Ignoring the Ruto no-ists because theirs is a political succession issue, I am saddened by the fact that so far Christians have refused to part of the give and take without which a new katiba is made. On the issue of abortion, I'd like somebody to ask them whether the mothers' lives are less important than the children they bear.

@muganda bring up the next ones. This abortion thing is not going to change minds. The yeses and nos have decided on this one.

Lete hiyo nyingine.

@Mpenzi, Wendz and chepkel

From my understanding, if one apeals the decision of a Kadhi court, then I thot the case going forward is determined under the Kenyan laws and the Islamic laws are henceforth discarded.

Kenyans love land. Chapter Five is in two parts land and the environment. It seems forests, firewood, crop were in plenty in 1963, the word environment does not exist in the current constitution.



point 11: So the new constitution gives us the first principles of land (not just trust land) in our history as a country.

(60) Land in Kenya shall be held in accordance with principles of equitable access, sustainable and productive management, transparent administration, sound conservation etc.

Gender discrimination in law, customs and practices related to land and property ELIMINATED


(61) All land in Kenya belongs to the people of Kenya; classified as public, community or private

Public land is all minerals and mineral oils as defined by law; all rivers, lakes and other water bodies as defined by act of parliarment; land of which no heir can be identified by any legal land process etc.



point 12: So I saw Agok community on TV complaining about 'Katiba'. Did they have a clue? In current constitution their land is Trust land, alloted by county
councils or the president.
(63) Community land shall vest in and be held by communities identified on the basis of ethnicity, culture or similar community of interest.
Community land shall not be disposed of or otherwise used except in terms of legislation specifying the nature and extent of the rights of members of each community individually and collectively.


point 13: Let's get our land back...
(65) A person who is not a citizen may hold land on the basis of leasehold tenure only, and any such lease, however granted, shall not exceed ninety-nine years.


(67) National Land Commission to manage public land on behalf othe national and county governments; monitor and oversee land use planning throught the country

(68) Parliarment shall revise, consolidate and rationalise existing land laws and enact legislation to prescribe minimum and maximum land holding




point 14: Under Part 2, state now has obligations in respect of conservation of environment and natural resources and equitably sharing accuring benefits.

KUDOS - Tree cover must be at least 10% of land area of Kenya. And we can all demand a right to a clean and health environment as prescribed by our bill of rights


How refreshing!!!

It is my considered opinion that this "katiba" circus begun because folks were disgusted with the (M Oh One) Presidential powers.

The majority of "our" leaders in power today have consistently agitated for the reduction of these persived powers.

Could someone enlighten me (us) on what the current constitution says about the Presidential Powers as opposed to the the Proposed Constitution.

For the record, I have not registered and I do not intend to until after 2012.