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hardwood
#61 Posted : Wednesday, November 02, 2016 11:31:17 AM
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Taurrus wrote:
Dunia ni duara! yani the biggest issue US erections ni Email!!!


Endangering national security, lying under oath, dishonesty and subversion of justice are very serious offenses, and are crimes that would make a candidate banned from running for president even in banana republics. That is how serious that email scandal is.
masukuma
#62 Posted : Wednesday, November 02, 2016 11:40:54 AM
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hardwood wrote:
Taurrus wrote:
Dunia ni duara! yani the biggest issue US erections ni Email!!!


Endangering national security, lying under oath, dishonesty and subversion of justice are very serious offenses, and are crimes that would make a candidate banned from running for president even in banana republics. That is how serious that email scandal is.

What is becoming apparent is that digital systems will be determining leaders going forward... in kenya it's IFMIS, in the US it's emails... hacking of emails...Russians.... not surrendering emails... use of private servers. People will now be communicating using ephemeral messaging! kweli mambo ni digital.. I am waiting for whatsapp to get it's time in the sun (Bro Ochola style)
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Mike Ock
#63 Posted : Wednesday, November 02, 2016 11:49:56 AM
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Tara wrote:
Did you see the part where the lady came to help her locate something in the documents she was looking at and had to turn the book/file around. It looked like it had been upside down.

And why were these people talking over each other and asking multiple questions at the same time? No wonder she was answering what she wanted to answer. They should have divided all the info they had into sections, assigned responsibility of each to one individual, they had that person ask one question at at time until that section was done then move to the next one. They just looked unprofessional.

The purpose of the committee is to make noise, look good on camera and perhaps get a share of the loot to quiet down.
hardwood
#64 Posted : Wednesday, November 02, 2016 11:51:05 AM
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masukuma wrote:
hardwood wrote:
Taurrus wrote:
Dunia ni duara! yani the biggest issue US erections ni Email!!!


Endangering national security, lying under oath, dishonesty and subversion of justice are very serious offenses, and are crimes that would make a candidate banned from running for president even in banana republics. That is how serious that email scandal is.

What is becoming apparent is that digital systems will be determining leaders going forward... in kenya it's IFMIS, in the US it's emails... hacking of emails...Russians.... not surrendering emails... use of private servers. People will now be communicating using ephemeral messaging! kweli mambo ni digital.. I am waiting for whatsapp to get it's time in the sun (Bro Ochola style)


And moving millions in bags "for their own security and peace of mind". Any footprint - email, rtgs etc, is dangerous.
timizo
#65 Posted : Wednesday, November 02, 2016 12:12:32 PM
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Surprised that some suggest that Kabura has no case to answer. Have people forgotten that the NYS was a fraud where zero's were added meaning that Kabura was paid for goods/services that were not delivered. Being a beneficiary, even if she was acting for other people, she cannot get away with it.....only in a banana republic.

Investigations has shown that those withdrawals were actually not physical withdrawals.....She and here accomplices would walk to cashier, have a record of cash deposit and cash withdrawals without money leaving the cashier. And the deposits were to Companies owned by Ben Gethi - a suspect who was already in court for forgery on an IEBC tender. Is this not money laundering?

Investigations has also shown that she had lied on oath....How come people thinks she has done nothing wrong?
masukuma
#66 Posted : Wednesday, November 02, 2016 12:17:14 PM
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bitcoin and ephemeral messaging!! ukipatikana uko peke yako kwa mataa!!
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Shak
#67 Posted : Wednesday, November 02, 2016 12:54:00 PM
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timizo wrote:
Surprised that some suggest that Kabura has no case to answer. Have people forgotten that the NYS was a fraud where zero's were added meaning that Kabura was paid for goods/services that were not delivered. Being a beneficiary, even if she was acting for other people, she cannot get away with it.....only in a banana republic.

Investigations has shown that those withdrawals were actually not physical withdrawals.....She and here accomplices would walk to cashier, have a record of cash deposit and cash withdrawals without money leaving the cashier. And the deposits were to Companies owned by Ben Gethi - a suspect who was already in court for forgery on an IEBC tender. Is this not money laundering?

Investigations has also shown that she had lied on oath....How come people thinks she has done nothing wrong?

Ask hardwood
murchr
#68 Posted : Wednesday, November 02, 2016 2:34:51 PM
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Gathige wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:
My all-time favourite.

Chairman : how did you carry 100 million ?
Josephine : safely.




That's how to answer a clueless committee. Kabura was just a conduit just like Kago, the millionaire driver.


@2012 thinks she was smart. Kago was brought up

Chairman: How do you know Kago a very smart man who came here yesterday

Kabura: I met him and we became friends

Chair: Is he your boyfriend?

Kabura: (Keeps a long silence)

Kareke: So what is the nature of your friendship? You just met him and became friends....just like the way we have become friends and the next time you gave him 60M

Kabura: Smiles and mumbles stuff

Chair: After how long did Kago pay you back?

K: Close to a year, about a year

Chair: Kago said that he paid you after 5 months with an interest of 10% per month

K: Yes, I said close to a year not one year

Melly: So how much in total did Kago give you in the end

K: Silence.....very long

Chair: surely you cant forget the amount you were paid in total by a friend right

K silence....

Mps get irritated esp Mbadi who claimed that the witness is taking them for a ride.

Another one interjects "60M + interest should be about 90M at the end of it all, did you receive 90M"?

K Silence.

Anyone could tell Kabura was coached and everything she said was a lie. Its very funny that she can mention Waiguru's name but not any other person on the scheme. She even claimed that she has never met Ben Gethi, yet evidence shows that she withdrew money from Her accounts to his companies accounts in a matter of minutes.

Chair: The CBK told us that the weight of 100M is like 5 jerrycans of water, can you carry 5 jerrycans of water?

K: Yes

Chair: Madam, you know we can do a prove test here, 5 jerricans can be equiv to 2 bags of cement. Are you ready to demonstrate that?

K: No, I thought you meant a jerrycan of water Shame on you





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masukuma
#69 Posted : Wednesday, November 02, 2016 3:00:29 PM
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murchr wrote:
Gathige wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:
My all-time favourite.

Chairman : how did you carry 100 million ?
Josephine : safely.




That's how to answer a clueless committee. Kabura was just a conduit just like Kago, the millionaire driver.


@2012 thinks she was smart. Kago was brought up

Chairman: How do you know Kago a very smart man who came here yesterday

Kabura: I met him and we became friends

Chair: Is he your boyfriend?

Kabura: (Keeps a long silence)

Kareke: So what is the nature of your friendship? You just met him and became friends....just like the way we have become friends and the next time you gave him 60M

Kabura: Smiles and mumbles stuff

Chair: After how long did Kago pay you back?

K: Close to a year, about a year

Chair: Kago said that he paid you after 5 months with an interest of 10% per month

K: Yes, I said close to a year not one year

Melly: So how much in total did Kago give you in the end

K: Silence.....very long

Chair: surely you cant forget the amount you were paid in total by a friend right

K silence....

Mps get irritated esp Mbadi who claimed that the witness is taking them for a ride.

Another one interjects "60M + interest should be about 90M at the end of it all, did you receive 90M"?

K Silence.

Anyone could tell Kabura was coached and everything she said was a lie. Its very funny that she can mention Waiguru's name but not any other person on the scheme. She even claimed that she has never met Ben Gethi, yet evidence shows that she withdrew money from Her accounts to his companies accounts in a matter of minutes.

Chair: The CBK told us that the weight of 100M is like 5 jerrycans of water, can you carry 5 jerrycans of water?

K: Yes

Chair: Madam, you know we can do a prove test here, 5 jerricans can be equiv to 2 bags of cement. Are you ready to demonstrate that?

K: No, I thought you meant a jerrycan of water Shame on you






yeah- 100m is like 100kgs (assuming 1000 bob note is 1gram).
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Lolest!
#70 Posted : Wednesday, November 02, 2016 3:21:09 PM
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masukuma wrote:
hardwood wrote:
Taurrus wrote:
Dunia ni duara! yani the biggest issue US erections ni Email!!!


Endangering national security, lying under oath, dishonesty and subversion of justice are very serious offenses, and are crimes that would make a candidate banned from running for president even in banana republics. That is how serious that email scandal is.

What is becoming apparent is that digital systems will be determining leaders going forward... in kenya it's IFMIS, in the US it's emails... hacking of emails...Russians.... not surrendering emails... use of private servers. People will now be communicating using ephemeral messaging! kweli mambo ni digital.. I am waiting for whatsapp to get it's time in the sun (Bro Ochola style)

What about the fb saitan app called messenger? It reads our textsSad
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