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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Angelica _ann wrote:murchr wrote:This case, the one of that pitching guy who installed and ERP just shows the procurement system is broken somewhere.
Kabura is/was being used as a conduit. She received contract not just from NYS but lands, sports etc...clearly someone in government was giving these contract.......esp those who civil servants in the procurement dept Let Kabura aende Langata Womens' ili iwe funzo kwa wengine  For what crime? For getting a govt tender and being paid?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Angelica _ann wrote:murchr wrote:This case, the one of that pitching guy who installed and ERP just shows the procurement system is broken somewhere.
Kabura is/was being used as a conduit. She received contract not just from NYS but lands, sports etc...clearly someone in government was giving these contract.......esp those who civil servants in the procurement dept Let Kabura aende Langata Womens' ili iwe funzo kwa wengine Kufungwa ata fungwa but the pipeline needs to be repaired. Wako wengi hawa watu "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/3/2008 Posts: 4,058 Location: Gwitu
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hardwood wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:murchr wrote:This case, the one of that pitching guy who installed and ERP just shows the procurement system is broken somewhere.
Kabura is/was being used as a conduit. She received contract not just from NYS but lands, sports etc...clearly someone in government was giving these contract.......esp those who civil servants in the procurement dept Let Kabura aende Langata Womens' ili iwe funzo kwa wengine For what crime? For getting a govt tender and being paid? She never sought any tender. The only documents she got were LPOs. I liked the part about carrying 52M to the quarry. I will be loitering in the quarries now. Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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murchr wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:murchr wrote:This case, the one of that pitching guy who installed and ERP just shows the procurement system is broken somewhere.
Kabura is/was being used as a conduit. She received contract not just from NYS but lands, sports etc...clearly someone in government was giving these contract.......esp those who civil servants in the procurement dept Let Kabura aende Langata Womens' ili iwe funzo kwa wengine Kufungwa ata fungwa but the pipeline needs to be repaired. Wako wengi hawa watu If Nakumatt contracts you to supply their stores with sukuma wiki, and then issues arise regarding payments, then it is the Nakumatt finance officer who should answer any audit questions or kufungwa, not the supplier.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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kaka2za wrote:hardwood wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:murchr wrote:This case, the one of that pitching guy who installed and ERP just shows the procurement system is broken somewhere.
Kabura is/was being used as a conduit. She received contract not just from NYS but lands, sports etc...clearly someone in government was giving these contract.......esp those who civil servants in the procurement dept Let Kabura aende Langata Womens' ili iwe funzo kwa wengine For what crime? For getting a govt tender and being paid? She never sought any tender. The only documents she got were LPOs. I liked the part about carrying 52M to the quarry. I will be loitering in the quarries now. There's nothing wrong with LPOs. Companies and institutions issue LPOs and tenders all the time. You should be questioning the company/institution that issued the LPO, not the client who supplied goods. BTW an LPO is a binding contract just like a tender.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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hardwood wrote:murchr wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:murchr wrote:This case, the one of that pitching guy who installed and ERP just shows the procurement system is broken somewhere.
Kabura is/was being used as a conduit. She received contract not just from NYS but lands, sports etc...clearly someone in government was giving these contract.......esp those who civil servants in the procurement dept Let Kabura aende Langata Womens' ili iwe funzo kwa wengine Kufungwa ata fungwa but the pipeline needs to be repaired. Wako wengi hawa watu If Nakumatt contracts you to supply their stores with sukuma wiki, and then issues arise regarding payments, then it is the Nakumatt finance officer who should answer any audit questions or kufungwa, not the supplier. Quote:317. Conspiracy to defraud
Any person who conspires with another by deceit or any fraudulent means to affect the market price of anything publicly sold, or to defraud the public or any person, whether a particular person or not, or to extort any property from any person, is guilty of a misdemeanour and is liable to imprisonment for three years. Quote:CHAPTER V – PARTIES TO OFFENCES
20. Principal offenders
(1) When an offence is committed, each of the following persons is deemed to have taken part in committing the offence and to be guilty of the offence, and may be charged with actually committing it, that is to say—
(a) every person who actually does the act or makes the omission which constitutes the offence;
(b) every person who does or omits to do any act for the purpose of enabling or aiding another person to commit the offence;
(c) every person who aids or abets another person in committing the offence;
(d) any person who counsels or procures any other person to commit the offence "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Companies and institutions always have a database of pre-qualified suppliers. So if a company prepares an LPO and calls supplier X in their database and gives her the LPO, should she refuse to supply?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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hardwood wrote:Companies and institutions always have a database of pre-qualified suppliers. So if a company prepares an LPO and calls supplier X in their database and gives her the LPO, should she refuse to supply? She said that non of her 20 companies had any pre-qualification infact she doesnt understand what that is "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi
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murchr wrote:hardwood wrote:murchr wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:murchr wrote:This case, the one of that pitching guy who installed and ERP just shows the procurement system is broken somewhere.
Kabura is/was being used as a conduit. She received contract not just from NYS but lands, sports etc...clearly someone in government was giving these contract.......esp those who civil servants in the procurement dept Let Kabura aende Langata Womens' ili iwe funzo kwa wengine Kufungwa ata fungwa but the pipeline needs to be repaired. Wako wengi hawa watu If Nakumatt contracts you to supply their stores with sukuma wiki, and then issues arise regarding payments, then it is the Nakumatt finance officer who should answer any audit questions or kufungwa, not the supplier. Quote:317. Conspiracy to defraud
Any person who conspires with another by deceit or any fraudulent means to affect the market price of anything publicly sold, or to defraud the public or any person, whether a particular person or not, or to extort any property from any person, is guilty of a misdemeanour and is liable to imprisonment for three years. Quote:CHAPTER V – PARTIES TO OFFENCES
20. Principal offenders
(1) When an offence is committed, each of the following persons is deemed to have taken part in committing the offence and to be guilty of the offence, and may be charged with actually committing it, that is to say—
(a) every person who actually does the act or makes the omission which constitutes the offence;
(b) every person who does or omits to do any act for the purpose of enabling or aiding another person to commit the offence;
(c) every person who aids or abets another person in committing the offence;
(d) any person who counsels or procures any other person to commit the offence So you must draw a dotted line between the person who gave the tender and the one who was given. So the only person who will rat out Kabura is the guy who signed the LPO! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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masukuma wrote:murchr wrote:hardwood wrote:murchr wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:murchr wrote:This case, the one of that pitching guy who installed and ERP just shows the procurement system is broken somewhere.
Kabura is/was being used as a conduit. She received contract not just from NYS but lands, sports etc...clearly someone in government was giving these contract.......esp those who civil servants in the procurement dept Let Kabura aende Langata Womens' ili iwe funzo kwa wengine Kufungwa ata fungwa but the pipeline needs to be repaired. Wako wengi hawa watu If Nakumatt contracts you to supply their stores with sukuma wiki, and then issues arise regarding payments, then it is the Nakumatt finance officer who should answer any audit questions or kufungwa, not the supplier. Quote:317. Conspiracy to defraud
Any person who conspires with another by deceit or any fraudulent means to affect the market price of anything publicly sold, or to defraud the public or any person, whether a particular person or not, or to extort any property from any person, is guilty of a misdemeanour and is liable to imprisonment for three years. Quote:CHAPTER V – PARTIES TO OFFENCES
20. Principal offenders
(1) When an offence is committed, each of the following persons is deemed to have taken part in committing the offence and to be guilty of the offence, and may be charged with actually committing it, that is to say—
(a) every person who actually does the act or makes the omission which constitutes the offence;
(b) every person who does or omits to do any act for the purpose of enabling or aiding another person to commit the offence;
(c) every person who aids or abets another person in committing the offence;
(d) any person who counsels or procures any other person to commit the offence So you must draw a dotted line between the person who gave the tender and the one who was given. So the only person who will rat out Kabura is the guy who signed the LPO! She doesnt want to state who that is. She keeps claiming that she was called by the procurement department. The woman doesnt even know how to read the statements clearly she was not in this alone. But she is the signatory of the bank accounts "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi
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murchr wrote:masukuma wrote:murchr wrote:hardwood wrote:murchr wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:murchr wrote:This case, the one of that pitching guy who installed and ERP just shows the procurement system is broken somewhere.
Kabura is/was being used as a conduit. She received contract not just from NYS but lands, sports etc...clearly someone in government was giving these contract.......esp those who civil servants in the procurement dept Let Kabura aende Langata Womens' ili iwe funzo kwa wengine Kufungwa ata fungwa but the pipeline needs to be repaired. Wako wengi hawa watu If Nakumatt contracts you to supply their stores with sukuma wiki, and then issues arise regarding payments, then it is the Nakumatt finance officer who should answer any audit questions or kufungwa, not the supplier. Quote:317. Conspiracy to defraud
Any person who conspires with another by deceit or any fraudulent means to affect the market price of anything publicly sold, or to defraud the public or any person, whether a particular person or not, or to extort any property from any person, is guilty of a misdemeanour and is liable to imprisonment for three years. Quote:CHAPTER V – PARTIES TO OFFENCES
20. Principal offenders
(1) When an offence is committed, each of the following persons is deemed to have taken part in committing the offence and to be guilty of the offence, and may be charged with actually committing it, that is to say—
(a) every person who actually does the act or makes the omission which constitutes the offence;
(b) every person who does or omits to do any act for the purpose of enabling or aiding another person to commit the offence;
(c) every person who aids or abets another person in committing the offence;
(d) any person who counsels or procures any other person to commit the offence So you must draw a dotted line between the person who gave the tender and the one who was given. So the only person who will rat out Kabura is the guy who signed the LPO! She doesnt want to state who that is. She keeps claiming that she was called by the procurement department. The woman doesnt even know how to read the statements clearly she was not in this alone. But she is the signatory of the bank accounts What the Kethi Kilonzo drama showed me was... it's dangerous to have responsibility. there was a guy called Lemiso who kept the key for the safe where the voter slips were kept as soon as it disappeared and appeared on Kethi's hands... the guy who has the custody of the slips is put on the dock. So there is an LPO somewhere or a wire trail going back to a guy who has 'custody' <-- that's the guy to apply pressure on. Kama mimi Kabura siwezi sema chochote! why jikaanga? it's not in her interest to rat herself out. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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murchr wrote:hardwood wrote:Companies and institutions always have a database of pre-qualified suppliers. So if a company prepares an LPO and calls supplier X in their database and gives her the LPO, should she refuse to supply? She said that non of her 20 companies had any pre-qualification infact she doesnt understand what that is Even if she wasn't in the database, is that her problem? If a client walked to your office with a list of items they want supplied, would you refuse and demand pre-qualification and tenders? Also you mean an IT expert (yes she said that she previously worked for Kenya Data Networks as an IT expert - maybe she is a programmer) who had been supplying govt even before waiguru was appointed CS doesn't understand supply manenos and cant even read?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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masukuma wrote:murchr wrote:masukuma wrote:murchr wrote:hardwood wrote:murchr wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:murchr wrote:This case, the one of that pitching guy who installed and ERP just shows the procurement system is broken somewhere.
Kabura is/was being used as a conduit. She received contract not just from NYS but lands, sports etc...clearly someone in government was giving these contract.......esp those who civil servants in the procurement dept Let Kabura aende Langata Womens' ili iwe funzo kwa wengine Kufungwa ata fungwa but the pipeline needs to be repaired. Wako wengi hawa watu If Nakumatt contracts you to supply their stores with sukuma wiki, and then issues arise regarding payments, then it is the Nakumatt finance officer who should answer any audit questions or kufungwa, not the supplier. Quote:317. Conspiracy to defraud
Any person who conspires with another by deceit or any fraudulent means to affect the market price of anything publicly sold, or to defraud the public or any person, whether a particular person or not, or to extort any property from any person, is guilty of a misdemeanour and is liable to imprisonment for three years. Quote:CHAPTER V – PARTIES TO OFFENCES
20. Principal offenders
(1) When an offence is committed, each of the following persons is deemed to have taken part in committing the offence and to be guilty of the offence, and may be charged with actually committing it, that is to say—
(a) every person who actually does the act or makes the omission which constitutes the offence;
(b) every person who does or omits to do any act for the purpose of enabling or aiding another person to commit the offence;
(c) every person who aids or abets another person in committing the offence;
(d) any person who counsels or procures any other person to commit the offence So you must draw a dotted line between the person who gave the tender and the one who was given. So the only person who will rat out Kabura is the guy who signed the LPO! She doesnt want to state who that is. She keeps claiming that she was called by the procurement department. The woman doesnt even know how to read the statements clearly she was not in this alone. But she is the signatory of the bank accounts What the Kethi Kilonzo drama showed me was... it's dangerous to have responsibility. there was a guy called Lemiso who kept the key for the safe where the voter slips were kept as soon as it disappeared and appeared on Kethi's hands... the guy who has the custody of the slips is put on the dock. So there is an LPO somewhere or a wire trail going back to a guy who has 'custody' <-- that's the guy to apply pressure on. Kama mimi Kabura siwezi sema chochote! why jikaanga? it's not in her interest to rat herself out. Kabura, clearly was being used by the procurement guys at the ministry, if you listen to the proceedings when they were reading the inflows and outflows of cash from her 1 account roof and all trading the trail was .... deposit 30M 11 march - withdrawal 1m 2m 10m in cash different days or different time. Mind you, she is the only employee in these 20 companies. Take a listen https://youtu.be/frnywLDunSU?t=52m42s
Chrispin sankale ako mashakani "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Ironical that MPigs who never pay taxes are demanding to know if kabura paid taxes.
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/24/2010 Posts: 637 Location: Nairobi
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hardwood wrote:Ironical that MPigs who never pay taxes are demanding to know if kabura paid taxes. For as much s i can remember you have always unashamedly tried to divert or twist stories from matters touching on this lords of impunity of yours.relax The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.
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