wrote:Njung'e wrote:timizo wrote:[quote=Njung'e]
......Or are you mad because a girl with roots in Mt Kenya was outdone by a guy from the lake? Did i say that?. Just watch lest you get drained with the sewer too  . Anyway, i am not a Nairobian and i do not intend to be one, so i wouldn't care even if you fellows voted for an ass!!. Can we now discuss about Miguna's disgusting attack on a hapless woman? Please watch the show in full. I probably have more respect for women than you do. But I hate manipulators... I had lots of respect for Esther before this show but after following it through, I have no doubts that Esther is a manipulator.....She set the tone of the debate ..i.e attack Miguna....she knew what Miguna was capable of, she was smiling throughout...she had her time to accuse Miguna of rape, she said how ugly Miguna was and so many other things. Immediately after the debate, she was on facebook lamenting and playing victim saying her father was ill and was watching etc..... Please expect to be treated with the same decorum you have invited. Probably we act different. Must it follow that if i say nasty things you follow it through with the same?. If you accused me of rape that never was, two things would happen; 1. I would not go ballistic. 2. I would demand clarification. END! On that note, @mm accused @passaris of faking rape cases, then to me @passaris should have requested for clarification but instead she responded by saying on live national tv that @mm has no balls and that she is very sure since she had actually tried the non existence balls in the past. @MM ndio dawa ya @passaris...she cannot play victim when she is hit below her pubic bone. She called for it, she got it. If you are respectable woman you should carry yourself with some decorum for you to expect the same. Portfolio: Sold You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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timizo wrote:And by they way, looking at the close association of Esther with Kidero, there is a high chance she is not keen on running. She had been sent to the show by Kidero to accomplish something.......
Kidero has noted that Miguna might take some votes from the lakers in Nairobi and they way to stop that is to play that card of disloyalty to Baba...no wonder that was the line of questioning from Passaris. You have got jokes In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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Came across this... Do I have something to say regarding what happened at the JKL Show last night? Of course I do. Miguna Miguna is no Donald Trump. There is only one Donald Trump, and he is neither Kenyan nor lives in Canada. Trumpism, the political philosophy of running your mouth while high on populism, was not started by Donald Trump, and it will not end with him. Miguna Miguna is your average Kenyan politician, there is nothing new he has said, as a Kenyan politician, that we have yet to come across. Moses Kuria incited his Gatundu base to get machetes and look for Raila Odinga. Evans Kidero slapped a woman when cameras were rolling. Uhuru Kenyatta has said numerous unpresidential stuff before. William Ruto's vile tongue is his greatest undoing. Miguna Miguna might be a whole lot of things but civility is not one of them. During our Primatology classes, at the University of Nairobi, whenever we started arguing over petty stuff as which group gets to discuss which easy topic, the lecturer was always quick to remind us that even the Bonobos would never have behaved like were were doing faced with similar circumstances. The Bonobos, for those not in the know, are the closest extant species to humans. Of all the ape species known to man, the Bonobo society are the most respectful and most tolerant of their women. Aggressive encounters between male and female Bonobos are rare, and males are tolerant of infants and juveniles. This is because the brain anatomy of Bonobos has more developed and larger regions vital for feeling empathy and sensing distress in others, which makes them less aggressive and more empathetic than any other ape species. They also have a thick connection between the area that can spark aggression, and the ventral anterior cingulate cortex, which helps control impulses. This thicker connection makes them better at regulating their emotional impulses and behavior. If Miguna Miguna was an ape, he would rank lower than a Bonobo male in the evolution tree, because the average Bonobo male would not have taken Esther Passaris' bait, at the very least, or would have responded to Passaris' takedown in a more reserved manner, at the very worst. If Miguna Miguna went to JKL last night as the only saviour Nairobi needed, then he left it in the same gutter level that Passaris came from. Last night, the JKL show succeeded in lumping Miguna Miguna and Esther Passaris in the same sewer rat category. I have never met Miguna Miguna, but I have spoken to a number of those who have sat with him in forums where serious stuff is being discussed. They are in common agreement that Miguna Miguna is a master scholar who does his research with the detail of a hawk eye. They are also in unison that Miguna Miguna loathes mediocrity in all it's manifestations. If you are invited into a discussion with Miguna Miguna, you better know your stuff well. Miguna Miguna is always categorical that he only debates with his equals, something he has never shied away from mentioning whenever he feels he is getting a raw deal from discussions he's engaged in. The problem with Miguna Miguna is his demenour. There are ways to shut down those you feel are intellectually malnourished but digging into their personal stuff is not one of them. I have no problems with people sleeping around with people. During our elementary biology classes, we were told that one of the characteristics of living things is their response to stimuli. I have no problem with people having sex with whomever they choose to have it with. No one should be ashamed of having sex with whomever they choose to have it with, but to use the same against someone on a serious political talkshow is to cheapen the worth of your candidature. No one has the right to bring another person's bedroom affairs to a live television talkshow discussing the future of East Africa's geopolitical hub. Esther Passaris did not come to JKL last night to articulate her vision for Nairobi, she came purposely to match up to Miguna Miguna's arrogance - and she got served more than she could handle. There is a problem with people who come to discussions with the sole intention of responding to what the others have already articulated. She did not have a Manifesto, she said she did not need one. They were left discussing Miguna's well-articulated blueprint - for the few instances that the talk-show was sober. There is no way you are going to discuss a manifesto that you did not craft. If you don't know where you are going, any road can take you there - and sadly for Passaris the road to hell was littered with Miguna Miguna's vomit. The problem I have with the JKL Show is the moderator, Jeff Koinange. If rape was the subject of last night's vitriol-laden horrow show, then those who watched it must be reminded that it is Jeff Koinange who started the show by asking Miguna to attack Passaris, which MIguna refused to, but Passaris latched onto the bait and the discussion started going South. If you are marketing your show as the number 1 political talkshow in this country then it should live up to it's hyped billing. I have always said that Jeff Koinange should be sued for false advertising. Last night's JKL Show, like any other gone before, was atrocious because Jeff lacked the skills necessary to keep the quality of the discussion above board. If I wanted to know how many men Passaris has been sleeping around with, or how many house servants Miguna Miguna has raped, I would not have waited for the JKL Show to get that information. Such gutter-level gossip is found in Kilimani Mums or those ratchet Facebook groups that is free for all. Jeff Koinange, and that noisy fire extinguisher of his, should be cleared off our television screens and a serious replacement be sort. If there is one person who should apologize to Esther Passaris and Miguna Miguna for the wretchedness of the debate last night, that person is Jeff Koinange. There is no way you are going to cheer on two people attacking each other under the belt because you want your show to trend on social media. There are better ways to trend JKL Show, and it is not by allowing it to degenerate into a brutal shouting match. Jeff Koinange is going to apologize to the Kenyan public for a second week in a row, after allowing Boniface Mwangi's monologue last week to be gatecrashed by noisy riff-raffs with air between their ears. It is the least he can do to redeem the credibility of that thing now on the brink of oblivion. If I were to watch JKL Show again, it will be for it's nuisance value alone. Congratulations to all those who keep giving the hollow show a wide berth. You are my heroes today. possunt quia posse videntur
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maka wrote:Came across this...
Do I have something to say regarding what happened at the JKL Show last night? Of course I do.
Miguna Miguna is no Donald Trump. There is only one Donald Trump, and he is neither Kenyan nor lives in Canada. Trumpism, the political philosophy of running your mouth while high on populism, was not started by Donald Trump, and it will not end with him. Miguna Miguna is your average Kenyan politician, there is nothing new he has said, as a Kenyan politician, that we have yet to come across. Moses Kuria incited his Gatundu base to get machetes and look for Raila Odinga. Evans Kidero slapped a woman when cameras were rolling. Uhuru Kenyatta has said numerous unpresidential stuff before. William Ruto's vile tongue is his greatest undoing.
Miguna Miguna might be a whole lot of things but civility is not one of them. During our Primatology classes, at the University of Nairobi, whenever we started arguing over petty stuff as which group gets to discuss which easy topic, the lecturer was always quick to remind us that even the Bonobos would never have behaved like were were doing faced with similar circumstances.
The Bonobos, for those not in the know, are the closest extant species to humans. Of all the ape species known to man, the Bonobo society are the most respectful and most tolerant of their women. Aggressive encounters between male and female Bonobos are rare, and males are tolerant of infants and juveniles. This is because the brain anatomy of Bonobos has more developed and larger regions vital for feeling empathy and sensing distress in others, which makes them less aggressive and more empathetic than any other ape species. They also have a thick connection between the area that can spark aggression, and the ventral anterior cingulate cortex, which helps control impulses. This thicker connection makes them better at regulating their emotional impulses and behavior.
If Miguna Miguna was an ape, he would rank lower than a Bonobo male in the evolution tree, because the average Bonobo male would not have taken Esther Passaris' bait, at the very least, or would have responded to Passaris' takedown in a more reserved manner, at the very worst. If Miguna Miguna went to JKL last night as the only saviour Nairobi needed, then he left it in the same gutter level that Passaris came from. Last night, the JKL show succeeded in lumping Miguna Miguna and Esther Passaris in the same sewer rat category.
I have never met Miguna Miguna, but I have spoken to a number of those who have sat with him in forums where serious stuff is being discussed. They are in common agreement that Miguna Miguna is a master scholar who does his research with the detail of a hawk eye. They are also in unison that Miguna Miguna loathes mediocrity in all it's manifestations. If you are invited into a discussion with Miguna Miguna, you better know your stuff well. Miguna Miguna is always categorical that he only debates with his equals, something he has never shied away from mentioning whenever he feels he is getting a raw deal from discussions he's engaged in.
The problem with Miguna Miguna is his demenour. There are ways to shut down those you feel are intellectually malnourished but digging into their personal stuff is not one of them. I have no problems with people sleeping around with people. During our elementary biology classes, we were told that one of the characteristics of living things is their response to stimuli. I have no problem with people having sex with whomever they choose to have it with. No one should be ashamed of having sex with whomever they choose to have it with, but to use the same against someone on a serious political talkshow is to cheapen the worth of your candidature. No one has the right to bring another person's bedroom affairs to a live television talkshow discussing the future of East Africa's geopolitical hub.
Esther Passaris did not come to JKL last night to articulate her vision for Nairobi, she came purposely to match up to Miguna Miguna's arrogance - and she got served more than she could handle. There is a problem with people who come to discussions with the sole intention of responding to what the others have already articulated. She did not have a Manifesto, she said she did not need one. They were left discussing Miguna's well-articulated blueprint - for the few instances that the talk-show was sober. There is no way you are going to discuss a manifesto that you did not craft. If you don't know where you are going, any road can take you there - and sadly for Passaris the road to hell was littered with Miguna Miguna's vomit.
The problem I have with the JKL Show is the moderator, Jeff Koinange. If rape was the subject of last night's vitriol-laden horrow show, then those who watched it must be reminded that it is Jeff Koinange who started the show by asking Miguna to attack Passaris, which MIguna refused to, but Passaris latched onto the bait and the discussion started going South. If you are marketing your show as the number 1 political talkshow in this country then it should live up to it's hyped billing. I have always said that Jeff Koinange should be sued for false advertising. Last night's JKL Show, like any other gone before, was atrocious because Jeff lacked the skills necessary to keep the quality of the discussion above board.
If I wanted to know how many men Passaris has been sleeping around with, or how many house servants Miguna Miguna has raped, I would not have waited for the JKL Show to get that information. Such gutter-level gossip is found in Kilimani Mums or those ratchet Facebook groups that is free for all.
Jeff Koinange, and that noisy fire extinguisher of his, should be cleared off our television screens and a serious replacement be sort. If there is one person who should apologize to Esther Passaris and Miguna Miguna for the wretchedness of the debate last night, that person is Jeff Koinange. There is no way you are going to cheer on two people attacking each other under the belt because you want your show to trend on social media. There are better ways to trend JKL Show, and it is not by allowing it to degenerate into a brutal shouting match.
Jeff Koinange is going to apologize to the Kenyan public for a second week in a row, after allowing Boniface Mwangi's monologue last week to be gatecrashed by noisy riff-raffs with air between their ears. It is the least he can do to redeem the credibility of that thing now on the brink of oblivion.
If I were to watch JKL Show again, it will be for it's nuisance value alone. Congratulations to all those who keep giving the hollow show a wide berth.
You are my heroes today. People should research on bonobos and female relations... and how they keep the system working. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Angelica _ann wrote:timizo wrote:And by they way, looking at the close association of Esther with Kidero, there is a high chance she is not keen on running. She had been sent to the show by Kidero to accomplish something.......
Kidero has noted that Miguna might take some votes from the lakers in Nairobi and they way to stop that is to play that card of disloyalty to Baba...no wonder that was the line of questioning from Passaris. You have got jokes I think its you who have jokes. How many votes do you hold for the lakers?
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@Washiku weka picha ya bonobos pls!
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I am also in the corner stating that a real man should never get into a screeching contest with a woman. Any man who out insults a woman is not a real man. Just saying... "The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
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timizo wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:timizo wrote:And by they way, looking at the close association of Esther with Kidero, there is a high chance she is not keen on running. She had been sent to the show by Kidero to accomplish something.......
Kidero has noted that Miguna might take some votes from the lakers in Nairobi and they way to stop that is to play that card of disloyalty to Baba...no wonder that was the line of questioning from Passaris. You have got jokes I think its you who have jokes. How many votes do you hold for the lakers? Lakers can't stand MigunaX2, can't give him anytime of day. His behavior reflects badly on Lakers, plus he stabbed baba..  in the back. "The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/3/2015 Posts: 126 Location: Nairobi
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Wakanyugi wrote:Njung'e wrote:Miguna is rubbish!!...So proud and arrogant. A man ought to listen to self and sometimes take the high road. Just when you thought that was the moment, the fellow takes a dive into the sewer he is supposed to drain. Was all that trash necessary? Why are you surprised? MigunaX2 has been a fixture of the internet gutter press for years, long before he even came back to Kenya. The fact that he did such a good job of self sanitizing - with the PM adviser gig; the sympathy inducing fallout; peeling back the mask etc - did not erase his innate character as a class a-hole, any more than Trump being President will erase his. Make him governor of Nairobi by all means but don't be under any illusions what you are getting. Kenyans are such easy dupes; I could make a bundle out of them if I was not such a holy man. Mr Holy Wakanyugi....We know all that about Miguna. But this is why we support miguna. WE FEAR CORRUPTION MORE THAN WE FEAR MIGUNA'S CHARACTER. It is about what we would rather leave with. If I am presented with another candidate who is not corrupt or sympathetic to the corrupt and with less arrogance, I will change my mind. But for now, I stand with the one I believe will fight corruption. MIGUNA'S ARROGANCE HAS NOT KILLED AND WILL NOT KILL ANYBODY. BUT CORRUPTION IS KILLING KENYANS EVERYDAY BECAUSE OF MISSED MEDICAL ATTENTION AND BECAUSE OF MANY OTHER THINGS ...AND IT WILL CONTINUE TO KILL. I WOULD RATHER BE ALIVE WITH AN ARROGANT LEADER THAN BE DEAD BECAUSE OF A CORRUPT LEADER.
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timizo wrote:Wakanyugi wrote:Njung'e wrote:Miguna is rubbish!!...So proud and arrogant. A man ought to listen to self and sometimes take the high road. Just when you thought that was the moment, the fellow takes a dive into the sewer he is supposed to drain. Was all that trash necessary? Why are you surprised? MigunaX2 has been a fixture of the internet gutter press for years, long before he even came back to Kenya. The fact that he did such a good job of self sanitizing - with the PM adviser gig; the sympathy inducing fallout; peeling back the mask etc - did not erase his innate character as a class a-hole, any more than Trump being President will erase his. Make him governor of Nairobi by all means but don't be under any illusions what you are getting. Kenyans are such easy dupes; I could make a bundle out of them if I was not such a holy man. Mr Holly Wakanyugi....We know all that about Miguna. But this is why we support miguna. WE FEAR CORRUPTION MORE THAN WE FEAR MIGUNA'S CHARACTER. It is about what we would rather leave with. If I am presented with another candidate who is not corrupt or sympathetic to the corrupt and with less arrogance, I will change my mind. But for now, I stand with the one I believe will fight corruption. MIGUNA'S ARROGANCE HAS NOT KILLED AND WILL NOT KILL ANYBODY. BUT CORRUPTION IS KILLING KENYANS EVERYDAY BECAUSE OF MISSED MEDICAL ATTENTION AND BECAUSE OF MANY OTHER THINGS ...AND IT WILL CONTINUE TO KILL. I WOULD RATHER BE ALIVE WITH AN ARROGANT LEADER BUT BE DEAD BECAUSE OF A CORRUPT LEADER. Go easy you will get an aneurysm... possunt quia posse videntur
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Taurrus wrote:@Washiku weka picha ya bonobos pls! On behalf and on how they manage sexuality! Apologies.  Portfolio: Sold You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/3/2015 Posts: 126 Location: Nairobi
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@Impunity. Toa hio kitu please....please.....utafanya this thread to be banned.
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hizi ratings zinatafutwa in every possible way
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sitaki.kujulikana wrote:hizi ratings zinatafutwa in every possible way gani? wacha kuogopa...sema
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/3/2015 Posts: 126 Location: Nairobi
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How come there was no disgust and outcry when our No.2 without provocation said that someone was cat walking and when someone is provoked and abused and answers back, it is a big big problem? DOUBLE STANDARDS?
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Kenyans are tired of political correctness. Miguna just told Passaris who she really is. This habit of treating corrupt thieves and murderers as if they are lords needs to stop. We need more people like Miguna and Mwangi to call out these hyenas disguised as leaders. There is no mud slinginging there. Passaris asked for it and she got it, fair and square. Its ridiculuos really, a guy siphons money meant for healthcare and tomorrow we invite them for a harambee to raise medical funds for our brother. Let them be called what they really are, drug dealers, thieves, murderers, bimbos, sex pests etc. They must find it difficult....... those who have taken authority as the truth, rather than truth as the authority. -G. Massey.
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Impunity wrote:Taurrus wrote:@Washiku weka picha ya bonobos pls! On behalf and on how they manage sexuality! Apologies.  This is what binds the community especially female to female "action" All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:I am also in the corner stating that a real man should never get into a screeching contest with a woman. Any man who out insults a woman is not a real man. Just saying... A lot of hogwash..typical feminist nonsense that seeks to make a woman play the victim card. Let me ask, what about a real Woman, what does she do or doesn't she do? On Christ Alone
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I just remembered this All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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