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Shocking Jubilee secret MEGA projects!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
hardwood
#61 Posted : Thursday, October 13, 2016 9:29:11 PM
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No water for nairobi from Muranga. Let nairobians buy jerrycans and roto tanks and harvest rainwater. Let every county mind its own business.
Swenani
#62 Posted : Thursday, October 13, 2016 9:37:45 PM
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hardwood wrote:
No water for nairobi from Muranga. Let nairobians buy jerrycans and roto tanks and harvest rainwater. Let every county mind its own business.

we shall marry nyankole women and drink their kachambali water
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hardwood
#63 Posted : Thursday, October 13, 2016 10:01:50 PM
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I am very worried that 5 species of frogs in muranga rivers will become extinct if water is diverted to nairobi.
hardwood
#64 Posted : Thursday, October 13, 2016 11:18:07 PM
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I have seen the videos on the project. So they are not diverting the rivers but using flood waters.



Angelica _ann
#65 Posted : Thursday, October 13, 2016 11:20:21 PM
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hardwood wrote:
I have seen the video on the project. So they are not diverting the rivers but using flood waters.


Post #52
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Kaigangio
#66 Posted : Friday, October 14, 2016 1:03:20 AM
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I am really amazed at the level of ignorance and individualistic leanings from the politicians. All the hullabaloos surrounding the North Collector Tunnel project has got nothing to do with decimation of some species or desertification in downstream of the rivers where water is to be tapped from and such other kind of nonsense. It is all about Murang'a politics.

To start with the feasibility studies for Ndakaini Dam was done in 1982/1983 during the same period the one for construction of Multipuporse dam at the confluence of Ndarugu and Nairobi river near Munyu in Thika and Greater Kibwezi Irrigation Project. The latter still remains on paper, but as late as last year there was some serious activity on going to the next step.

The findings were that the Ndakaini dam was going to hold 70 Billion litres and a consistent extraction of 430 Million litres per day for the first 10 years after which this would start to decrease due to silting of the dam and significant shrinkage of catchment. The report further gave a compesation solution for this decreased productivity of the dam, the Northern Tunnel Collectors whose detailed technical evaluations and the Social and Environmental Impact Assesment (SEIA) showed that there were no going to be any adverse effects on ecosystem and communities living within the project area and downstream all the way to Tana delta as the extra water to be extracted from the affected rivers was the flood water and not the normal flow water as recorded by the flow stations. Besides other negative impacts as envisaged in the report were going to be addressed accordingly and satisfactorily during the implementation stage.

Upon the completion of the study, Nairobi City Council did not have the Ksh. 1.5 Billion required then to construct the dam and so it had to shelf it. It was not until the year 1988 when the construction started through funding from World Bank, ADB, European Investment Bank and the Kenya Government.

Just before the construction started some 450 ha of land was acquired at a total cost of kshs 127 million being compensation for the 300 households (small scale farmers) who were to be involved in the displacement and relocation.

Whatever else that is being peddled by the politicians is pure chicken shit with no technical facts to support their arguments. This is simply a fight against Wa Iria being perpetrated by Gitura and his Kigumo counterpart. The problem is they used the wrong avenue by hiring a mouth piece who has extrapolated the issue all the way to indian ocean for his own selfish gain. Probably they did or did not see that coming.

...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...
murchr
#67 Posted : Friday, October 14, 2016 3:40:25 AM
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Kaigangio wrote:
I am really amazed at the level of ignorance and individualistic leanings from the politicians. All the hullabaloos surrounding the North Collector Tunnel project has got nothing to do with decimation of some species or desertification in downstream of the rivers where water is to be tapped from and such other kind of nonsense. It is all about Murang'a politics.

To start with the feasibility studies for Ndakaini Dam was done in 1982/1983 during the same period the one for construction of Multipuporse dam at the confluence of Ndarugu and Nairobi river near Munyu in Thika and Greater Kibwezi Irrigation Project. The latter still remains on paper, but as late as last year there was some serious activity on going to the next step.

The findings were that the Ndakaini dam was going to hold 70 Billion litres and a consistent extraction of 430 Million litres per day for the first 10 years after which this would start to decrease due to silting of the dam and significant shrinkage of catchment. The report further gave a compesation solution for this decreased productivity of the dam, the Northern Tunnel Collectors whose detailed technical evaluations and the Social and Environmental Impact Assesment (SEIA) showed that there were no going to be any adverse effects on ecosystem and communities living within the project area and downstream all the way to Tana delta as the extra water to be extracted from the affected rivers was the flood water and not the normal flow water as recorded by the flow stations. Besides other negative impacts as envisaged in the report were going to be addressed accordingly and satisfactorily during the implementation stage.

Upon the completion of the study, Nairobi City Council did not have the Ksh. 1.5 Billion required then to construct the dam and so it had to shelf it. It was not until the year 1988 when the construction started through funding from World Bank, ADB, European Investment Bank and the Kenya Government.

Just before the construction started some 450 ha of land was acquired at a total cost of kshs 127 million being compensation for the 300 households (small scale farmers) who were to be involved in the displacement and relocation.

Whatever else that is being peddled by the politicians is pure chicken shit with no technical facts to support their arguments. This is simply a fight against Wa Iria being perpetrated by Gitura and his Kigumo counterpart. The problem is they used the wrong avenue by hiring a mouth piece who has extrapolated the issue all the way to indian ocean for his own selfish gain. Probably they did or did not see that coming.



Politicians will be politicians every time. I think the most frustrating thing is how ignorant our so called media gets. These guys have no idea what their job is. They think only reporting what was said is their job.

For more informed news - stick to wazua
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enyands
#68 Posted : Friday, October 14, 2016 6:20:33 AM
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If news talks good news all the time it will be boring .they have to spice it up with well cooked Lies to attract your attention .that's why Kenya was referred to as "hotbed of terror" whereas it wasn't
Njung'e
#69 Posted : Friday, October 14, 2016 7:12:06 AM
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Kaigangio wrote:
I am really amazed at the level of ignorance and individualistic leanings from the politicians. All the hullabaloos surrounding the North Collector Tunnel project has got nothing to do with decimation of some species or desertification in downstream of the rivers where water is to be tapped from and such other kind of nonsense. It is all about Murang'a politics.

To start with the feasibility studies for Ndakaini Dam was done in 1982/1983 during the same period the one for construction of Multipuporse dam at the confluence of Ndarugu and Nairobi river near Munyu in Thika and Greater Kibwezi Irrigation Project. The latter still remains on paper, but as late as last year there was some serious activity on going to the next step.

The findings were that the Ndakaini dam was going to hold 70 Billion litres and a consistent extraction of 430 Million litres per day for the first 10 years after which this would start to decrease due to silting of the dam and significant shrinkage of catchment. The report further gave a compesation solution for this decreased productivity of the dam, the Northern Tunnel Collectors whose detailed technical evaluations and the Social and Environmental Impact Assesment (SEIA) showed that there were no going to be any adverse effects on ecosystem and communities living within the project area and downstream all the way to Tana delta as the extra water to be extracted from the affected rivers was the flood water and not the normal flow water as recorded by the flow stations. Besides other negative impacts as envisaged in the report were going to be addressed accordingly and satisfactorily during the implementation stage.

Upon the completion of the study, Nairobi City Council did not have the Ksh. 1.5 Billion required then to construct the dam and so it had to shelf it. It was not until the year 1988 when the construction started through funding from World Bank, ADB, European Investment Bank and the Kenya Government.

Just before the construction started some 450 ha of land was acquired at a total cost of kshs 127 million being compensation for the 300 households (small scale farmers) who were to be involved in the displacement and relocation.

Whatever else that is being peddled by the politicians is pure chicken shit with no technical facts to support their arguments. This is simply a fight against Wa Iria being perpetrated by Gitura and his Kigumo counterpart. The problem is they used the wrong avenue by hiring a mouth piece who has extrapolated the issue all the way to indian ocean for his own selfish gain. Probably they did or did not see that coming.



That part is what the politician does not seem to get!. I am not surprised though when those weighing in are the likes of Joho. What does he know? He is an expert in what?. As i put it earlier, the scheme is bigger. That is why , we are hearing of Tana river Delta and it's population from Joho (and the dreaming team)
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jokes
#70 Posted : Friday, October 14, 2016 8:39:30 AM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
So Baba was spot on smile smile smile


Yes Ann, he is Right. They did approach him.
The issue is that they want due compensation for extraction of their resources.
About the other environmental issues i don’t know about but i am sure about the money side.
Raila just made it political and a national issue but that is all good to the muranga politicians as long as their county get compensation.
Athi water services board and Nairobi water company has to find out a way to work it out with the muranga county on this.
Angelica _ann
#71 Posted : Friday, October 14, 2016 8:50:13 AM
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The way Muranga politicians are soo measured in their approach on this, what will happen when Uhuruto is over and now it is Ruto. smile
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hardwood
#72 Posted : Friday, October 14, 2016 9:08:45 AM
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As I said earlier, let nairobians buy mutungis and roto tanks and harvest rain water. Let their taps run dry. There is no free manna from muranga.

Muranga should only donate water to nairobi after 100% of all muranga people are supplied with piped water, and also after they have irrigated all their fields, then the excess can be given to nairobi.
Museveni
#73 Posted : Friday, October 14, 2016 9:48:03 AM
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Njung'e wrote:
Kaigangio wrote:
I am really amazed at the level of ignorance and individualistic leanings from the politicians. All the hullabaloos surrounding the North Collector Tunnel project has got nothing to do with decimation of some species or desertification in downstream of the rivers where water is to be tapped from and such other kind of nonsense. It is all about Murang'a politics.

To start with the feasibility studies for Ndakaini Dam was done in 1982/1983 during the same period the one for construction of Multipuporse dam at the confluence of Ndarugu and Nairobi river near Munyu in Thika and Greater Kibwezi Irrigation Project. The latter still remains on paper, but as late as last year there was some serious activity on going to the next step.

The findings were that the Ndakaini dam was going to hold 70 Billion litres and a consistent extraction of 430 Million litres per day for the first 10 years after which this would start to decrease due to silting of the dam and significant shrinkage of catchment. The report further gave a compesation solution for this decreased productivity of the dam, the Northern Tunnel Collectors whose detailed technical evaluations and the Social and Environmental Impact Assesment (SEIA) showed that there were no going to be any adverse effects on ecosystem and communities living within the project area and downstream all the way to Tana delta as the extra water to be extracted from the affected rivers was the flood water and not the normal flow water as recorded by the flow stations. Besides other negative impacts as envisaged in the report were going to be addressed accordingly and satisfactorily during the implementation stage.

Upon the completion of the study, Nairobi City Council did not have the Ksh. 1.5 Billion required then to construct the dam and so it had to shelf it. It was not until the year 1988 when the construction started through funding from World Bank, ADB, European Investment Bank and the Kenya Government.

Just before the construction started some 450 ha of land was acquired at a total cost of kshs 127 million being compensation for the 300 households (small scale farmers) who were to be involved in the displacement and relocation.

Whatever else that is being peddled by the politicians is pure chicken shit with no technical facts to support their arguments. This is simply a fight against Wa Iria being perpetrated by Gitura and his Kigumo counterpart. The problem is they used the wrong avenue by hiring a mouth piece who has extrapolated the issue all the way to indian ocean for his own selfish gain. Probably they did or did not see that coming.



That part is what the politician does not seem to get!. I am not surprised though when those weighing in are the likes of Joho. What does he know? He is an expert in what?. As i put it earlier, the scheme is bigger. That is why , we are hearing of Tana river Delta and it's population from Joho (and the dreaming team)

Talking about flooding in Muranga Liar

Most news from Muranga county during the rain season is all about LANDSLIDES.

Are these tunnels going to tackle the landslides problem ?Liar

And where are the Nairobi leaders to give weight to the importance of project ?

On this baba is spot on. Too many shortcuts and dismissing informed views under the veil of "no adverse effects".
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Wamunyota
#74 Posted : Friday, October 14, 2016 10:17:31 AM
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Swenani wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
So Baba was spot on smile smile smile


I told you!

If baba says we will have a threesome during the mbuzi, you better come to mbuzi wet!

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
Hutia Mundu!!
Impunity
#75 Posted : Friday, October 14, 2016 10:21:00 AM
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Who is boring that Tunnel?
I didnt see anything Shainese, kwani they were beaten on this?
d'oh!
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Impunity
#76 Posted : Friday, October 14, 2016 10:22:34 AM
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Wamunyota wrote:
Swenani wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
So Baba was spot on smile smile smile


I told you!

If baba says we will have a threesome during the mbuzi, you better come to mbuzi wet!

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

majimaji
#77 Posted : Friday, October 14, 2016 10:29:11 AM
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Impunity wrote:
Wamunyota wrote:
Swenani wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
So Baba was spot on smile smile smile


I told you!

If baba says we will have a threesome during the mbuzi, you better come to mbuzi wet!

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly


And after, you can go dryingsmile
Mtafiti
#78 Posted : Friday, October 14, 2016 10:31:58 AM
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Impunity wrote:
Who is boring that Tunnel?
I didnt see anything Shainese, kwani they were beaten on this?
d'oh!



Chinese of course!! Was there a month ago. Guys working inside the tunnel leave their IDs out as they enter. The reasoning is a bit hilarious.
Wamunyota
#79 Posted : Friday, October 14, 2016 10:47:15 AM
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majimaji wrote:
Impunity wrote:
Wamunyota wrote:
Swenani wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
So Baba was spot on smile smile smile


I told you!

If baba says we will have a threesome during the mbuzi, you better come to mbuzi wet!

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly


And after, you can go dryingsmile

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Ati majimaji Athii akiumagasmile
Hutia Mundu!!
Wamunyota
#80 Posted : Friday, October 14, 2016 10:48:46 AM
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Nairobi should just recycle the sewage na maisha iendelee.
Hutia Mundu!!
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