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Kenya Airways...why ignore..
VituVingiSana
#5961 Posted : Tuesday, October 11, 2016 4:44:44 PM
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I see someone is now biting the hand that fed him. Liar Liar Liar
Folks ain't loyal. d'oh! d'oh! d'oh!

In other news: KK is doing a-OK winning OTS cargoes.

*Please fill up at KK. We need the business. KQ & friends to pay cash*
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
maka
#5962 Posted : Tuesday, October 11, 2016 5:34:51 PM
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Let the f***er go home....tumechoka
possunt quia posse videntur
obiero
#5963 Posted : Wednesday, October 12, 2016 7:24:33 AM
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Let Ngunze take a final bow. The KALPA guys tasted the blood of Evanson, Mbugua, Avedi, Yves, Capt Mwangi, Mwendar all in a span of less than a year, now they are back for more. We shall offer them peace of mind by gracefully retiring Ngunze only. Awori must stay but not as Chairman

COOP 255,000 ABP 15.85; KQ 544,100 ABP 7.15; MTN 23,800 ABP 5.20
VituVingiSana
#5964 Posted : Wednesday, October 12, 2016 7:30:20 AM
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Some folks ain't loyal Laughing out loudly d'oh! Liar Shame on you Laughing out loudly d'oh! Liar Shame on you

obiero wrote:
Let Ngunze take a final bow. The KALPA guys tasted the blood of Evanson, Mbugua, Avedi, Yves, Capt Mwangi, Mwendar all in a span of less than a year, now they are back for more. We shall offer them peace of mind by gracefully retiring Ngunze only. Awori must stay but not as Chairman

Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Spikes
#5965 Posted : Wednesday, October 12, 2016 9:37:05 AM
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Location: Mombasa
This counter has begun overheating following a notice of strike by pilots.

It is terrible as bid cancellations could make a major hit in stock price.
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
Impunity
#5966 Posted : Wednesday, October 12, 2016 10:11:26 AM
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Joined: 3/2/2009
Posts: 26,330
Location: Masada
obiero wrote:
Let Ngunze take a final bow. The KALPA guys tasted the blood of Evanson, Mbugua, Avedi, Yves, Capt Mwangi, Mwendar all in a span of less than a year, now they are back for more. We shall offer them peace of mind by gracefully retiring Ngunze only. Awori must stay but not as Chairman


So what post should @Awori retain?
Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

obiero
#5967 Posted : Wednesday, October 12, 2016 10:20:04 AM
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Posts: 13,708
Location: nairobi
Impunity wrote:
obiero wrote:
Let Ngunze take a final bow. The KALPA guys tasted the blood of Evanson, Mbugua, Avedi, Yves, Capt Mwangi, Mwendar all in a span of less than a year, now they are back for more. We shall offer them peace of mind by gracefully retiring Ngunze only. Awori must stay but not as Chairman


So what post should @Awori retain?

Board member.. This can be done without need for an extraordinary meeting

COOP 255,000 ABP 15.85; KQ 544,100 ABP 7.15; MTN 23,800 ABP 5.20
Angelica _ann
#5968 Posted : Wednesday, October 12, 2016 10:32:46 AM
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obiero wrote:
Impunity wrote:
obiero wrote:
Let Ngunze take a final bow. The KALPA guys tasted the blood of Evanson, Mbugua, Avedi, Yves, Capt Mwangi, Mwendar all in a span of less than a year, now they are back for more. We shall offer them peace of mind by gracefully retiring Ngunze only. Awori must stay but not as Chairman


So what post should @Awori retain?

Board member.. This can be done without need for an extraordinary meeting

So who do they want to be chair MJ? smile
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
ArrestedDev
#5969 Posted : Wednesday, October 12, 2016 1:12:31 PM
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Joined: 5/29/2016
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Location: Nairobi
Angelica _ann wrote:
obiero wrote:
Impunity wrote:
obiero wrote:
Let Ngunze take a final bow. The KALPA guys tasted the blood of Evanson, Mbugua, Avedi, Yves, Capt Mwangi, Mwendar all in a span of less than a year, now they are back for more. We shall offer them peace of mind by gracefully retiring Ngunze only. Awori must stay but not as Chairman


So what post should @Awori retain?

Board member.. This can be done without need for an extraordinary meeting

So who do they want to be chair MJ? smile


Do not be surprised if Ngunze stays put. The god fathers do not know this Company is on the brink of collapse. They are focused on next year's general election and cannot listen to anyone. Meanwhile, the forensic audit shows the both sides of political class are to blame for the mess in KQ. In fact,the current holders are the one trying to save it e.g. they approved the bailout and they are closely monitoring the turnaround which is already yielding fruits as per their understanding. In Kenya, everything is politics.
Impunity
#5970 Posted : Wednesday, October 12, 2016 1:20:35 PM
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Joined: 3/2/2009
Posts: 26,330
Location: Masada
obiero wrote:
Impunity wrote:
obiero wrote:
Let Ngunze take a final bow. The KALPA guys tasted the blood of Evanson, Mbugua, Avedi, Yves, Capt Mwangi, Mwendar all in a span of less than a year, now they are back for more. We shall offer them peace of mind by gracefully retiring Ngunze only. Awori must stay but not as Chairman


So what post should @Awori retain?

Board member.. This can be done without need for an extraordinary meeting


Of what immense value is he to the KQ board?
Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

obiero
#5971 Posted : Wednesday, October 12, 2016 2:25:44 PM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,708
Location: nairobi
Impunity wrote:
obiero wrote:
Impunity wrote:
obiero wrote:
Let Ngunze take a final bow. The KALPA guys tasted the blood of Evanson, Mbugua, Avedi, Yves, Capt Mwangi, Mwendar all in a span of less than a year, now they are back for more. We shall offer them peace of mind by gracefully retiring Ngunze only. Awori must stay but not as Chairman


So what post should @Awori retain?

Board member.. This can be done without need for an extraordinary meeting


Of what immense value is he to the KQ board?

Former ambassador, key to bilateral air agreement formations. Also seats on Toyota Kenya hence sub lease negotiation for ground service

COOP 255,000 ABP 15.85; KQ 544,100 ABP 7.15; MTN 23,800 ABP 5.20
ArrestedDev
#5972 Posted : Wednesday, October 12, 2016 3:08:08 PM
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Location: Nairobi
obiero wrote:
Impunity wrote:
obiero wrote:
Impunity wrote:
obiero wrote:
Let Ngunze take a final bow. The KALPA guys tasted the blood of Evanson, Mbugua, Avedi, Yves, Capt Mwangi, Mwendar all in a span of less than a year, now they are back for more. We shall offer them peace of mind by gracefully retiring Ngunze only. Awori must stay but not as Chairman


So what post should @Awori retain?

Board member.. This can be done without need for an extraordinary meeting


Of what immense value is he to the KQ board?

Former ambassador, key to bilateral air agreement formations. Also seats on Toyota Kenya hence sub lease negotiation for ground service


He has nothing to offer KQ as a former ambassador. BASAs are government to government. Since he was elected as the board chair, which route has he negotiated for? He is just a sycophant of political class currently siphoning billions out of KQ to tax havens through SPVs. The truth be told.

If he was a serious board chair with a commercial acumen, all those mentioned in the forensic audit preliminary reports should be immediately suspended including Ngunze. His appointment to the boards that he sits on was based on his government connections hence access to key govt. contracts by the likes of Toyota.
obiero
#5973 Posted : Wednesday, October 12, 2016 6:14:01 PM
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ArrestedDev wrote:
obiero wrote:
Impunity wrote:
obiero wrote:
Impunity wrote:
obiero wrote:
Let Ngunze take a final bow. The KALPA guys tasted the blood of Evanson, Mbugua, Avedi, Yves, Capt Mwangi, Mwendar all in a span of less than a year, now they are back for more. We shall offer them peace of mind by gracefully retiring Ngunze only. Awori must stay but not as Chairman


So what post should @Awori retain?

Board member.. This can be done without need for an extraordinary meeting


Of what immense value is he to the KQ board?

Former ambassador, key to bilateral air agreement formations. Also seats on Toyota Kenya hence sub lease negotiation for ground service


He has nothing to offer KQ as a former ambassador. BASAs are government to government. Since he was elected as the board chair, which route has he negotiated for? He is just a sycophant of political class currently siphoning billions out of KQ to tax havens through SPVs. The truth be told.

If he was a serious board chair with a commercial acumen, all those mentioned in the forensic audit preliminary reports should be immediately suspended including Ngunze. His appointment to the boards that he sits on was based on his government connections hence access to key govt. contracts by the likes of Toyota.

Angola, Vietnam, Cape Town already done.. Chengdu, Chenai, Perth coming soon

COOP 255,000 ABP 15.85; KQ 544,100 ABP 7.15; MTN 23,800 ABP 5.20
maka
#5974 Posted : Wednesday, October 12, 2016 6:51:07 PM
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Joined: 4/22/2010
Posts: 11,522
Location: Nairobi
obiero wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
obiero wrote:
Impunity wrote:
obiero wrote:
Impunity wrote:
obiero wrote:
Let Ngunze take a final bow. The KALPA guys tasted the blood of Evanson, Mbugua, Avedi, Yves, Capt Mwangi, Mwendar all in a span of less than a year, now they are back for more. We shall offer them peace of mind by gracefully retiring Ngunze only. Awori must stay but not as Chairman


So what post should @Awori retain?

Board member.. This can be done without need for an extraordinary meeting


Of what immense value is he to the KQ board?

Former ambassador, key to bilateral air agreement formations. Also seats on Toyota Kenya hence sub lease negotiation for ground service


He has nothing to offer KQ as a former ambassador. BASAs are government to government. Since he was elected as the board chair, which route has he negotiated for? He is just a sycophant of political class currently siphoning billions out of KQ to tax havens through SPVs. The truth be told.

If he was a serious board chair with a commercial acumen, all those mentioned in the forensic audit preliminary reports should be immediately suspended including Ngunze. His appointment to the boards that he sits on was based on his government connections hence access to key govt. contracts by the likes of Toyota.

Angola, Vietnam, Cape Town already done.. Chengdu, Chenai, Perth coming soon


What will they fly huko?They dont have capacity...unless kites.
possunt quia posse videntur
Angelica _ann
#5975 Posted : Wednesday, October 12, 2016 7:26:53 PM
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Joined: 12/7/2012
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You guys are hilarious on this thread. Declaring - No KQ shares for me smile
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
Swenani
#5976 Posted : Wednesday, October 12, 2016 7:42:47 PM
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Joined: 8/15/2013
Posts: 13,237
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maka wrote:
obiero wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
obiero wrote:
Impunity wrote:
obiero wrote:
Impunity wrote:
obiero wrote:
Let Ngunze take a final bow. The KALPA guys tasted the blood of Evanson, Mbugua, Avedi, Yves, Capt Mwangi, Mwendar all in a span of less than a year, now they are back for more. We shall offer them peace of mind by gracefully retiring Ngunze only. Awori must stay but not as Chairman


So what post should @Awori retain?

Board member.. This can be done without need for an extraordinary meeting


Of what immense value is he to the KQ board?

Former ambassador, key to bilateral air agreement formations. Also seats on Toyota Kenya hence sub lease negotiation for ground service


He has nothing to offer KQ as a former ambassador. BASAs are government to government. Since he was elected as the board chair, which route has he negotiated for? He is just a sycophant of political class currently siphoning billions out of KQ to tax havens through SPVs. The truth be told.

If he was a serious board chair with a commercial acumen, all those mentioned in the forensic audit preliminary reports should be immediately suspended including Ngunze. His appointment to the boards that he sits on was based on his government connections hence access to key govt. contracts by the likes of Toyota.

Angola, Vietnam, Cape Town already done.. Chengdu, Chenai, Perth coming soon


What will they fly huko?They dont have capacity...unless kites.


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
maka
#5977 Posted : Wednesday, October 12, 2016 11:57:01 PM
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ArrestedDev
#5978 Posted : Thursday, October 13, 2016 4:20:03 AM
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[quote=maka]
http://www.businessdaily...;utm_source=twitterfeed[/quote]

If Macharia is a serious and competent manager then all the individuals named in that report starting from Ngunze, Diaz and the rest must be suspended immediately.

I hope the pilots do not give in to continued piece meal changes. This Airline is bleeding to death.
ArrestedDev
#5979 Posted : Thursday, October 13, 2016 4:27:40 AM
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Swenani wrote:
maka wrote:
obiero wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
obiero wrote:
Impunity wrote:
obiero wrote:
Impunity wrote:
obiero wrote:
Let Ngunze take a final bow. The KALPA guys tasted the blood of Evanson, Mbugua, Avedi, Yves, Capt Mwangi, Mwendar all in a span of less than a year, now they are back for more. We shall offer them peace of mind by gracefully retiring Ngunze only. Awori must stay but not as Chairman


So what post should @Awori retain?

Board member.. This can be done without need for an extraordinary meeting


Of what immense value is he to the KQ board?

Former ambassador, key to bilateral air agreement formations. Also seats on Toyota Kenya hence sub lease negotiation for ground service


He has nothing to offer KQ as a former ambassador. BASAs are government to government. Since he was elected as the board chair, which route has he negotiated for? He is just a sycophant of political class currently siphoning billions out of KQ to tax havens through SPVs. The truth be told.

If he was a serious board chair with a commercial acumen, all those mentioned in the forensic audit preliminary reports should be immediately suspended including Ngunze. His appointment to the boards that he sits on was based on his government connections hence access to key govt. contracts by the likes of Toyota.

Angola, Vietnam, Cape Town already done.. Chengdu, Chenai, Perth coming soon


What will they fly huko?They dont have capacity...unless kites.


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly


No serious expansion by KQ to be done any time soon. The delay in putting in place the right people is even messing up the future of the Airline.

Ngunze auctioned the planes in the name of turnaround. No plane should have left the fleet, there is enough demand and only the root cause of low uptake of passengers by KQ should have been addressed e.g. pricing including ticketing malpractices by staff and travel agents as identified in the forensic report, poor customer service, etc.

Angola was done long before he joined the board.
alotoftalk
#5980 Posted : Thursday, October 13, 2016 5:10:59 AM
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ICPAK has lost the plot http://ntv.nation.co.ke/...4700-6q749pz/index.html

How is a adoption of bad business plan not a management failure and poor governance?

Who takes the fall when KQ adopts a bad business plan. In my mind the senior management and board need to take the fall for such a blunder.
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