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The KenolKobil 2015 pendulum
mlennyma
#1061 Posted : Wednesday, November 16, 2016 10:32:03 AM
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Ericsson wrote:
Shell says on Sunday 20th November they will sell v-power at the price of unleaded

they are bankrupt of ideas resulting to copy paste model
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heri
#1062 Posted : Wednesday, November 16, 2016 10:36:42 AM
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mlennyma wrote:
heri wrote:
http://www.kenolkobil.com/uploads/1/3/3/9/13398397/kenolkobil_update_-_october_2016.pdf

this could be the genesis of the big buy orders of high networth investors who pass through kestrel capital


Estimated EPS of 2.59 for FY17
Aguytrying
#1063 Posted : Wednesday, November 16, 2016 8:21:14 PM
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heri wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
heri wrote:
http://www.kenolkobil.com/uploads/1/3/3/9/13398397/kenolkobil_update_-_october_2016.pdf

this could be the genesis of the big buy orders of high networth investors who pass through kestrel capital


Estimated EPS of 2.59 for FY17


What gives great confidence is that 20 is within reach by 2018. Why not. Just slap a decent pe to eps. Election dust settles.

This share is a very good example of why I stopped timing shares. In speculators scripts we should be below 9.00 especially in bear market that makes sense. But no, it's the opposite here. Let's keep going. I'm seeing 13 being breached soon. I'd this demand keeps up
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VituVingiSana
#1064 Posted : Wednesday, November 16, 2016 8:44:46 PM
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Though 2017 is only 45 days away, I'd like to concentrate on FY 2016 but look at 1H 2017.

1) The drop in oil prices over the past 10 days underscores Ohana's smarts in reading where the price was headed. Perhaps *Mossad* told him that OPEC isn't walking the talk. Iran wants to pump more to get to pre-sanctions production. Venezuela needs the $. As does Nigeria and Angola.

2) Russia has its own agenda re: production. They (consortium with Trafigura) bought Essar's refinery in India beating out the Saudis. I think they want a chunk of India's growing market. Kenya imports refined fuels from India, Singapore and the Middle East. Competition is good.

3) With lower costs, a lot more US Shale can be profitably produced at $50/bbl. That puts a lid on prices. Trump is likely to support a pipeline from Canada [this is 2020+] but it also helps cap prices that OPEC wants.

4) With lower USD interest rates, KK can profit from the savings.

5) More KK stations. More outlets means it is easier for motorists to fuel up.

6) More LPG. Ohana talked about the growing LPG demand. GoK reduced taxes/duties on LPG. LPG has replaced charcoal in many houses/apartments. Then there's a lube blending plant [but 2018].

7) Vehicles are becoming more efficient BUT fuel volumes are growing as more Kenyans buy cars/lorries as the economy grows. I expect a slowdown in 2017 but the "demand" will come through after the (hopefully peaceful) elections.
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mlennyma
#1065 Posted : Wednesday, November 16, 2016 8:56:51 PM
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This share will be very scarce in 2018,the improved fortunes and the earlier price stagnation has hardened those who own it
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VituVingiSana
#1066 Posted : Wednesday, November 16, 2016 9:30:02 PM
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mlennyma wrote:
This share will be very scarce in 2018,the improved fortunes and the earlier price stagnation has hardened those who own it

Unless someone sells for "other" reasons, I think the speculators have been shaken out. Most of those who remain are hardcore investors.

I am sure KK will come under speculative attack that will cause the price to rise rapidly but as long as Ohana produces results & ceteris paribus, the price has a floor.

Like @Aguy ... I think 20 is do-able by late 2018 assuming we don't have a repeat of PEV 2008.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
mlennyma
#1067 Posted : Wednesday, November 16, 2016 9:34:13 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
This share will be very scarce in 2018,the improved fortunes and the earlier price stagnation has hardened those who own it

Unless someone sells for "other" reasons, I think the speculators have been shaken out. Most of those who remain are hardcore investors.

I am sure KK will come under speculative attack that will cause the price to rise rapidly but as long as Ohana produces results & ceteris paribus, the price has a floor.

Like @Aguy ... I think 20 is do-able by late 2018 assuming we don't have a repeat of PEV 2008.

Applause meanwhile dividend is guaranteed
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mlennyma
#1068 Posted : Wednesday, November 16, 2016 10:20:26 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
This share will be very scarce in 2018,the improved fortunes and the earlier price stagnation has hardened those who own it

Unless someone sells for "other" reasons, I think the speculators have been shaken out. Most of those who remain are hardcore investors.

I am sure KK will come under speculative attack that will cause the price to rise rapidly but as long as Ohana produces results & ceteris paribus, the price has a floor.

Like @Aguy ... I think 20 is do-able by late 2018 assuming we don't have a repeat of PEV 2008.

what is the progress of that mombasa 1.5billion lubricant plant with castrol?
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VituVingiSana
#1069 Posted : Thursday, November 17, 2016 5:09:50 AM
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mlennyma wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
This share will be very scarce in 2018,the improved fortunes and the earlier price stagnation has hardened those who own it

Unless someone sells for "other" reasons, I think the speculators have been shaken out. Most of those who remain are hardcore investors.

I am sure KK will come under speculative attack that will cause the price to rise rapidly but as long as Ohana produces results & ceteris paribus, the price has a floor.

Like @Aguy ... I think 20 is do-able by late 2018 assuming we don't have a repeat of PEV 2008.

what is the progress of that mombasa 1.5billion lubricant plant with castrol?
I think that's a post-election [completion FY 2018] project. Who wants to bother investing in Kenya for a NEW project until the elections are done and dusted?

http://www.standardmedia...o-build-lubricant-plant 15th Aug 2016

In the short-term, the depreciation of the ZAR vs KES, would have made the plant less attractive (vs direct imports) but as a long-term investment, I think KK should go with the lube plant instead of building a HQ.

Lubricants/greases are used for many industrial applications eg turbines, motors, etc so there's a lot of scope if KK produces what's needed.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Realtreaty
#1070 Posted : Thursday, November 17, 2016 11:07:41 AM
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Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Bando tunakunywa mafuta kwa bei nafuu kupitia KK
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