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#321 Posted : Monday, November 14, 2016 8:51:51 PM
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kaka2za wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Just wondering why 'we' are pushing our troops out of SS over a 'simple' issue, while remaining in 'complex' Somalia!!!


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Obi 1 Kanobi
#322 Posted : Tuesday, November 15, 2016 10:11:16 AM
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masukuma wrote:
Noticed something... the fellow was called Lt-Gen Johnson Mogoa Kimani Ondieki. The people defending his firing call him Ondieki... the ones beefing about kenya leaving SS call him Kimani.


This is a major problem, we need a name that betrays so we can select the right goggles to comment withLaughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
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whiteowl
#323 Posted : Tuesday, November 15, 2016 10:28:17 AM
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It would be suicidal for the peacekeeping force to take on the army of a host country.Nobody else to blame other than the SS army.
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mkenyan
#324 Posted : Tuesday, November 15, 2016 10:42:52 AM
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whiteowl wrote:
It would be suicidal for the peacekeeping force to take on the army of a host country.Nobody else to blame other than the SS army.

wasn't this a rogue faction of the ss army? and what is the role of the un forces in such a situation if not to protect civilians?
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Obi 1 Kanobi
#325 Posted : Tuesday, November 15, 2016 11:03:27 AM
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whiteowl wrote:
It would be suicidal for the peacekeeping force to take on the army of a host country.Nobody else to blame other than the SS army.


What is your understanding of peacekeeping?

Feels sorry for our General though, he ordered the chinese, nepalese and I don't know which other country's army to respond but they refused.

He is being crucified and rightly so coz "asiyekuwepo haangukiwi na mti". Wrong place at wrong time.
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kaka2za
#326 Posted : Tuesday, November 15, 2016 1:00:16 PM
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
whiteowl wrote:
It would be suicidal for the peacekeeping force to take on the army of a host country.Nobody else to blame other than the SS army.


What is your understanding of peacekeeping?

Feels sorry for our General though, he ordered the chinese, nepalese and I don't know which other country's army to respond but they refused.

He is being crucified and rightly so coz "asiyekuwepo haangukiwi na mti". Wrong place at wrong time.


Nobody was sacked for failing to protect citizens during the Rwanda genocide but again no Americans were hurt.
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whiteowl
#327 Posted : Tuesday, November 15, 2016 1:54:23 PM
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mkenyan wrote:
whiteowl wrote:
It would be suicidal for the peacekeeping force to take on the army of a host country.Nobody else to blame other than the SS army.

wasn't this a rogue faction of the ss army? and what is the role of the un forces in such a situation if not to protect civilians?


They werent rogue but I guess we have to wait for the SS to investigate itself and tell us if they were.We can talk about the responsibility of the UN force but this area is controlled by SS army.They outgun and outnumber everybody else so if they decide to attack you nobody will come save you.
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Obi 1 Kanobi
#328 Posted : Tuesday, November 15, 2016 3:02:38 PM
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whiteowl wrote:
mkenyan wrote:
whiteowl wrote:
It would be suicidal for the peacekeeping force to take on the army of a host country.Nobody else to blame other than the SS army.

wasn't this a rogue faction of the ss army? and what is the role of the un forces in such a situation if not to protect civilians?


They werent rogue but I guess we have to wait for the SS to investigate itself and tell us if they were.We can talk about the responsibility of the UN force but this area is controlled by SS army.They outgun and outnumber everybody else so if they decide to attack you nobody will come save you.


Who has real control of this Army, I get the feeling that president Kiir does not have total control of his forces, otherwise he would not have allowed this kind of behavior.
"The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
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chemirocha
#329 Posted : Tuesday, November 15, 2016 3:21:52 PM
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
whiteowl wrote:
mkenyan wrote:
whiteowl wrote:
It would be suicidal for the peacekeeping force to take on the army of a host country.Nobody else to blame other than the SS army.

wasn't this a rogue faction of the ss army? and what is the role of the un forces in such a situation if not to protect civilians?


They werent rogue but I guess we have to wait for the SS to investigate itself and tell us if they were.We can talk about the responsibility of the UN force but this area is controlled by SS army.They outgun and outnumber everybody else so if they decide to attack you nobody will come save you.


Who has real control of this Army, I get the feeling that president Kiir does not have total control of his forces, otherwise he would not have allowed this kind of behavior.


Loyalties in the national army are split along tribal lines and the hard line generals.
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Angelica _ann
#330 Posted : Tuesday, November 15, 2016 3:47:04 PM
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chemirocha wrote:
Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
whiteowl wrote:
mkenyan wrote:
whiteowl wrote:
It would be suicidal for the peacekeeping force to take on the army of a host country.Nobody else to blame other than the SS army.

wasn't this a rogue faction of the ss army? and what is the role of the un forces in such a situation if not to protect civilians?


They werent rogue but I guess we have to wait for the SS to investigate itself and tell us if they were.We can talk about the responsibility of the UN force but this area is controlled by SS army.They outgun and outnumber everybody else so if they decide to attack you nobody will come save you.


Who has real control of this Army, I get the feeling that president Kiir does not have total control of his forces, otherwise he would not have allowed this kind of behavior.


Loyalties in the national army are split along tribal lines and the hard line generals.

Majority of high ranking army generals (remember they became generals through thuggery during the war and not formal army command ranking) are remnants of Garang who feel nothing for Kiir!!!
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