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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Trump is just horrible "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore .
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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murchr wrote:Trump is just horrible
There is no way he will win the elections... possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,822 Location: Nairobi
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has @hardwood thought of a possible reality where Trump is not President? All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/11/2015 Posts: 1,024
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Ummmm, pardon my interruption of this fanfare.
Do any one of us here actually know what these candidates are going to do about certain pertinent issues once they get into office? Or is it just the usual seasonal sentimental hullabaloo and excitement fever over elections?
For example, what will they do to about terrorism? What will they do to repair the failed states of middle east from which Islamic killers spread to the whole world seeing that their military is chin deep as a cause in the mess?
What will they do about the only other country that can inflict real tangible damage to their continent (laying aside the fallacy that if one's economy is 100 times more than the other's then they are immune) and by extension the whole world in the ensuing exchange? Will they escalate the rhetoric to war or de-escalate the rhetoric to peace?
Those are some issues of interest to me and the one the one who will give me answers I can be most comfortable with will have my best wishes (since I cant vote for them).
If anyone has some answers or data feel free to join in.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,822 Location: Nairobi
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Anti_Burglar wrote:Ummmm, pardon my interruption of this fanfare.
Do any one of us here actually know what these candidates are going to do about certain pertinent issues once they get into office? Or is it just the usual seasonal sentimental hullabaloo and excitement fever over elections?
For example, what will they do to about terrorism? What will they do to repair the failed states of middle east from which Islamic killers spread to the whole world seeing that their military is chin deep as a cause in the mess?
What will they do about the only other country that can inflict real tangible damage to their continent (laying aside the fallacy that if one's economy is 100 times more than the other's then they are immune) and by extension the whole world in the ensuing exchange? Will they escalate the rhetoric to war or de-escalate the rhetoric to peace?
Those are some issues of interest to me and the one the one who will give me answers I can be most comfortable with will have my best wishes (since I cant vote for them).
If anyone has some answers or data feel free to join in. hizo ni swali za kuuliza americans who will vote for him! hapa sisi tuko personalities  . All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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masukuma wrote:Anti_Burglar wrote:Ummmm, pardon my interruption of this fanfare.
Do any one of us here actually know what these candidates are going to do about certain pertinent issues once they get into office? Or is it just the usual seasonal sentimental hullabaloo and excitement fever over elections?
For example, what will they do to about terrorism? What will they do to repair the failed states of middle east from which Islamic killers spread to the whole world seeing that their military is chin deep as a cause in the mess?
What will they do about the only other country that can inflict real tangible damage to their continent (laying aside the fallacy that if one's economy is 100 times more than the other's then they are immune) and by extension the whole world in the ensuing exchange? Will they escalate the rhetoric to war or de-escalate the rhetoric to peace?
Those are some issues of interest to me and the one the one who will give me answers I can be most comfortable with will have my best wishes (since I cant vote for them).
If anyone has some answers or data feel free to join in. hizo ni swali za kuuliza americans who will vote for him! hapa sisi tuko personalities  . When you say "sisi", you mean you and who? Certainly not we the enlightened who have gone through the policies of both candidates and believe that Trumps policies are best for America and the world. I am sorry to tell you this but they say "simple minds discuss people/personalities while great minds (like mine) discuss ideas/policies. @Anti-burglar, no need to worry any more. One website has the answers to all the policy questions you are asking. And the site is: https://www.donaldjtrump.com/policies/
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Trump has the answers to America's problems and he articulated this very well in the 3rd debate. He was brilliant.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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MatataMingi wrote:Hi Hardwood,
Get a lot of tissues ready. You are going to CRY on November 8th. Pole Bwana - and keep ALL lethal objects (knives, guns, ropes etc.)locked somewhere safe, and throw the keys away.
We don't want you to do something stupid. The only tears will be tears of victory and joy, coz Trump will win big. In the unlikely event that he loses, then life goes on as usual. As Kibaki once said, an election is a one day event, and then life moves on. It's nothing to lose any sleep about (or harm one self or someone else).
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,822 Location: Nairobi
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@hardwood is delusional - his detailed knowledge of Trump's policies is like breasts without nipples... POINTLESS!! why? he is not voting!! he does not have a constituency that will vote that he can sway! our wishes that one candidate wins against the other is useless again! We don't vote - nor do we sway the vote in anyway. We are observers. We can kaza kunyi all we want but the american public is the one that will vote! if you are curious to see 'how they will likely vote' look for that data. Look for simulations, study the methodology e.t.c. The rest is actually very unuseful info.... it's as much use as an ash tray on a motor cycle! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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masukuma wrote:has @hardwood thought of a possible reality where Trump is not President? Looking at https://www.donaldjtrump.com/policies/ VS https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/ it's crystal clear that Trump is the right candidate.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2010 Posts: 3,504 Location: Uganda
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masukuma wrote:@hardwood is delusional - his detailed knowledge of Trump's policies is like breasts without nipples... POINTLESS!! why? he is not voting!! he does not have a constituency that will vote that he can sway! our wishes that one candidate wins against the other is useless again! We don't vote - nor do we sway the vote in anyway. We are observers. We can kaza kunyi all we want but the american public is the one that will vote! if you are curious to see 'how they will likely vote' look for that data. Look for simulations, study the methodology e.t.c. The rest is actually very unuseful info.... it's as much use as a an ash tray on a motor cycle! Kuna mtu hajaambiwa poa punda amecheka
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,822 Location: Nairobi
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my point exactly... it's pointless knowledge and preaching to a pointless audience. our curiosity is WHO WILL BE PRESIDENT not WHY X SHOULD BE PRESIDENT! that 'WHY X SHOULD' is useless since we don't play a role other than observation. it may have an auxiliary use for example saying 'my observation is that Trump will win because his policy on immigration is reverberating with x% of the voting populace in the swing state Y' but trying to convince anyone here that X is a better candidate than Y is an exercise in futility as opposed to trying to convince anyone here that candidate X stands a better candidate that Y is a much more useful cause as it feeds our curiosity! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/11/2015 Posts: 1,024
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newfarer wrote:masukuma wrote:@hardwood is delusional - his detailed knowledge of Trump's policies is like breasts without nipples... POINTLESS!! why? he is not voting!! he does not have a constituency that will vote that he can sway! our wishes that one candidate wins against the other is useless again! We don't vote - nor do we sway the vote in anyway. We are observers. We can kaza kunyi all we want but the american public is the one that will vote! if you are curious to see 'how they will likely vote' look for that data. Look for simulations, study the methodology e.t.c. The rest is actually very unuseful info.... it's as much use as a an ash tray on a motor cycle! Kuna mtu hajaambiwa poa You have discerned it as I have. Maskuma, Somehow, when terrorists who feel affiliated with the ideologies of their brothers in the middle east who are in turn intricately intertwined with the policies of the serving US government come killing people known to us, brothers, sisters, cousins, uncles and kin then you will know it is somewhat important. Until next time they do it. And then until next time, ad infinitum. While we cannot vote, we are more than just casual observers. The recently passed Justice Against Sponsors of Terrorism Act passed by US Congress while vetoed by the sitting president opens certain doors for even non-US Citizens to pursue certain issues of interest to them - case in point some Iraqis are now pushing their parliament for a law seeking compensation for the American invasion of the country as an indirect result of the said law. So it is self defeating, and self deprecating and shallow to be merely sensational and skin deep about these issues like so. But you can if you want, its a free world.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/11/2015 Posts: 1,024
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hardwood wrote:masukuma wrote:Anti_Burglar wrote:Ummmm, pardon my interruption of this fanfare.
Do any one of us here actually know what these candidates are going to do about certain pertinent issues once they get into office? Or is it just the usual seasonal sentimental hullabaloo and excitement fever over elections?
For example, what will they do to about terrorism? What will they do to repair the failed states of middle east from which Islamic killers spread to the whole world seeing that their military is chin deep as a cause in the mess?
What will they do about the only other country that can inflict real tangible damage to their continent (laying aside the fallacy that if one's economy is 100 times more than the other's then they are immune) and by extension the whole world in the ensuing exchange? Will they escalate the rhetoric to war or de-escalate the rhetoric to peace?
Those are some issues of interest to me and the one the one who will give me answers I can be most comfortable with will have my best wishes (since I cant vote for them).
If anyone has some answers or data feel free to join in. hizo ni swali za kuuliza americans who will vote for him! hapa sisi tuko personalities  . When you say "sisi", you mean you and who? Certainly not we the enlightened who have gone through the policies of both candidates and believe that Trumps policies are best for America and the world. I am sorry to tell you this but they say "simple minds discuss people/personalities while great minds (like mine) discuss ideas/policies. @Anti-burglar, no need to worry any more. One website has the answers to all the policy questions you are asking. And the site is: https://www.donaldjtrump.com/policies/ To be fair, you are constantly striking some right cords with me.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/25/2014 Posts: 2,301 Location: kenya
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Anti_Burglar wrote:hardwood wrote:masukuma wrote:Anti_Burglar wrote:Ummmm, pardon my interruption of this fanfare.
Do any one of us here actually know what these candidates are going to do about certain pertinent issues once they get into office? Or is it just the usual seasonal sentimental hullabaloo and excitement fever over elections?
For example, what will they do to about terrorism? What will they do to repair the failed states of middle east from which Islamic killers spread to the whole world seeing that their military is chin deep as a cause in the mess?
What will they do about the only other country that can inflict real tangible damage to their continent (laying aside the fallacy that if one's economy is 100 times more than the other's then they are immune) and by extension the whole world in the ensuing exchange? Will they escalate the rhetoric to war or de-escalate the rhetoric to peace?
Those are some issues of interest to me and the one the one who will give me answers I can be most comfortable with will have my best wishes (since I cant vote for them).
If anyone has some answers or data feel free to join in. hizo ni swali za kuuliza americans who will vote for him! hapa sisi tuko personalities  . When you say "sisi", you mean you and who? Certainly not we the enlightened who have gone through the policies of both candidates and believe that Trumps policies are best for America and the world. I am sorry to tell you this but they say "simple minds discuss people/personalities while great minds (like mine) discuss ideas/policies. @Anti-burglar, no need to worry any more. One website has the answers to all the policy questions you are asking. And the site is: https://www.donaldjtrump.com/policies/ To be fair, you are constantly striking some right cords with me. Coz frogs of the same coats croak together
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 6/12/2011 Posts: 53 Location: Nirvana
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masukuma wrote:@muraythee and @hardwood will be like  Its interesting you want us to buy your CNN and other anti-trump MSM polls hook line and sinker. Negro Please! If you decide to go with the pro Hillary polls, why not let others quote different polls? Thats the entitlement I was talking about. Ati you're right coz you're pro establishment. Bollocks! Ati coz CNN said so. The same CNN said Kenya is a hot bed of terror. And Kenyans were up in arms till CNN retracted. Its what they do. Cook things up then feed them to the sheeple, and their shepherd in chief, masukuma. Keep going. I don't sweat petty things or pet sweaty things. [/b]
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/11/2015 Posts: 1,024
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enyands wrote:Anti_Burglar wrote:hardwood wrote:masukuma wrote:Anti_Burglar wrote:Ummmm, pardon my interruption of this fanfare.
Do any one of us here actually know what these candidates are going to do about certain pertinent issues once they get into office? Or is it just the usual seasonal sentimental hullabaloo and excitement fever over elections?
For example, what will they do to about terrorism? What will they do to repair the failed states of middle east from which Islamic killers spread to the whole world seeing that their military is chin deep as a cause in the mess?
What will they do about the only other country that can inflict real tangible damage to their continent (laying aside the fallacy that if one's economy is 100 times more than the other's then they are immune) and by extension the whole world in the ensuing exchange? Will they escalate the rhetoric to war or de-escalate the rhetoric to peace?
Those are some issues of interest to me and the one the one who will give me answers I can be most comfortable with will have my best wishes (since I cant vote for them).
If anyone has some answers or data feel free to join in. hizo ni swali za kuuliza americans who will vote for him! hapa sisi tuko personalities  . When you say "sisi", you mean you and who? Certainly not we the enlightened who have gone through the policies of both candidates and believe that Trumps policies are best for America and the world. I am sorry to tell you this but they say "simple minds discuss people/personalities while great minds (like mine) discuss ideas/policies. @Anti-burglar, no need to worry any more. One website has the answers to all the policy questions you are asking. And the site is: https://www.donaldjtrump.com/policies/ To be fair, you are constantly striking some right cords with me. Coz frogs of the same coats croak together Hii patchwork saying umetoa wapi? lol. It is not necessary nevertheless.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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