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Limuru Tea FY15 PBT up 147% to 5.1Mn
VituVingiSana
#11 Posted : Thursday, October 13, 2016 10:11:28 AM
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MadDoc wrote:
I still don't get why this share is so darn pricey. Especially, when there's better choices like WTK and Kapchorua. Even Kakuzi.

Where is Limuru Tea's farm located?
Where is WTK & Kapchorua farms located? [Where did PEV 2008 happen? Whose stronghold are these farms in? How close are they to large towns?]
Where is Kakuzi's farm located? Does Kakuzi have any drama about their leases?
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
MadDoc
#12 Posted : Thursday, October 13, 2016 7:24:43 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
MadDoc wrote:
I still don't get why this share is so darn pricey. Especially, when there's better choices like WTK and Kapchorua. Even Kakuzi.

Where is Limuru Tea's farm located?
Where is WTK & Kapchorua farms located? [Where did PEV 2008 happen? Whose stronghold are these farms in? How close are they to large towns?]
Where is Kakuzi's farm located? Does Kakuzi have any drama about their leases?


WTK still looks to be the better choice. Basing stock attractiveness on assets or earnings from core activity, it's a no-brainer for me
lochaz-index
#13 Posted : Thursday, October 13, 2016 9:09:51 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
MadDoc wrote:
I still don't get why this share is so darn pricey. Especially, when there's better choices like WTK and Kapchorua. Even Kakuzi.

Where is Limuru Tea's farm located?
Where is WTK & Kapchorua farms located? [Where did PEV 2008 happen? Whose stronghold are these farms in? How close are they to large towns?]
Where is Kakuzi's farm located? Does Kakuzi have any drama about their leases?

I am not so much into agric stocks -I've never owned one - but
comparatively I still think this stock is punching above its weight on many counts.

Sure, their land is prime vs the rest of the competition. The last I checked their total land holding was about 776 acres (correct me if I wrong). Putting aside WTK and Kapchorua, the others have land holdings running into the thousands of acres (but have more shares I believe) and are not far from the CBD either.

If we ignore all other assets and only look at land as the basis for the premium the market places on this stock would its price be justified vs the rest? Total land value/total issued shares = land value per share.

Placed toe to toe with say eaagads or kakuzi or sasini (ignoring merali's antics) which of these would have the highest land value per share? Further to, would its PER or PBV merit to be that high either vis a vis the land value per share or ROE numbers? Or am I missing something?
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VituVingiSana
#14 Posted : Thursday, October 13, 2016 9:57:43 PM
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lochaz-index wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
MadDoc wrote:
I still don't get why this share is so darn pricey. Especially, when there's better choices like WTK and Kapchorua. Even Kakuzi.

Where is Limuru Tea's farm located?
Where is WTK & Kapchorua farms located? [Where did PEV 2008 happen? Whose stronghold are these farms in? How close are they to large towns?]
Where is Kakuzi's farm located? Does Kakuzi have any drama about their leases?

I am not so much into agric stocks -I've never owned one - but
comparatively I still think this stock is punching above its weight on many counts.

Sure, their land is prime vs the rest of the competition. The last I checked their total land holding was about 776 acres (correct me if I wrong). Putting aside WTK and Kapchorua, the others have land holdings running into the thousands of acres (but have more shares I believe) and are not far from the CBD either.

If we ignore all other assets and only look at land as the basis for the premium the market places on this stock would its price be justified vs the rest? Total land value/total issued shares = land value per share.

Placed toe to toe with say eaagads or kakuzi or sasini (ignoring merali's antics) which of these would have the highest land value per share? Further to, would its PER or PBV merit to be that high either vis a vis the land value per share or ROE numbers? Or am I missing something?

1) Excluding Merali's antics, Sasini would have the best/highest "Price/Book Value" but... you have the Merali discount of 100%.
2) Limuru (Tea) is very close to Nairobi and there are significant developments coming up in the area. Plus the Westlands-Limuru road might get a makeover/expansion to cater for the additional traffic to Naivasha [SGR, tourism, industrial park, etc].
3) Kakuzi is very attractive on a Price/Book Value basis if the Kiambu/Muranga mafia don't invade their land/farms.
4) WTK/KTC are too far away from any significant urban centers and are NOT land plays. Plus, let's call a spade a spade. They are in the middle of an area where "outsiders" could be massacred. Refer to PEV 2008. So these are pure tea (not land) plays.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
MadDoc
#15 Posted : Friday, October 14, 2016 9:19:41 AM
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lochaz-index wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
MadDoc wrote:
I still don't get why this share is so darn pricey. Especially, when there's better choices like WTK and Kapchorua. Even Kakuzi.

Where is Limuru Tea's farm located?
Where is WTK & Kapchorua farms located? [Where did PEV 2008 happen? Whose stronghold are these farms in? How close are they to large towns?]
Where is Kakuzi's farm located? Does Kakuzi have any drama about their leases?

I am not so much into agric stocks -I've never owned one - but
comparatively I still think this stock is punching above its weight on many counts.

Sure, their land is prime vs the rest of the competition. The last I checked their total land holding was about 776 acres (correct me if I wrong). Putting aside WTK and Kapchorua, the others have land holdings running into the thousands of acres (but have more shares I believe) and are not far from the CBD either.

If we ignore all other assets and only look at land as the basis for the premium the market places on this stock would its price be justified vs the rest? Total land value/total issued shares = land value per share.

Placed toe to toe with say eaagads or kakuzi or sasini (ignoring merali's antics) which of these would have the highest land value per share? Further to, would its PER or PBV merit to be that high either vis a vis the land value per share or ROE numbers? Or am I missing something?


Thank you both for the insight
mkate_nusu
#16 Posted : Friday, October 14, 2016 3:06:53 PM
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Declined by 50 shs to be Top Loser of the day
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Pesa Nane
#17 Posted : Wednesday, May 31, 2017 10:38:04 AM
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Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
Pesa Nane
#18 Posted : Wednesday, June 07, 2017 9:20:48 PM
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Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
Pesa Nane
#19 Posted : Thursday, June 08, 2017 10:37:20 AM
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Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
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