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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/22/2009 Posts: 7,913
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obiero wrote:MaichBlack wrote:obiero wrote:KES 14.35 PBT, dividend KES 0.75 Worst "insider" information ever. Listening to Wazuans might at times make you lose the shirt on your back!!! LOL. I sold out pre-rights.. Sue me  I know you and your legendary KQ insider information where you were urging people to buy all the way from Kshs. 60/= to Kshs. 3.xy or thereabouts. So let's just say I totally ignored this "insider information"!!! Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,326 Location: nairobi
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Spikes wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Avoid GoK owned/controlled firms.
*I hold KenRe as my sole significant GoK-owned holding BUT I will bail out if need be if I think the management/board is actng shady!* @vvs you have been warning us. Kwanza mimi ndio mshindani but I have learnt through the hard way! Baptism by both water and fire. Safaricom?? COOP, IMH, KEGN, KQ, MTNU
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/20/2011 Posts: 1,822 Location: Nakuru
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watesh wrote:wukan wrote:Ericsson wrote:This is a crime against shareholders.
That CEO should be fired.The reason given is not substantial/tangible.
We already have excess power so what's the hurry to bring in all that capacity. Told you back in May you are better off as debt holder than equity holder. Wait for Kenya power results and see the disaster of central planning instead of market driven planning Am waiting to see if we get our usual 0.50 dividend from Kenya Power or if pia that has been diverted to fund campaigns Any news/info/rumours when they might be announcing the results? Ama bado ziko mbali kuiva? Dumb money becomes dumb only when it listens to smart money
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,326 Location: nairobi
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MaichBlack wrote:obiero wrote:MaichBlack wrote:obiero wrote:KES 14.35 PBT, dividend KES 0.75 Worst "insider" information ever. Listening to Wazuans might at times make you lose the shirt on your back!!! LOL. I sold out pre-rights.. Sue me I know you and your legendary KQ insider information where you were urging people to buy all the way from Kshs. 60/= to Kshs. 3.xy or thereabouts. So let's just say I totally ignored this "insider information"!!! Hahaha.. You are funniest. But in all fairness I revised the PBT and dividend forecast to KES 13.45 & KES 0.35 respectively COOP, IMH, KEGN, KQ, MTNU
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/10/2014 Posts: 992 Location: Kenya
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Fyatu wrote:watesh wrote:wukan wrote:Ericsson wrote:This is a crime against shareholders.
That CEO should be fired.The reason given is not substantial/tangible.
We already have excess power so what's the hurry to bring in all that capacity. Told you back in May you are better off as debt holder than equity holder. Wait for Kenya power results and see the disaster of central planning instead of market driven planning Am waiting to see if we get our usual 0.50 dividend from Kenya Power or if pia that has been diverted to fund campaigns Any news/info/rumours when they might be announcing the results? Ama bado ziko mbali kuiva? Last year they were released end of October so I guess ziko karibu kuiva
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,326 Location: nairobi
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enyands wrote:obiero wrote:guru267 wrote:sparkly wrote:kawi254 wrote:Blonde question:
Kengen's market capitalization as of close of trading 5/25/2016 is 14.29 B. After rights issue is complete new capital of 28.8 B will have been added so capitalization should be 14.29 + 28.8 = 42.09 B.
However, If hypothetically after rights start trading and price is at KES 2/= then capitalization will be ~6.6 B shares * 2 = 13.2 B. My question is where does the around ~30 B cash vanish to? Nobody has made this money so no wealth was transferred. Isn't that like money vanishing into a black hole?
ignore that Govts 20 B is debt convertion. Can't add capitalisation to Shareholders funds. current amount of shareholders is quite high, I think 60B or so. At the end of the rights 28.8B will be added to shareholders funds. Shareholder funds will be about KES 180 Bn after the rights issue This is a tragedy. Based on analysis I will wait out the storm and buy postissuance I second you in this man obi Post #348 May 26th COOP, IMH, KEGN, KQ, MTNU
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,382 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:Spikes wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Avoid GoK owned/controlled firms.
*I hold KenRe as my sole significant GoK-owned holding BUT I will bail out if need be if I think the management/board is actng shady!* @vvs you have been warning us. Kwanza mimi ndio mshindani but I have learnt through the hard way! Baptism by both water and fire. Safaricom?? Vodafone owns 40% & can (thankfully) out-vote GoK. Controlled by Vodafone. MJ was a Vodafone employee. BC was/is a Vodafone employee. The CFO is seconded by Vodafone. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/30/2016 Posts: 332 Location: Kayole
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In the words of a famous wazuan: Please do your research, homework, term papers, thesis then decide whether that stock is good for you... Beware of the slaughter house...where buyers are shown fresh succulent slices of meat...they are attracted to them and then when you take them home to cook, they will turn out to be old bones in red paint...The juicy EPS last year was the butcher's call KEGN, KPLC, KQ, SCOM
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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mkate_nusu wrote:In the words of a famous wazuan:
Please do your research, homework, term papers, thesis then decide whether that stock is good for you...
Beware of the slaughter house...where buyers are shown fresh succulent slices of meat...they are attracted to them and then when you take them home to cook, they will turn out to be old bones in red paint...
The juicy EPS last year was the butcher's call We have really been played. Even a 5 cent Dividend... Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,939
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sparkly wrote:mkate_nusu wrote:In the words of a famous wazuan:
Please do your research, homework, term papers, thesis then decide whether that stock is good for you...
Beware of the slaughter house...where buyers are shown fresh succulent slices of meat...they are attracted to them and then when you take them home to cook, they will turn out to be old bones in red paint...
The juicy EPS last year was the butcher's call We have really been played. Even a 5 cent Dividend... In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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