hamburglar wrote:Mercedes Benz, BMW and VW have manufacturing plants in Germany, a developed country. Toyota, Nissan, etc have plants in Japan, a developed country. If those countries can sustain auto manufacturing and provide gainful employment to their citizens, then Americans can also hope that their government (Trump) should be able to find a way to bring back manufacturing jobs and provide gainful employment to its citizens.
The BIG 3 provided a lot of jobs to people in the 90's and early 2000 and they were still profitable. The midwest was very vibrant and cities in the rust belt were very progressive. Then American companies became greedy and wanted to quadruple their profits at the expense of regular Joe. That's what Americans are angry about and they believe that Trump might just be the right person to right that ship. People feel that Trump is all about America and could care less about Syria and Iran and Mexico and all those other places that American politicians needlessly worry about while their own people are languishing in unemployment and other social issues.
These same cars that you are saying would be unaffordable if they were manufactured in the US were very affordable 15 years ago and those companies still made profits. They are affordable in Japan and Germany and the companies are still very much profitable.
If it worked then, it can still work now. That's what the Midwesterners believe. If companies (read CEO's and executives) would stop being so greedy and realize that making hundreds of millions in salary at the expense of whole cities is wrong, then maybe we can get manufacturing back in the US.
Not every part of America can be like Lowell or Silicon Valley. We can't have every city trying to be the tech hub of the country otherwise America will starve to death. We need cities like Oxnard California to plant fruits and provide employment to the citizens who don't have the skills to found a Facebook or a I need an answer by next week Monday otherwise we proceed with the court case.
Humbaglar, I agree with you that Americans used to be good in manufacturing.
The keyword here is USED TO BE.
They shall never be as efficient as the Germans or the Japanese.
http://www.autonews.com/...d-according-to-bob-lutz
Read that as it explains what ails the manufacturing industry.
They can't compete in the global market. It's that simple. A president of a country cannot make a more efficient manufacturing plant. The lazy american worker cannot be compared to a German worker. That's just a fact.
Quote:American Auto Industry Executives went to Congress and demanded that import quotas be implemented to reduce the Japanese Auto Imports. All to get the American Auto Industry breathing room to get back on its feet. If not implemented the American Auto Industry was done for forever. The Japanese Auto Industry entered into the "Voluntary Restraint Agreement" for Japanese imports. What this did was to give Japanese Auto Industry the means to drive up the prices for their cars, while that actual costs to produce the cars were unchanged. This meant the higher prices they were setting due to lower supply was pure profit. The Japanese Auto Industry had the greatest gift any corporation could ask for, the ability to set the unchallenged profit from each item produced. They double the price and increase their profit not by 10% or 20% but 5 to 10 times their normal profit margins.
Quote:Some readers might point to computers as similar in the above regard, but unlike the Big Three, Silicon Valley’s technology firms have long outsourced the manufacture of their technologies overseas. When Apple AAPL -0.11% Inc. puts out ads about how its goods are ‘designed in California,’ the tech giant is speaking volumes about Detroit’s problems.
Put simply, Michigan and its city most known for the rise of the automobile clung to a business – car manufacturing – that was long ago rendered yesterday’s commercial news. And just as Silicon Valley would be destitute too if its companies used limited U.S. labor to manufacture computers that anyone can make, Detroit is bankrupt because its biggest employers still manufacture – as opposed to simply design – cars that anyone can make.
The mainstream punditry will talk about unions, crime and high taxes as the causes of Detroit’s bankruptcy, but the real answer is rooted in something far more basic: cars are easy to make, and Detroit’s biggest employers make cars. Detroit will revitalize itself once its biggest employers migrate toward that which isn’t so simple.
It's not that Americans cannot manufacture, they just can't compete. And sorry to say, they won't.
Everything has been tried to save this industries, quotas, trade restrictions, gov't bailouts, killing unions. The industries just aren't profitable. Everytime they think they have solved a problem, the other countries do it much better.
When will americans accept, they are not as good as they think they are?
My friend, I'm hundred percent sure that 90% of the users on wazua have a phone that is not made in america. However great that iPhone is, you still stick to Samsung, Infinix, Tecno etc. Why?
Ship the jobs back to the US for that Iphone and all of a sudden you won't bother buying a phone at 30% more when you can get the same thing from Infinix.
There are what we call imaginations of perfection and then there's reality.
They are not as efficient as other countries and Trump cannot make them more efficient however Bigly he thinks.
Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?