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Treasury Bills and Bonds
maka
#271 Posted : Tuesday, October 18, 2016 11:52:03 AM
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Intelligentsia wrote:
@Maka, I thought this was a fixed coupon, no bidding?


Even if the coupon is fixed guys still bid.
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Impunity
#272 Posted : Tuesday, October 18, 2016 1:26:16 PM
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maka wrote:
Intelligentsia wrote:
@Maka, I thought this was a fixed coupon, no bidding?


Even if the coupon is fixed guys still bid.


I too thought that when the gaamnent says "fixed coupon" then no haggling allowed.
I was wrong and seemingly tuko wengi.

@maka,are guys placing less than 1M allowed to bid ama if they do that they will automatically disquolified?
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maka
#273 Posted : Tuesday, October 18, 2016 1:32:25 PM
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Impunity wrote:
maka wrote:
Intelligentsia wrote:
@Maka, I thought this was a fixed coupon, no bidding?


Even if the coupon is fixed guys still bid.


I too thought that when the gaamnent says "fixed coupon" then no haggling allowed.
I was wrong and seemingly tuko wengi.

@maka,are guys placing less than 1M allowed to bid ama if they do that they will automatically disquolified?


Above 20mio you have to bid....below 20mio it's not a must you can apply at average....but to answer you yes you can put in a competitive bid even at 100k.
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Chaka
#274 Posted : Wednesday, October 19, 2016 10:07:56 AM
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What sort of commission do brokers charge when selling a bond?
maka
#275 Posted : Wednesday, October 19, 2016 10:24:35 AM
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Chaka wrote:
What sort of commission do brokers charge when selling a bond?


0.00024% lets just say its negligible.
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Chaka
#276 Posted : Wednesday, October 19, 2016 10:28:26 AM
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maka wrote:
Chaka wrote:
What sort of commission do brokers charge when selling a bond?


0.00024% lets just say its negligible.

Ok,then they may not be keen to sell small lots?
maka
#277 Posted : Wednesday, October 19, 2016 10:33:02 AM
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maka wrote:
Chaka wrote:
What sort of commission do brokers charge when selling a bond?


0.00024% lets just say its negligible.




Check out the comms for 5 mio...but most brokers they have set the minimum as 500 bob...so if you transact 100,000...you will be charged 500 bob
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Impunity
#278 Posted : Wednesday, October 19, 2016 5:16:02 PM
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maka wrote:
maka wrote:
Chaka wrote:
What sort of commission do brokers charge when selling a bond?


0.00024% lets just say its negligible.




Check out the comms for 5 mio...but most brokers they have set the minimum as 500 bob...so if you transact 100,000...you will be charged 500 bob


How do Bond brokers make money then if the commision is so tiny hivi?
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maka
#279 Posted : Wednesday, October 19, 2016 8:42:14 PM
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Impunity wrote:
maka wrote:
maka wrote:
Chaka wrote:
What sort of commission do brokers charge when selling a bond?


0.00024% lets just say its negligible.




Check out the comms for 5 mio...but most brokers they have set the minimum as 500 bob...so if you transact 100,000...you will be charged 500 bob


How do Bond brokers make money then if the commision is so tiny hivi?


Arbitrage....
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maka
#280 Posted : Wednesday, October 19, 2016 9:31:07 PM
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maka wrote:
Liv wrote:
@Maka,
On what basis 12.70 - 13.20?


Market Intel...


Like I said...

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Liv
#281 Posted : Thursday, October 20, 2016 1:26:00 AM
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maka wrote:
maka wrote:
Liv wrote:
@Maka,
On what basis 12.70 - 13.20?


Market Intel...


Like I said...




@Maka,
Excellent...spot on.... Well done.
maka
#282 Posted : Thursday, October 20, 2016 8:36:41 AM
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Liv wrote:
maka wrote:
maka wrote:
Liv wrote:
@Maka,
On what basis 12.70 - 13.20?


Market Intel...


Like I said...




@Maka,
Excellent...spot on.... Well done.


smile Asante...I like the way auctions are done under PN....information dessimantion is equal...everyone knows the results once they posted on the CBK website...a while back things were bad,top brokers knew new offerings and results way ahead of other fellows
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obiero
#283 Posted : Thursday, October 20, 2016 8:59:04 AM
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maka wrote:
Liv wrote:
maka wrote:
maka wrote:
Liv wrote:
@Maka,
On what basis 12.70 - 13.20?


Market Intel...


Like I said...




@Maka,
Excellent...spot on.... Well done.


smile Asante...I like the way auctions are done under PN....information dessimantion is equal...everyone knows the results once they posted on the CBK website...a while back things were bad,top brokers knew new offerings and results way ahead of other fellows

Soo true. The digital team at CBK is switched on

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Liv
#284 Posted : Thursday, October 20, 2016 11:41:17 AM
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13.177% is high being all net of tax.
lochaz-index
#285 Posted : Thursday, October 20, 2016 2:50:26 PM
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GoK is behind schedule in its domestic borrowing targets and they finished paying back their overdraft loan for the last financial year. With external funding proving difficult, there should be lots of activity on this front coupled by an uptick in rates.
The main purpose of the stock market is to make fools of as many people as possible.
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