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US Elections, Hillary or Trump?
Anti_Burglar
#1081 Posted : Wednesday, November 09, 2016 2:09:20 PM
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hardwood wrote:
Trump is best for global peace. No nuclear war in the foreseeable future.





That was my hope. With Trump at least there exists a shot, a possibility, a chance at not having war. With Hillary, war was assured - she has vast experience in it.
masukuma
#1082 Posted : Wednesday, November 09, 2016 2:17:45 PM
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the popular vote is at 47.6% FOR BOTH. The pollsters were not "off". They just misread the midwest!
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Anti_Burglar
#1083 Posted : Wednesday, November 09, 2016 2:20:42 PM
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masukuma wrote:
hamburglar wrote:
Hillary's mistake was going up and down the Midwest denigrating Trump's character to desperate people who had lost their jobs. Trump on the other hand told them what they wanted to hear. Trump promised to bring back the BIG 3 (Chrysler, Ford and GM) back to the Midwestern states. Ever since the auto industry collapsed in these States, these people have had to endure so much heartache. They had to walk out of their homes and watch their houses go into foreclosures, lose their sons and daughters to gun crime and drugs because of the poverty that was created, move to other States where they were not welcome and didn't have the neccessary skills to fit into the job markets there (most of these people had been in the auto industry their whole lives). I know so many people from Detroit who are bitter at how their lives took a downward spiral after the BIG 3 left.

Point is, these people don't really care how many women's genitals Trump has grabbed, they don't care if he refused to reveal his tax returns, they just want their jobs back so that they can go back to their homes and raise their families in a dignified manner.

When a person is desperate, they really don't care about politics, they just want to be given an opportunity to be productive. Trump promised them that. Hillary didn't. That was the difference. Nothing else mattered really. Not immigration, or even national security, the promise to bring back the BIG three and all the factories in Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin and West Pennsylvania won the day. If you look clearly, all the other States voted exactly like they were projected to vote, the only surprises were those four states which have traditionally been part of the Blue wall.

In other words, Hillary forgot to fix her house first before going to meddle in Syria and Libya and promising Illegal aliens path to citizenship and other goodies while her own citizens are wallowing in despair because their jobs were taken away. I believe Trump will make the Midwest great again. In three years, the BIG three and all it's affiliates will be back. People's livelihoods will always trump politics. Pun intended.

excellent elaboration... he knew where to press. You see, rural jobs used to be based around one big local business -- a factory, a coal mine, etc. When the business dies, the town dies.. The new business and jobs were occurring elsewhere.

the big 3 left and everyone suffered. Hillary did not have her finger on the pulse of the these regions. For them this was bread and butter issue. 60% of the voters disapprove of trump but they voted for him why? he had an answer for them...an answer for their issues at home.



But Masukuma, Obama and the democrats had his finger on the pulse just 8 years ago and so I think it a stretch to imagine that Hillary and the democrats did not have their fingers on the pulse 8 years later. Unless they failed to deliver .... I agree with Hamburglar. She thought it was a done deal and chose to talk about Putin, nuclear codes, Syria and so on even genitals.
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#1084 Posted : Wednesday, November 09, 2016 2:22:24 PM
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hamburglar wrote:
Voters just flat out rejected Hillary. This election has been more or less a landslide victory for the Donald. Even Colorado would have been Red had it not been for all the pot head liberals who have recently moved there from California in large numbers and made it lean Democrat. Even a New England State (Maine) has given Trump one electoral vote, something that's never been seen since Reagan. Democrats should go back to the drawing board and rethink their strategy. Fronting Hillary and playing politics with the Midwesterners livelihoods was a very bad idea.


True that!
masukuma
#1085 Posted : Wednesday, November 09, 2016 2:30:44 PM
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Anti_Burglar wrote:

But Masukuma, Obama and the democrats had his finger on the pulse just 8 years ago and so I think it a stretch to imagine that Hillary and the democrats did not have their fingers on the pulse 8 years later. Unless they failed to deliver .... I agree with Hamburglar. She thought it was a done deal and chose to talk about Putin, nuclear codes, Syria and so on even genitals.

Yes... but you need to look at what had happened then. the credit crisis, the housing crisis. There was no way a republican president would have come in. Plus Obama was almost like Trump then... HOPE! a noob! Republicans could only try and attack his character , accusing him of non bread and butter issues (alizaliwa wapi? Ni Muslim/Arab)... I see a parallel.
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masukuma
#1086 Posted : Wednesday, November 09, 2016 2:33:01 PM
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meanwhile the popular vote difference is slashed to 24k and California has counted 63%
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mouraythee
#1087 Posted : Wednesday, November 09, 2016 2:37:39 PM
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wa P wrote:
mouraythee wrote:
Where's @alma1 with his "I'm in America and you're not" bull. Mainstreamers I hope the egg on your faces is warm and slimy enough!


Careful sir. We might not have prezzo trump after all.

I hope and pray that God will see him through till he is sworn in. Obama and his ilk better not have something nasty up their sleeves.
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masukuma
#1088 Posted : Wednesday, November 09, 2016 2:40:26 PM
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masukuma wrote:
meanwhile the popular vote difference is slashed to 24k and California has counted 63%

actually - she has overtaken him! good number of votes in the wrong places.
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Anti_Burglar
#1089 Posted : Wednesday, November 09, 2016 2:43:28 PM
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masukuma wrote:
Anti_Burglar wrote:

But Masukuma, Obama and the democrats had his finger on the pulse just 8 years ago and so I think it a stretch to imagine that Hillary and the democrats did not have their fingers on the pulse 8 years later. Unless they failed to deliver .... I agree with Hamburglar. She thought it was a done deal and chose to talk about Putin, nuclear codes, Syria and so on even genitals.

Yes... but you need to look at what had happened then. the credit crisis, the housing crisis. There was no way a republican president would have come in. Plus Obama was almost like Trump then... HOPE! a noob! Republicans could only try and attack his character , accusing him of non bread and butter issues (alizaliwa wapi? Ni Muslim/Arab)... I see a parallel.


Indeed there is a parallel! That then democrats thought Hillary rather than Bernie could carry the day then is just incredible and unfathomable. And then you say she got good number of votes but in the wrong places ..... what could she get right? Our welfare?
masukuma
#1090 Posted : Wednesday, November 09, 2016 2:57:03 PM
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Anti_Burglar wrote:
masukuma wrote:
Anti_Burglar wrote:

But Masukuma, Obama and the democrats had his finger on the pulse just 8 years ago and so I think it a stretch to imagine that Hillary and the democrats did not have their fingers on the pulse 8 years later. Unless they failed to deliver .... I agree with Hamburglar. She thought it was a done deal and chose to talk about Putin, nuclear codes, Syria and so on even genitals.

Yes... but you need to look at what had happened then. the credit crisis, the housing crisis. There was no way a republican president would have come in. Plus Obama was almost like Trump then... HOPE! a noob! Republicans could only try and attack his character , accusing him of non bread and butter issues (alizaliwa wapi? Ni Muslim/Arab)... I see a parallel.


Indeed there is a parallel! That then democrats thought Hillary rather than Bernie could carry the day then is just incredible and unfathomable. And then you say she got good number of votes but in the wrong places ..... what could she get right? Our welfare?

I am saying she has the POPULAR VOTE (58,879,687) compared to TRUMP's (58,855,128) but these extra votes are 'votes in the wrong places' hawawezi msaidia... wamejazana West Coast!
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Obi 1 Kanobi
#1091 Posted : Wednesday, November 09, 2016 2:57:54 PM
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masukuma wrote:
the popular vote is at 47.6% FOR BOTH. The pollsters were not "off". They just misread the midwest!

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Since when does anyone care about popular votes in the US. Its always about 10 or so swing states!!!

They mis-called it by a mile.
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masukuma
#1092 Posted : Wednesday, November 09, 2016 3:04:04 PM
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
masukuma wrote:
the popular vote is at 47.6% FOR BOTH. The pollsters were not "off". They just misread the midwest!

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Since when does anyone care about popular votes in the US. Its always about 10 or so swing states!!!

They mis-called it by a mile.

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly it's all academic i guess. We read polls the way we wanted... people saw +2% and called it and used it as a brick. Then built a house on top of shaky bricks. POTUS45 TRUMP! He just did what was needed to make him win. sasa ni #MAGA, #LockHerUp #DrainTheSwamp - kazi kwake. Poor china and India
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TAZ
#1093 Posted : Wednesday, November 09, 2016 3:38:46 PM
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masukuma wrote:
Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
masukuma wrote:
the popular vote is at 47.6% FOR BOTH. The pollsters were not "off". They just misread the midwest!

Quit manLaughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

Since when does anyone care about popular votes in the US. Its always about 10 or so swing states!!!

They mis-called it by a mile.

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly it's all academic i guess. We read polls the way we wanted... people saw +2% and called it and used it as a brick. Then built a house on top of shaky bricks. POTUS45 TRUMP! He just did what was needed to make him win. sasa ni #MAGA, #LockHerUp #DrainTheSwamp - kazi kwake. Poor china and India


The Reuters/Ipsos States of the Nation project gave Hillary Clinton a 90% chance of defeating Republican Donald Trump in the race for the White House....The peopel who carried out that survey should be whipped in public.

ION, Voters also approved Recreational Marijuana in California, Maine, Nevada and Massachusetts.
Lolest!
#1094 Posted : Wednesday, November 09, 2016 3:43:23 PM
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Californian Exit (Calexit)?

Now an idea about a different sort of separation has caught fire on social media. Liberal-minded Californians are arguing that their heavily Democratic state should think about breaking away from the rest of the country.

Many of the messages point to the size of the state’s economy and argue that California could easily go it alone.

http://www.bbc.com/news/...lection-us-2016-37899679
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masukuma
#1095 Posted : Wednesday, November 09, 2016 3:45:27 PM
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TAZ wrote:


The Reuters/Ipsos States of the Nation project gave Hillary Clinton a 90% chance of defeating Republican Donald Trump in the race for the White House....The peopel who carried out that survey should be whipped in public.

it's a house built on shaky polls. Pole kwake! she just miscalculated. Ati hakuwa ameenda the Badger State since primaries coz ilikuwa mfuko! Pole kwake...
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masukuma
#1096 Posted : Wednesday, November 09, 2016 3:49:08 PM
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Lolest! wrote:
Quote:

Californian Exit (Calexit)?

Now an idea about a different sort of separation has caught fire on social media. Liberal-minded Californians are arguing that their heavily Democratic state should think about breaking away from the rest of the country.

Many of the messages point to the size of the state’s economy and argue that California could easily go it alone.

http://www.bbc.com/news/...ection-us-2016-37899679

hizi sio mpya... although it was it's Red and slightly smaller brother (Texas) that was used to pulling such moves. Normal election day REACTIONS especially when they are responsible for cranking votes (saa hii wanaongezea Madam kura NYINGI!! but hazitamsaidia). the feel wasted! Texas used to feel the same najua this time around watakuwa wamenyamaza. Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
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#1097 Posted : Wednesday, November 09, 2016 4:10:03 PM
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hardwood wrote:
Hehehe...flash back when President Trump appeared on WWE Wrestle-Mania for the "Battle of the Billionaires" against Vince McMohan. He defeated Vince McMohan and even shaved his head as part of the bet. Trump has been winning since time immemorial. People should realize that Trump has been a celebrity.


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly I envy the americans, they have a superstar president
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#1098 Posted : Wednesday, November 09, 2016 4:12:33 PM
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hardwood wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
It's all over. Mr Insanity will be President


@Masukuma, alma, harrydre should be put on suicide watch. They may seriously harm themselves.Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly


I am still alive he he

It was all about white-lash. Trump made the white uneducated man feel left out. Can he deliver the promises he made to them in this era of globalization? Time will tell.

https://www.yahoo.com/ne...-country-074323524.html
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#1099 Posted : Wednesday, November 09, 2016 4:16:25 PM
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masukuma wrote:
TAZ wrote:


The Reuters/Ipsos States of the Nation project gave Hillary Clinton a 90% chance of defeating Republican Donald Trump in the race for the White House....The peopel who carried out that survey should be whipped in public.

it's a house built on shaky polls. Pole kwake! she just miscalculated. Ati hakuwa ameenda the Badger State since primaries coz ilikuwa mfuko! Pole kwake...



Silent trump vote came in. 47% vs 47% that's a half divided nation and most of Bernie's millenials and blacks didn't vote
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#1100 Posted : Wednesday, November 09, 2016 4:19:01 PM
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after embarrassing him like that, he will have to hand over power to him. life

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