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hardwood
#141 Posted : Thursday, November 03, 2016 5:41:57 PM
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Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
alma1 wrote:
murchr wrote:
Am glad Wazuans are now seeing the light. Will those who were calling me names and I mean @alma apologize pronto. Dont be rushing to believe these makaratazi of kufunga nyama most of these writers never verify the gibberish they write.

Remember: He who pays the piper calls the tune


You have to be specific about what I'm apologising for.

Did I say she stole? Nope and leave your documentation here.

Did I say she was responsible...Hell yeah!
Did I say she should be fired....Hell yeah!

And those things have not changed at all.

I know the words "hiyo sio kazi yangu" are common here but heck, responsibility is very important.

All I have seen today is someone producing evidence that she was not involved in the stealing. The theft that you murchr said did not happen.

In fact you should apologise.

It's very clear to me that she knew there was stealing and for 14 months at a minimum did nothing about it.


Now if you expect me to apologise for saying she should have been fired, utangoja sana.

If you have CS's who cannot know billions are being stolen in their dockets, what the hell do we have CS's for?

As for the thieves, let's hope they all turn on each other. This committee could be one of the best things to happen in Kenya. Let them show more.


She is the one who called the CID after she became aware of the scandal and then the gangs turned against her. The gangs wanted the matter sorted internally without involving the CID.
murchr
#142 Posted : Thursday, November 03, 2016 5:52:11 PM
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Joined: 2/26/2012
Posts: 15,980
masukuma wrote:
hardwood wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:
Yaani PS Mangiti has been left alone kwa mataa ?

Hope Dr. Mailu is watching this. He Will be the next on that seat after we all exclaim how smart Dr. Muraguri is in a year's time.

Again I ask, why do you join govt if you are not thug ?


The PS is the accounting officer. The buck stops with him.

If we teach people never to sign for stuff "under instruction" bila trail we shall not have these things happening. A friend of mine is having problems coz he was instructed to give accreditation to to some stranger into a data center... halafu kikaumana Boss akamruka now the fellow is suspended under police investigation.


Mangiti was in the mix, the phone records indicate that he was aware and was in the loop in communicating with Beth Gethi.

Funny how people didnt know that you can track phone calls, you can track emails etc....... Laughing out loudly
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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alma1
#143 Posted : Thursday, November 03, 2016 5:55:33 PM
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Joined: 9/19/2015
Posts: 2,871
Location: hapo
murchr wrote:
alma1 wrote:
murchr wrote:
Am glad Wazuans are now seeing the light. Will those who were calling me names and I mean @alma apologize pronto. Dont be rushing to believe these makaratazi of kufunga nyama most of these writers never verify the gibberish they write.

Remember: He who pays the piper calls the tune


You have to be specific about what I'm apologising for.

Did I say she stole? Nope and leave your documentation here.

Did I say she was responsible...Hell yeah!
Did I say she should be fired....Hell yeah!

And those things have not changed at all.

I know the words "hiyo sio kazi yangu" are common here but heck, responsibility is very important.

All I have seen today is someone producing evidence that she was not involved in the stealing. The theft that you murchr said did not happen.

In fact you should apologise.

It's very clear to me that she knew there was stealing and for 14 months at a minimum did nothing about it.

Now if you expect me to apologise for saying she should have been fired, utangoja sana.

If you have CS's who cannot know billions are being stolen in their dockets, what the hell do we have CS's for?

As for the thieves, let's hope they all turn on each other. This committee could be one of the best things to happen in Kenya. Let them show more.



alma1 wrote:



I'm the pawn here.

Work me up to a frenzy that URP is finishing Waiguru
Work me up to a frenzy that Waiguru is the thief because she's from that tribe.

Write an affidavit. Take pictures. Have press briefings.

In the meantime, no one is jail

Just another pawn in the politicians arsenal.

I choose to believe none of these people. I'm not their pawn.

Until I see someone jailed, I believe all of them knew what was going and either participated or kept quiet about it.

None of these are my choice of leaders.

If that is moaning, shauri yako. I value my sleep at 4am.




Murchr pole sana, if that poem is your proof that I said that she stole, hahaha.

I've been very consistent. I don't believe any of them.

If its an issue about responsibility, trust me, she would be in my jail by now.

As for who stole, all I have said thus far is that I believe her.

Did you see me saying anywhere that she's innocent?

Please read what I said and not what you think I said.

I'm happy because this committee just opened up my eyes on what actually goes on in these ministries.

As for guilt or innocence, I have too many questions still unanswered. Kwanza that one of firing someone on Friday then hiring someone on Sunday is still open to interpretation.

That new person hired is the same one that she's claiming started the stealing. That hired says she did it.

Please tell me murchr, what is unreasonable with me thinking that both were involved but as thiefs usually do, they got greedy and started selling each other out.

If you think she's clean, that's your perogative. I believe what she said, but that doesn't mean she's innocent.
Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?

hardwood
#144 Posted : Thursday, November 03, 2016 5:56:05 PM
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Joined: 7/28/2015
Posts: 9,562
Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
I have seen these comments elsewhere:smile

Quote:
After watching her presentation i now doubt whether she was involved at all. She had all her claims backed up with relevant evidence. Some committee members looked frustrated and were hanging on petty issues to try hard and put her down.
I think it is the high time Kenyans start wondering why the real thieves can not be caught. Is CORD stealing our money and then blaming it on JUBILEE?



Quote:
Waiguru the people of Kirinyaga will walk with you step by step, don't be discouraged...such is the treatment meted out against whistle blowers like yourself. We owe you a big thank you for exposing the rot at NYS!!
murchr
#145 Posted : Thursday, November 03, 2016 5:58:04 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 2/26/2012
Posts: 15,980
alma1 wrote:
murchr wrote:
alma1 wrote:
murchr wrote:
Am glad Wazuans are now seeing the light. Will those who were calling me names and I mean @alma apologize pronto. Dont be rushing to believe these makaratazi of kufunga nyama most of these writers never verify the gibberish they write.

Remember: He who pays the piper calls the tune


You have to be specific about what I'm apologising for.

Did I say she stole? Nope and leave your documentation here.

Did I say she was responsible...Hell yeah!
Did I say she should be fired....Hell yeah!

And those things have not changed at all.

I know the words "hiyo sio kazi yangu" are common here but heck, responsibility is very important.

All I have seen today is someone producing evidence that she was not involved in the stealing. The theft that you murchr said did not happen.

In fact you should apologise.

It's very clear to me that she knew there was stealing and for 14 months at a minimum did nothing about it.

Now if you expect me to apologise for saying she should have been fired, utangoja sana.

If you have CS's who cannot know billions are being stolen in their dockets, what the hell do we have CS's for?

As for the thieves, let's hope they all turn on each other. This committee could be one of the best things to happen in Kenya. Let them show more.



alma1 wrote:



I'm the pawn here.

Work me up to a frenzy that URP is finishing Waiguru
Work me up to a frenzy that Waiguru is the thief because she's from that tribe.

Write an affidavit. Take pictures. Have press briefings.

In the meantime, no one is jail

Just another pawn in the politicians arsenal.

I choose to believe none of these people. I'm not their pawn.

Until I see someone jailed, I believe all of them knew what was going and either participated or kept quiet about it.

None of these are my choice of leaders.

If that is moaning, shauri yako. I value my sleep at 4am.




Murchr pole sana, if that poem is your proof that I said that she stole, hahaha.

I've been very consistent. I don't believe any of them.

If its an issue about responsibility, trust me, she would be in my jail by now.

As for who stole, all I have said thus far is that I believe her.

Did you see me saying anywhere that she's innocent?

Please read what I said and not what you think I said.

I'm happy because this committee just opened up my eyes on what actually goes on in these ministries.

As for guilt or innocence, I have too many questions still unanswered. Kwanza that one of firing someone on Friday then hiring someone on Sunday is still open to interpretation.

That new person hired is the same one that she's claiming started the stealing. That hired says she did it.

Please tell me murchr, what is unreasonable with me thinking that both were involved but as thiefs usually do, they got greedy and started selling each other out.

If you think she's clean, that's your perogative. I believe what she said, but that doesn't mean she's innocent.


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly I keep proving you wrong
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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FRM2011
#146 Posted : Thursday, November 03, 2016 5:59:24 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 11/5/2010
Posts: 2,459
Fyatu wrote:
hardwood wrote:


Wow, at 5.50 she says the money moved from Kabura -----> Ben Gethi -----> Murkomen + Farouk Kibet. That Murkomen said money was for legal fees.


Waiguru's fixers thought she will go down without a fight.....One thing i have learnt in my short life on earth is never underestimate a woman



150 calls between Gethi and Farouk ????? Do we need any more investigation ?

But waegoro knew what was happening and kept quiet.
murchr
#147 Posted : Thursday, November 03, 2016 6:09:14 PM
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Joined: 2/26/2012
Posts: 15,980
Isn't it funny that we are still talking about this? This discussion took place a year ago

murchr #328 Posted : Tuesday, November 03, 2015 5:28:18 PM wrote:
newfarer wrote:
Hopeless

mobile.nation.co.ke/news/MPs-query-inflated-expenses-in-Anne-Waiguru-office/-/1950946/2941676/-/format/xhtml/-/o9fptu/-/index.html


These inflated expenses are everywhere. The problem is not Waiguru but the procurement departments. Mtatoa Waiguru, muende kwa Matiangi, muende kwa Macharia, after that....counties, si Wheelbarrows ni gari, ni ambulance ama fire engine, these guys (CS and GOV) dont order for these stuff...civil servants collude to bid for tenders hence the inflated prices. then they rush to sell this information to the highest bidder

That procurement laws need to be evaluated. GoK should be buying stuff at the cheapest of prices given that there's a guarantee that they will pay. If the MPigs are serious then they should amend the shoddy law


http://wazua.co.ke/forum...amp;m=692865#post692865


"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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hardwood
#148 Posted : Thursday, November 03, 2016 6:24:25 PM
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Posts: 9,562
Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
She has said cartels linked to Ben Gethi had committed 200m to remove her from office. Same cartels using kabura.
Shak
#149 Posted : Thursday, November 03, 2016 6:31:18 PM
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Joined: 2/22/2009
Posts: 2,449
Location: Africa
hardwood wrote:
She has said cartels linked to Ben Gethi had committed 200m to remove her from office. Same cartels using kabura.

Ben Gethi linked to Farouk Kibet linked to DP. There's nothing on her
murchr
#150 Posted : Thursday, November 03, 2016 6:32:46 PM
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Joined: 2/26/2012
Posts: 15,980
Gumbo is incompetent
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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