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hardwood
#31 Posted : Tuesday, November 01, 2016 7:19:12 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
murchr wrote:
This case, the one of that pitching guy who installed and ERP just shows the procurement system is broken somewhere.

Kabura is/was being used as a conduit. She received contract not just from NYS but lands, sports etc...clearly someone in government was giving these contract.......esp those who civil servants in the procurement dept

Let Kabura aende Langata Womens' ili iwe funzo kwa wengine smile


For what crime? For getting a govt tender and being paid?
murchr
#32 Posted : Tuesday, November 01, 2016 7:28:41 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
murchr wrote:
This case, the one of that pitching guy who installed and ERP just shows the procurement system is broken somewhere.

Kabura is/was being used as a conduit. She received contract not just from NYS but lands, sports etc...clearly someone in government was giving these contract.......esp those who civil servants in the procurement dept

Let Kabura aende Langata Womens' ili iwe funzo kwa wengine smile


Kufungwa ata fungwa but the pipeline needs to be repaired. Wako wengi hawa watu
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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kaka2za
#33 Posted : Tuesday, November 01, 2016 7:58:32 PM
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hardwood wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
murchr wrote:
This case, the one of that pitching guy who installed and ERP just shows the procurement system is broken somewhere.

Kabura is/was being used as a conduit. She received contract not just from NYS but lands, sports etc...clearly someone in government was giving these contract.......esp those who civil servants in the procurement dept

Let Kabura aende Langata Womens' ili iwe funzo kwa wengine smile


For what crime? For getting a govt tender and being paid?


She never sought any tender. The only documents she got were LPOs.
I liked the part about carrying 52M to the quarry.

I will be loitering in the quarries now.
Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
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hardwood
#34 Posted : Tuesday, November 01, 2016 8:00:54 PM
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murchr wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
murchr wrote:
This case, the one of that pitching guy who installed and ERP just shows the procurement system is broken somewhere.

Kabura is/was being used as a conduit. She received contract not just from NYS but lands, sports etc...clearly someone in government was giving these contract.......esp those who civil servants in the procurement dept

Let Kabura aende Langata Womens' ili iwe funzo kwa wengine smile


Kufungwa ata fungwa but the pipeline needs to be repaired. Wako wengi hawa watu


If Nakumatt contracts you to supply their stores with sukuma wiki, and then issues arise regarding payments, then it is the Nakumatt finance officer who should answer any audit questions or kufungwa, not the supplier.
hardwood
#35 Posted : Tuesday, November 01, 2016 8:10:05 PM
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kaka2za wrote:
hardwood wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
murchr wrote:
This case, the one of that pitching guy who installed and ERP just shows the procurement system is broken somewhere.

Kabura is/was being used as a conduit. She received contract not just from NYS but lands, sports etc...clearly someone in government was giving these contract.......esp those who civil servants in the procurement dept

Let Kabura aende Langata Womens' ili iwe funzo kwa wengine smile


For what crime? For getting a govt tender and being paid?


She never sought any tender. The only documents she got were LPOs.
I liked the part about carrying 52M to the quarry.

I will be loitering in the quarries now.


There's nothing wrong with LPOs. Companies and institutions issue LPOs and tenders all the time. You should be questioning the company/institution that issued the LPO, not the client who supplied goods. BTW an LPO is a binding contract just like a tender.

murchr
#36 Posted : Tuesday, November 01, 2016 8:13:49 PM
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hardwood wrote:
murchr wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
murchr wrote:
This case, the one of that pitching guy who installed and ERP just shows the procurement system is broken somewhere.

Kabura is/was being used as a conduit. She received contract not just from NYS but lands, sports etc...clearly someone in government was giving these contract.......esp those who civil servants in the procurement dept

Let Kabura aende Langata Womens' ili iwe funzo kwa wengine smile


Kufungwa ata fungwa but the pipeline needs to be repaired. Wako wengi hawa watu


If Nakumatt contracts you to supply their stores with sukuma wiki, and then issues arise regarding payments, then it is the Nakumatt finance officer who should answer any audit questions or kufungwa, not the supplier.



Quote:
317. Conspiracy to defraud
Any person who conspires with another by deceit or any fraudulent means to affect the market price of anything publicly sold, or to defraud the public or any person, whether a particular person or not, or to extort any property from any person, is guilty of a misdemeanour and is liable to imprisonment for three years.


Quote:
CHAPTER V – PARTIES TO OFFENCES
20. Principal offenders
(1) When an offence is committed, each of the following persons is deemed to have taken part in committing the offence and to be guilty of the offence, and may be charged with actually committing it, that is to say—

(a) every person who actually does the act or makes the omission which constitutes the offence;
(b) every person who does or omits to do any act for the purpose of enabling or aiding another person to commit the offence;
(c) every person who aids or abets another person in committing the offence;
(d) any person who counsels or procures any other person to commit the offence
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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hardwood
#37 Posted : Tuesday, November 01, 2016 8:16:38 PM
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Companies and institutions always have a database of pre-qualified suppliers. So if a company prepares an LPO and calls supplier X in their database and gives her the LPO, should she refuse to supply?
murchr
#38 Posted : Tuesday, November 01, 2016 8:20:29 PM
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hardwood wrote:
Companies and institutions always have a database of pre-qualified suppliers. So if a company prepares an LPO and calls supplier X in their database and gives her the LPO, should she refuse to supply?


She said that non of her 20 companies had any pre-qualification infact she doesnt understand what that is
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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masukuma
#39 Posted : Tuesday, November 01, 2016 8:36:17 PM
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murchr wrote:
hardwood wrote:
murchr wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
murchr wrote:
This case, the one of that pitching guy who installed and ERP just shows the procurement system is broken somewhere.

Kabura is/was being used as a conduit. She received contract not just from NYS but lands, sports etc...clearly someone in government was giving these contract.......esp those who civil servants in the procurement dept

Let Kabura aende Langata Womens' ili iwe funzo kwa wengine smile


Kufungwa ata fungwa but the pipeline needs to be repaired. Wako wengi hawa watu


If Nakumatt contracts you to supply their stores with sukuma wiki, and then issues arise regarding payments, then it is the Nakumatt finance officer who should answer any audit questions or kufungwa, not the supplier.



Quote:
317. Conspiracy to defraud
Any person who conspires with another by deceit or any fraudulent means to affect the market price of anything publicly sold, or to defraud the public or any person, whether a particular person or not, or to extort any property from any person, is guilty of a misdemeanour and is liable to imprisonment for three years.


Quote:
CHAPTER V – PARTIES TO OFFENCES
20. Principal offenders
(1) When an offence is committed, each of the following persons is deemed to have taken part in committing the offence and to be guilty of the offence, and may be charged with actually committing it, that is to say—

(a) every person who actually does the act or makes the omission which constitutes the offence;
(b) every person who does or omits to do any act for the purpose of enabling or aiding another person to commit the offence;
(c) every person who aids or abets another person in committing the offence;
(d) any person who counsels or procures any other person to commit the offence

So you must draw a dotted line between the person who gave the tender and the one who was given. So the only person who will rat out Kabura is the guy who signed the LPO!
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
murchr
#40 Posted : Tuesday, November 01, 2016 8:38:55 PM
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Joined: 2/26/2012
Posts: 15,980
masukuma wrote:
murchr wrote:
hardwood wrote:
murchr wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
murchr wrote:
This case, the one of that pitching guy who installed and ERP just shows the procurement system is broken somewhere.

Kabura is/was being used as a conduit. She received contract not just from NYS but lands, sports etc...clearly someone in government was giving these contract.......esp those who civil servants in the procurement dept

Let Kabura aende Langata Womens' ili iwe funzo kwa wengine smile


Kufungwa ata fungwa but the pipeline needs to be repaired. Wako wengi hawa watu


If Nakumatt contracts you to supply their stores with sukuma wiki, and then issues arise regarding payments, then it is the Nakumatt finance officer who should answer any audit questions or kufungwa, not the supplier.



Quote:
317. Conspiracy to defraud
Any person who conspires with another by deceit or any fraudulent means to affect the market price of anything publicly sold, or to defraud the public or any person, whether a particular person or not, or to extort any property from any person, is guilty of a misdemeanour and is liable to imprisonment for three years.


Quote:
CHAPTER V – PARTIES TO OFFENCES
20. Principal offenders
(1) When an offence is committed, each of the following persons is deemed to have taken part in committing the offence and to be guilty of the offence, and may be charged with actually committing it, that is to say—

(a) every person who actually does the act or makes the omission which constitutes the offence;
(b) every person who does or omits to do any act for the purpose of enabling or aiding another person to commit the offence;
(c) every person who aids or abets another person in committing the offence;
(d) any person who counsels or procures any other person to commit the offence

So you must draw a dotted line between the person who gave the tender and the one who was given. So the only person who will rat out Kabura is the guy who signed the LPO!


She doesnt want to state who that is. She keeps claiming that she was called by the procurement department. The woman doesnt even know how to read the statements clearly she was not in this alone. But she is the signatory of the bank accounts

"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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