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Peter Kenneth Governor Nairobi County 2017
kaka2za
#21 Posted : Monday, October 24, 2016 3:15:57 PM
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Gathige wrote:
Problem is he is too Suave for the Nairobi trench-style politics. Getting a nomination is a tough call in Nbi as you literally have to ferry people for nominations, its normally done on a working day and the working class will rarely be available to nominate him.



I think he is not as suave as you think. He won KFF chairmanship and football politics are just as dirty.
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#22 Posted : Monday, October 24, 2016 4:16:47 PM
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kaka2za wrote:
Gathige wrote:
Problem is he is too Suave for the Nairobi trench-style politics. Getting a nomination is a tough call in Nbi as you literally have to ferry people for nominations, its normally done on a working day and the working class will rarely be available to nominate him.



I think he is not as suave as you think. He won KFF chairmanship and football politics are just as dirty.


I saw him being fronted by Nairobi MCA's, meaning he understands the game better than those fronted by leaders from other counties.
At the nomination stage, he just require some MCA's and very influencial local leaders for mobilisation.
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#23 Posted : Monday, October 24, 2016 5:34:33 PM
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Gathige wrote:
Problem is he is too Suave for the Nairobi trench-style politics. Getting a nomination is a tough call in Nbi as you literally have to ferry people for nominations, its normally done on a working day and the working class will rarely be available to nominate him.


He's a clever man. He would not make such a declaration without blessings from the top. His only threat would be Sonko and I'm sure they've already have a deal with him either to remain Senator until 2022 or something. Sakaja will get his nomination to Senate...

BBI will solve it
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#24 Posted : Monday, October 24, 2016 6:20:08 PM
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At this point it might be "anyone but Kidero."
PK may have lost street cred, but he grew up in Bahati-he might be able to reclaim that legacy, though I don't see him outdoing Sonko in the street cred department.

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#25 Posted : Tuesday, October 25, 2016 7:24:52 AM
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2012 wrote:
Gathige wrote:
Problem is he is too Suave for the Nairobi trench-style politics. Getting a nomination is a tough call in Nbi as you literally have to ferry people for nominations, its normally done on a working day and the working class will rarely be available to nominate him.


He's a clever man. He would not make such a declaration without blessings from the top. His only threat would be Sonko and I'm sure they've already have a deal with him either to remain Senator until 2022 or something. Sakaja will get his nomination to Senate...


the voter class that brought kidesh into power would NEVER bring sonko into power.
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#26 Posted : Tuesday, October 25, 2016 7:27:04 AM
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Cornelius Vanderbilt wrote:
2012 wrote:
Gathige wrote:
Problem is he is too Suave for the Nairobi trench-style politics. Getting a nomination is a tough call in Nbi as you literally have to ferry people for nominations, its normally done on a working day and the working class will rarely be available to nominate him.


He's a clever man. He would not make such a declaration without blessings from the top. His only threat would be Sonko and I'm sure they've already have a deal with him either to remain Senator until 2022 or something. Sakaja will get his nomination to Senate...


the voter class that brought kidesh into power would NEVER bring sonko into power.

The same voter class brought Sonko into Senate smile
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thuks
#27 Posted : Tuesday, October 25, 2016 7:43:16 AM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
Cornelius Vanderbilt wrote:
2012 wrote:
Gathige wrote:
Problem is he is too Suave for the Nairobi trench-style politics. Getting a nomination is a tough call in Nbi as you literally have to ferry people for nominations, its normally done on a working day and the working class will rarely be available to nominate him.


He's a clever man. He would not make such a declaration without blessings from the top. His only threat would be Sonko and I'm sure they've already have a deal with him either to remain Senator until 2022 or something. Sakaja will get his nomination to Senate...


the voter class that brought kidesh into power would NEVER bring sonko into power.

The same voter class brought Sonko into Senate smile


Sonko's votes were third highest in the country, including presidential votes. that is a class of it's own smile
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#28 Posted : Tuesday, October 25, 2016 7:52:32 AM
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thuks wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Cornelius Vanderbilt wrote:
2012 wrote:
Gathige wrote:
Problem is he is too Suave for the Nairobi trench-style politics. Getting a nomination is a tough call in Nbi as you literally have to ferry people for nominations, its normally done on a working day and the working class will rarely be available to nominate him.


He's a clever man. He would not make such a declaration without blessings from the top. His only threat would be Sonko and I'm sure they've already have a deal with him either to remain Senator until 2022 or something. Sakaja will get his nomination to Senate...


the voter class that brought kidesh into power would NEVER bring sonko into power.

The same voter class brought Sonko into Senate smile


Sonko's votes were third highest in the country, including presidential votes. that is a class of it's own smile

He beat both the 3rd guy in presidential race votes received and @masukuma votes smile
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Liv
#29 Posted : Tuesday, October 25, 2016 10:01:59 AM
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Peter Kenneth has just made the worst decision of his political career.
He should have stood as a presidential candidate again in my view.... So that in 2022 he can join forces with CORD or its equivalent as a member of a 'future Pentagon'. He has sacrificed whatever goodwill he had outside Mt Kenya region.

Whoever will lead that 'future pentagon' will likely become the next president as Kenyans will want change in 2022 in my view.

It is likely he will not win any governorship position.... Maybe he will wait to be appointed a cabinet secretary in 2017 which is not guaranteed.
Angelica _ann
#30 Posted : Tuesday, October 25, 2016 10:31:37 AM
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Liv wrote:
Peter Kenneth has just made the worst decision of his political career.
He should have stood as a presidential candidate again in my view.... So that in 2022 he can join forces with CORD or its equivalent as a member of a 'future Pentagon'. He has sacrificed whatever goodwill he had outside Mt Kenya region.

Whoever will lead that 'future pentagon' will likely become the next president as Kenyans will want change in 2022 in my view.

It is likely he will not win any governorship position.... Maybe he will wait to be appointed a cabinet secretary in 2017 which is not guaranteed.

I think after enjoying politics for decades, being in the cold sio mchezo and that is why many sober politicians make funny decisions to guarantee their survival. afadhali kukula nyama kidogo kuliko kumeza mate cc. Nyong'o and Orengo ... there are many more smile
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#31 Posted : Tuesday, October 25, 2016 11:49:08 AM
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Liv wrote:
Peter Kenneth has just made the worst decision of his political career.
He should have stood as a presidential candidate again in my view.... So that in 2022 he can join forces with CORD or its equivalent as a member of a 'future Pentagon'. He has sacrificed whatever goodwill he had outside Mt Kenya region.

Whoever will lead that 'future pentagon' will likely become the next president as Kenyans will want change in 2022 in my view.

It is likely he will not win any governorship position.... Maybe he will wait to be appointed a cabinet secretary in 2017 which is not guaranteed.


I disagree, Peter Kenneth is being set up for a stab at the presidency in 2022 against William Ruto.

As we all know, central will not vote outsiders, and many presume other blocks like nyanza will also not vote Ruto, so solution is to get a perceived non insider from central ready to take over from UK.

I for one will vote PK anyday over Ruto.
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#32 Posted : Tuesday, October 25, 2016 3:00:57 PM
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
Liv wrote:
Peter Kenneth has just made the worst decision of his political career.
He should have stood as a presidential candidate again in my view.... So that in 2022 he can join forces with CORD or its equivalent as a member of a 'future Pentagon'. He has sacrificed whatever goodwill he had outside Mt Kenya region.

Whoever will lead that 'future pentagon' will likely become the next president as Kenyans will want change in 2022 in my view.

It is likely he will not win any governorship position.... Maybe he will wait to be appointed a cabinet secretary in 2017 which is not guaranteed.


I disagree, Peter Kenneth is being set up for a stab at the presidency in 2022 against William Ruto.

As we all know, central will not vote outsiders, and many presume other blocks like nyanza will also not vote Ruto, so solution is to get a perceived non insider from central ready to take over from UK.

I for one will vote PK anyday over Ruto.


I agree totally this is about 2022!
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#33 Posted : Tuesday, October 25, 2016 3:22:22 PM
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
[quote=Liv][color=blue]

I disagree, Peter Kenneth is being set up for a stab at the presidency in 2022 against William Ruto.

As we all know, central will not vote outsiders, and many presume other blocks like nyanza will also not vote Ruto, so solution is to get a perceived non insider from central ready to take over from UK.

I for one will vote PK anyday over Ruto.


I don't think anyone is setting PK up - its just plain obvious that if he runs now he will not get either the Central or other regions' votes - in Central he will in fact be accused of being spoiler.
The 2 farasis are too strong, entire country polarized on those 2 ends, and he knows he doesnt stand much chance now - yet remaining in political Siberia would not be advisable as he would be 'forgotten'
It is a simple analysis really.
Nbi would have been best for him as a 2022 springboard, but he would not be assured - has higher chance in Fort Hall.

IMHO, it is a fallacy, and not a truism, that Central will not automatically choose anyone outside their community come 2022.Why is that assumed so automatic?
This mindset ignores a major factor: changing age dynamics of voters.
I mean so many changes in demographic trends have taken place, with the old guard and their mentality of Kyuk hegemony gradually ebbing away.
In 5 years the numbers of the Kyuk Independence generation and those with similar mindset will be almost negligible with majority of voters being vijanas brought up in an urban or informed setting, and more closer to other vijanas elsewhere that with their wazees.
Even in Luhyaland there is a major paradigm shift not just to be used by other communities but other communities to now support their quest for power.
Similarly, Kyuks will not stay stagnant forever and will realise they need to support other communities as well to ascend to presidency.
The problem is that we are extrapolating future trends using old mindsets which will be majorly disrupted by the bend-over generation.
my 2 cents.






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#34 Posted : Tuesday, October 25, 2016 3:53:24 PM
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
Liv wrote:
Peter Kenneth has just made the worst decision of his political career.
He should have stood as a presidential candidate again in my view.... So that in 2022 he can join forces with CORD or its equivalent as a member of a 'future Pentagon'. He has sacrificed whatever goodwill he had outside Mt Kenya region.

Whoever will lead that 'future pentagon' will likely become the next president as Kenyans will want change in 2022 in my view.

It is likely he will not win any governorship position.... Maybe he will wait to be appointed a cabinet secretary in 2017 which is not guaranteed.


I disagree, Peter Kenneth is being set up for a stab at the presidency in 2022 against William Ruto.

As we all know, central will not vote outsiders, and many presume other blocks like nyanza will also not vote Ruto, so solution is to get a perceived non insider from central ready to take over from UK.

I for one will vote PK anyday over Ruto.


There will be nothing like central votes (GEMA) come 2022 if they decide not to vote for ruto.

Kikuyus in riftvalley consisting of nakuru laikipia naivasha and nyarururu,their cousins the meru embu and mbeere will break ranks with kikuyus in kiambu nyeri and muranga.

With this mind kiambu and nyeri kikuyus will most likely follow their counterparts in riftvalley.

The best kennneth will get are muranga votes and with those muranga tycoons knowing how business and politics are connected he will get zero support from them .

The long and short huyu jamma hakuna mahali anaenda ni another ababu
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#35 Posted : Tuesday, October 25, 2016 4:01:18 PM
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Intelligentsia wrote:
Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
[quote=Liv]

I disagree, Peter Kenneth is being set up for a stab at the presidency in 2022 against William Ruto.

As we all know, central will not vote outsiders, and many presume other blocks like nyanza will also not vote Ruto, so solution is to get a perceived non insider from central ready to take over from UK.

I for one will vote PK anyday over Ruto.

IMHO, it is a fallacy, and not a truism, [color=red]that Central will not automatically choose anyone outside their community come 2022. Why is that assumed so automatic?
This mindset ignores a major factor: changing age dynamics of voters.
I mean so many changes in demographic trends have taken place, with the old guard and their mentality of Kyuk hegemony gradually ebbing away...

Let's wait and see. What change has happened? Since 1992, nothing has changed as far as this is concerned...
Angelica _ann
#36 Posted : Tuesday, October 25, 2016 4:19:54 PM
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#37 Posted : Tuesday, October 25, 2016 4:40:34 PM
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AlphDoti wrote:
Intelligentsia wrote:
Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
[quote=Liv]

I disagree, Peter Kenneth is being set up for a stab at the presidency in 2022 against William Ruto.

As we all know, central will not vote outsiders, and many presume other blocks like nyanza will also not vote Ruto, so solution is to get a perceived non insider from central ready to take over from UK.

I for one will vote PK anyday over Ruto.

IMHO, it is a fallacy, and not a truism, that Central will not automatically choose anyone outside their community come 2022. Why is that assumed so automatic?
This mindset ignores a major factor: changing age dynamics of voters.
[color=blue]I mean so many changes in demographic trends have taken place, with the old guard and their mentality of Kyuk hegemony gradually ebbing away...

Let's wait and see. What change has happened? Since 1992, nothing has changed as far as this is concerned...

Not in Kenya when young politicians are already picking the tribal and regional cue already....
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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#38 Posted : Tuesday, October 25, 2016 5:02:43 PM
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AlphDoti wrote:
Intelligentsia wrote:
Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
[quote=Liv]

I disagree, Peter Kenneth is being set up for a stab at the presidency in 2022 against William Ruto.

As we all know, central will not vote outsiders, and many presume other blocks like nyanza will also not vote Ruto, so solution is to get a perceived non insider from central ready to take over from UK.

I for one will vote PK anyday over Ruto.

IMHO, it is a fallacy, and not a truism, [color=red]that Central will not automatically choose anyone outside their community come 2022. Why is that assumed so automatic?
This mindset ignores a major factor: changing age dynamics of voters.
I mean so many changes in demographic trends have taken place, with the old guard and their mentality of Kyuk hegemony gradually ebbing away...

Let's wait and see. What change has happened? Since 1992, nothing has changed as far as this is concerned...

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#39 Posted : Wednesday, October 26, 2016 9:12:52 AM
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Sonko is still the man to beat.Hii ingine ni kelele za chura.
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#40 Posted : Sunday, November 13, 2016 9:06:17 PM
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Now he will support Ruto in 2022....Sunday Citizen News @ 9
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