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The only way to fight corruption in Kenya.
2012
#51 Posted : Saturday, October 29, 2016 9:54:13 AM
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The level of corruption is now beyond immoral. I heard today that the 'officials' are already selling the relief food that was to be go to the hard hit areas.

BBI will solve it
:)
Angelica _ann
#52 Posted : Saturday, October 29, 2016 10:17:24 AM
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Posts: 11,937
Much Know wrote:
Poor LANGUAGE use is perhaps the major part, watu hawaelewi lugha, so they can't communicate or understand what's going on, people are "confused' and short of vocabulary.

1. What we are experiencing is more TRANSPARENCY, Uhuru is running a very transparent government for the first time in Kenya, you steal, your theft is made public, unlike what used to happen. Because of the increased publicity the "perception of corruption" is increased, never the less the FACT is Uhuru is the least corrupt President in the last 30 years.
2. Our legal system people are also quite deem in language and never differentiate terms in ethics. EXTORTION vs CORRUPTION (THEFT & ROBBERY, BRIBING), aka "corruption is a two way thing" ideology, more like being charged in court for robbing yourself. Indeed because the public officer has "AUTHORITY", he also bears "RESPONSIBILITY", you cannot as a public officer share authority with a private citizen and hence responsibility. Our lawyers are VERY POOR in language and it affects our legal system Indeed in many cases "FORCE" is used to "DEMAND" a bribe, which amounts to ROBBERY and not bribing, Police are well known to do this. A good legal system should always punish the public officer and use the private citizen as a witness, IF YOU SCARE the witness by stupidly saying it is "two way", never mind our judicial officers are "bribe demanders" and you will always hear the STUPID argument corruption is a two way thing. A public officer that makes such a statement is OBVIOUSLY condoning corruption somewhere in his department. It's an evil "EXCUSE" for corruption!

True, very true and Kenyans cannot appreciate as usual smile
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FRM2011
#53 Posted : Saturday, October 29, 2016 11:35:01 AM
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Joined: 11/5/2010
Posts: 2,459
Angelica _ann wrote:
Much Know wrote:
Poor LANGUAGE use is perhaps the major part, watu hawaelewi lugha, so they can't communicate or understand what's going on, people are "confused' and short of vocabulary.

1. What we are experiencing is more TRANSPARENCY, Uhuru is running a very transparent government for the first time in Kenya, you steal, your theft is made public, unlike what used to happen. Because of the increased publicity the "perception of corruption" is increased, never the less the FACT is Uhuru is the least corrupt President in the last 30 years.
2. Our legal system people are also quite deem in language and never differentiate terms in ethics. EXTORTION vs CORRUPTION (THEFT & ROBBERY, BRIBING), aka "corruption is a two way thing" ideology, more like being charged in court for robbing yourself. Indeed because the public officer has "AUTHORITY", he also bears "RESPONSIBILITY", you cannot as a public officer share authority with a private citizen and hence responsibility. Our lawyers are VERY POOR in language and it affects our legal system Indeed in many cases "FORCE" is used to "DEMAND" a bribe, which amounts to ROBBERY and not bribing, Police are well known to do this. A good legal system should always punish the public officer and use the private citizen as a witness, IF YOU SCARE the witness by stupidly saying it is "two way", never mind our judicial officers are "bribe demanders" and you will always hear the STUPID argument corruption is a two way thing. A public officer that makes such a statement is OBVIOUSLY condoning corruption somewhere in his department. It's an evil "EXCUSE" for corruption!

True, very true and Kenyans cannot appreciate as usual smile



"The trouble with Nigeria", wole soyinka once wrote, "is that we excuse the inexcusable and defend the indefensible".

Hope some of you posting crap here are beneficiaries and you have already moved your families to runda. If not, then you need prayers. That level of sycophancy on an empty stomach is a new world record.
mkeiy
#54 Posted : Sunday, October 30, 2016 6:32:54 PM
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Joined: 1/27/2012
Posts: 851
Location: Nairobi
Much Know wrote:
Poor LANGUAGE use is perhaps the major part, watu hawaelewi lugha, so they can't communicate or understand what's going on, people are "confused' and short of vocabulary.

1. What we are experiencing is more TRANSPARENCY, Uhuru is running a very transparent government for the first time in Kenya, you steal, your theft is made public, unlike what used to happen. Because of the increased publicity the "perception of corruption" is increased, never the less the FACT is Uhuru is the least corrupt President in the last 30 years.
2. Our legal system people are also quite deem in language and never differentiate terms in ethics. EXTORTION vs CORRUPTION (THEFT & ROBBERY, BRIBING), aka "corruption is a two way thing" ideology, more like being charged in court for robbing yourself. Indeed because the public officer has "AUTHORITY", he also bears "RESPONSIBILITY", you cannot as a public officer share authority with a private citizen and hence responsibility. Our lawyers are VERY POOR in language and it affects our legal system Indeed in many cases "FORCE" is used to "DEMAND" a bribe, which amounts to ROBBERY and not bribing, Police are well known to do this. A good legal system should always punish the public officer and use the private citizen as a witness, IF YOU SCARE the witness by stupidly saying it is "two way", never mind our judicial officers are "bribe demanders" and you will always hear the STUPID argument corruption is a two way thing. A public officer that makes such a statement is OBVIOUSLY condoning corruption somewhere in his department. It's an evil "EXCUSE" for corruption!


Language my foot!
Are you saying during Kibaki's tenure audit reports never came out?
How about the economy? We are doing very bad.
Making excuses for the sort of corruption in itself is inexcusable.

But don't worry, today they steal relief food, you may ask for evidence from us mere mortals.

Then boom, the tires burst.
Anti_Burglar
#55 Posted : Monday, October 31, 2016 10:39:57 AM
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Joined: 9/11/2015
Posts: 1,024


lol. sycophancy on an empty stomach....and excuses for corruption.....

lol.
washiku
#56 Posted : Monday, October 31, 2016 10:49:08 AM
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harrydre
#57 Posted : Monday, October 31, 2016 11:50:44 AM
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Joined: 7/10/2008
Posts: 9,131
Location: Kanjo
washiku wrote:


smile smile
i.am.back!!!!
hamburglar
#58 Posted : Monday, October 31, 2016 2:01:10 PM
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Joined: 12/17/2011
Posts: 887
Your imaginary god doesn't exist and your prayers will never be answered. We need practical solutions to end corruption.

That god guy is as useless as they come.

But am not completely the anti-Christ, I actually like that mwema song by Mercy Masika. I jam it really loud in my car and know it word for word even though i am probably the most radical atheist in Kenya. Lol.
2012
#59 Posted : Tuesday, November 01, 2016 11:11:41 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 12/9/2009
Posts: 6,592
Location: Nairobi
hamburglar wrote:
Your imaginary god doesn't exist and your prayers will never be answered. We need practical solutions to end corruption.

That god guy is as useless as they come.

But am not completely the anti-Christ, I actually like that mwema song by Mercy Masika. I jam it really loud in my car and know it word for word even though i am probably the most radical atheist in Kenya. Lol.


I have nothing against atheists. We are all born atheist anyway.
All I can urge you is to stay open minded.

I can tell you without a doubt that God answers prayers, just try one day after all, you'll have nothing to lose.

BBI will solve it
:)
Anti_Burglar
#60 Posted : Tuesday, November 01, 2016 11:34:44 AM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 9/11/2015
Posts: 1,024
hamburglar wrote:
Your imaginary god doesn't exist and your prayers will never be answered. We need practical solutions to end corruption.

That god guy is as useless as they come.

But am not completely the anti-Christ, I actually like that mwema song by Mercy Masika. I jam it really loud in my car and know it word for word even though i am probably the most radical atheist in Kenya. Lol.



Liar! You could be more religious than me. I have never heard of that song let alone know it word for word like you and so far I have resisted the temptation to go and look for it to hear how it sounds that makes you jam it real loud.

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