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SHIITE vs SUNNI
Anti_Burglar
#101 Posted : Thursday, February 25, 2016 4:57:53 PM
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tycho wrote:
Anti_Burglar wrote:
tycho wrote:
Anti_Burglar wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Anti_Burglar wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Anti_Burglar wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
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The human mind works in strange ways. Whenever a person -- even a highly trained scientist -- starts an investigation based upon prior presuppositions, he is likely to try to make the facts fit his presupposition rather than letting the facts lead him to the proper conclusion.

Of course it is only muslims who are objective and whose brains work right. Until they start chopping THEN their minds also work in strange ways, right?

@Burglar, chop what?

You just confirmed the quote, by posting "...based upon prior presuppositions" Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

Chopping various things, wrists, necks etc. But Koran is the foundation upon which that presupposition firmly rests.

Facts firmly rests there, the two true authentic sources of Islam: the Quran, which is 100% the Word of God and the authentic Hadith, which is the words, saying and tradition of the prophet Muhammad (pbuh).

Anything else is presumption and offers no solution to problems facing humanity today! No solution! Islam gives you an answer to this problem of theft.

I'm asking in this boasting of yours, what is the solution to this problem of theft?

NOTE: AND FOR THOSE WHO WANT TO MISUNDERSTAND ME RIGHT NOW. I AM NOT IN ANYWAY SUGGESTING ANYTHING REGARDING SO CALLED SUNNI VS SHIA. I AM JUST RESPONDING TO COMMON DANGER OF PRESUPPOSITION.


Koran presupposes it has the answer to theft and offers a superficial suggestion that it insists is a solution. Because for one born without hands and has become adept in using other things, theft is still possible.


Haha!


I don't understand your happiness.


Laughter isn't happiness. But the desperation to pin @AlphDoti is funny.


At least you find it attractive enough to relieve you from your own monologue.
Nandwa
#102 Posted : Tuesday, November 15, 2016 1:38:05 PM
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AlphDoti
#103 Posted : Tuesday, November 15, 2016 2:36:59 PM
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Obi 1 Kanobi
#104 Posted : Tuesday, November 15, 2016 3:00:53 PM
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Iranians are not Arabs, right?

They alongside Afghanistan and many other countries ending in *stan are more of persians.

Whats the difference @Alphadoti or @Masukuma.

I really need to brush up on my general world knowledge.
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Nandwa
#105 Posted : Wednesday, November 16, 2016 11:51:02 AM
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AlphDoti
#106 Posted : Wednesday, November 16, 2016 12:43:54 PM
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AlphDoti
#107 Posted : Wednesday, November 16, 2016 1:22:33 PM
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As we wait for @mavegs to address your first question "whether Iranians are Arabs", I think the Persians had influence to the regions they ruled in Central Asia in terms of culture, language, ways of life, architecture, travel, religion etc

In the meantime, let me share video I found about suffix -stan...

Nandwa
#108 Posted : Wednesday, November 16, 2016 2:11:40 PM
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Ooh,
I thought rain is one of themd'oh! d'oh! d'oh!
Just as absolute power corrupts leaders, so does absolute fanaticism blind the people from logic
Nandwa
#109 Posted : Wednesday, November 16, 2016 2:19:08 PM
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So, when neighbours complain of Iran being a trouble maker in the region how is that some 'plan by a certain mastermind looking for blah blah blah....'
A perfect case of overstretching imagination!
Just as absolute power corrupts leaders, so does absolute fanaticism blind the people from logic
AlphDoti
#110 Posted : Wednesday, November 16, 2016 4:12:36 PM
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Nandwa wrote:

So, when neighbours complain of Iran being a trouble maker in the region how is that some 'plan by a certain mastermind looking for blah blah blah....'
A perfect case of overstretching imagination!

@Nandwa, first before you kill the neighbour's dog, first you must make it look bad. I hope you get the point.



AlphDoti
#111 Posted : Wednesday, November 16, 2016 7:06:48 PM
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Nandwa wrote:

By the way @nandwa, the attack on Iran is not meant to knock out Iran... not at all!
The attack on Iran is meant to provoke a series of wars which are going to last for some time. Cities are going to be attacked... the supply of food, the food chain will be interfered, water... You are talking about rain, forget rain, I wonder how are you going to survive in the city when this happens and you cannot get food? You will have the money to buy the food, but the food will not be there. Because the food is delivered from outside of the city. Food is not grown in the city...
Water comes to you from outside...

Tighten your belt bro... this is a planned demolition of humanity... It's mega térrorìsm...
Angelica _ann
#112 Posted : Wednesday, November 16, 2016 7:11:10 PM
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AlphDoti wrote:
Nandwa wrote:

By the way @nandwa, the attack on Iran is not meant to knock out Iran... not at all!
The attack on Iran is meant to provoke a series of wars which are going to last for some time. Cities are going to be attacked... the supply of food, the food chain will be interfered, water... I wonder how are you going to survive in the city when this happens and you cannot get food?

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Nandwa
#113 Posted : Wednesday, November 16, 2016 8:20:31 PM
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AlphDoti wrote:
Nandwa wrote:

By the way @nandwa, the attack on Iran is not meant to knock out Iran... not at all!
The attack on Iran is meant to provoke a series of wars which are going to last for some time. Cities are going to be attacked... the supply of food, the food chain will be interfered, water... You are talking about rain, forget rain, I wonder how are you going to survive in the city when this happens and you cannot get food? You will have the money to buy the food, but the food will not be there. Because the food is delivered from outside of the city. Food is not grown in the city...
Water comes to you from outside...

Tighten your belt bro... this is a planned demolition of humanity... It's mega térrorìsm...


If you feed youth with these kinds of baseless propaganda in Mosques, any wonder what follows!
Just as absolute power corrupts leaders, so does absolute fanaticism blind the people from logic
AlphDoti
#114 Posted : Thursday, November 17, 2016 12:15:32 PM
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Nandwa wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Nandwa wrote:

By the way @nandwa, the attack on Iran is not meant to knock out Iran... not at all!
The attack on Iran is meant to provoke a series of wars which are going to last for some time. Cities are going to be attacked... the supply of food, the food chain will be interfered, water... You are talking about rain, forget rain, I wonder how are you going to survive in the city when this happens and you cannot get food? You will have the money to buy the food, but the food will not be there. Because the food is delivered from outside of the city. Food is not grown in the city... Water comes to you from outside...

Tighten your belt bro... this is a planned demolition of humanity... It's mega térrorìsm...

If you feed youth with these kinds of baseless propaganda in Mosques, any wonder what follows!

@Nandwa, I'm just warning you. You were talking about rain, and I told you do not worry about rain. Nothing I've said is false. You know very well what is coming. Even a chicken size brain can see this, unless the eyes are closed.

Open your eyes bro. Who is the aggréssivé. Who is attacking countries in the world? Who has thousand bâsés across the world? Has 1rân âttâcked anybody? Has 1rân âttâcked any country? We want justice for all. Not justice for some and injustice for the others. But the aggréssor want justice for Zìönìst and injustice to the rest.
Nandwa
#115 Posted : Thursday, November 17, 2016 4:46:32 PM
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AlphDoti wrote:
Nandwa wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Nandwa wrote:

By the way @nandwa, the attack on Iran is not meant to knock out Iran... not at all!
The attack on Iran is meant to provoke a series of wars which are going to last for some time. Cities are going to be attacked... the supply of food, the food chain will be interfered, water... You are talking about rain, forget rain, I wonder how are you going to survive in the city when this happens and you cannot get food? You will have the money to buy the food, but the food will not be there. Because the food is delivered from outside of the city. Food is not grown in the city... Water comes to you from outside...

Tighten your belt bro... this is a planned demolition of humanity... It's mega térrorìsm...

If you feed youth with these kinds of baseless propaganda in Mosques, any wonder what follows!

@Nandwa, I'm just warning you. You were talking about rain, and I told you do not worry about rain. Nothing I've said is false. You know very well what is coming. Even a chicken size brain can see this, unless the eyes are closed.

Open your eyes bro. Who is the aggréssivé. Who is attacking countries in the world? Who has thousand bâsés across the world? Has 1rân âttâcked anybody? Has 1rân âttâcked any country? We want justice for all. Not justice for some and injustice for the others. But the aggréssor want justice for Zìönìst and injustice to the rest.


The article quoted above is about specific Arab countries expressing concern over Iran's behavior.
You choose to overlook that to introduce the usual conspiracy theories!


Just as absolute power corrupts leaders, so does absolute fanaticism blind the people from logic
Nandwa
#116 Posted : Thursday, November 24, 2016 4:35:29 PM
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Just as absolute power corrupts leaders, so does absolute fanaticism blind the people from logic
Nandwa
#117 Posted : Thursday, November 24, 2016 7:08:31 PM
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The article quoted a fabricated World Health Organisation spokesperson as saying that after last year’s pilgrimage more than 169 Iraqi women became pregnant out of wedlock.
The UN’s health agency almost immediately refuted the allegation noting: “claim that this information was released by a WHO headquarters communications officer is completely erroneous”.
Just as absolute power corrupts leaders, so does absolute fanaticism blind the people from logic
Nandwa
#118 Posted : Monday, February 20, 2017 12:33:17 PM
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Iran cries foul - Sunni collaborating with Israel to undercut the Shiite Nation

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Tehran (AFP) - Iran on Monday criticised what it said was coordination between Israel and regional rival Saudi Arabia, describing attempts to create an "international atmosphere" against Tehran.
Foreign ministry spokesman Bahram Ghasemi said the two countries "imagine they can compensate for their numerous defeats and failures in the region by creating an international atmosphere against our country."
The alignment is "not accidental", he was quoted as saying by the official IRNA news agency.
Israel and Saudi Arabia accuse Iran of fuelling regional conflicts by supporting armed Shiite movements in Syria, Iraq, Yemen and Bahrain.
Iran rejects the accusations and says Riyadh must stop its support for Sunni "terrorists" like the Islamic State group and Al-Qaeda.
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu visited Washington last week and said there were now "broader conditions for broad peace in the Middle East between Israel and the Arab countries".

Just as absolute power corrupts leaders, so does absolute fanaticism blind the people from logic
Anti_Burglar
#119 Posted : Tuesday, February 21, 2017 10:23:08 AM
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Nandwa wrote:




This is a most ridiculous messages and its fortunate and well deserved that it has been overtaken by events.

With hindsight, do we now hear of atrocities that "happened" in that Allepo? Just 4 months after that video was done surely evidence ought to be piling! Surely there ought to be lotsa evidence whoops .... WMD in Iraq are yet to be found!

Save Allepo! This kind of CNN garbage is funny yet irksome. Blood thirsty Islamic jihadists facing a whopping on the battlefield from a secular government release such timely video on MSM and the shepple said amen!
AlphDoti
#120 Posted : Wednesday, February 22, 2017 11:26:00 AM
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masukuma wrote:
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Bear in mind though, that Iran is in bad books with the UN, and is subject to sanctions as a result of excesses on the military front.
Again Israel feels more threatened by Iran and its proxies than the Sunni nations.

Of course Saudi's tacit support for ISIS is objectionable, but so is Iran's overt support for Hezbollah.
Remember the two Iranian terrorist arrested in Kenya not too long ago. The Govt in Tehran showed sympathy towards them.

Iran will play an increasingly larger role in that region Israel ipende isipende... Why? They managed to arm twist the US into a sane agreement on nukes.
Shida za Israel ni za Israel. Actually, Hezbollah can be considered freedom fighters if you ask me. Speaking for myself and Kenya... Sunnis have caused more problems for us. I suspect those iranians had no business with us but rather the occupants of that highly fortified place huko community. So if Iran can keep Saudi busy and engaged waachane na the nasty "Al"s - the better. Unlike Saudia - Iran seems more modern and while playing hardball is not nutty to the extent of not educating it's citizenry.

All the others bowed down to the his highness... It's only Iran that has stood up to them. NOTE: I'm talking about Iran as a country, not in any other aspect.
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