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Shocking Jubilee secret MEGA projects!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
FRM2011
#41 Posted : Tuesday, October 11, 2016 1:21:51 PM
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alma1 wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:
Why do the jubilee guys feel the need to respond to baba on every occasion. It's always a trap and they always end up with egg on the face.

Do it Kibaki style. Silence. Let the technocrats from the water and irrigation ministry handle the matter. Now every jubilee sycophant is weighing in without taking time to digest the allegations from baba.

We've been here before; nys, waiguru, eurobond, iebc. And jubilee always scores own goal.



I was wondering the same thing.

The question is legit. Is the watercatchment area in greater central going to be eroded or not?

Sometimes I see why Trump is loved in Africa.


Now a report from a technical committee from the muranga county govt has surfaced and it's findings are similar to what baba is saying. Limitation of consultation, non-compliance with statutory requirements and negative impact on communities downstream.

The late michuki had sworn those tunnels would only be constructed over his dead body. Someone took his dare literally.

See why it's important to pause a bit before responding to baba.
hardwood
#42 Posted : Tuesday, October 11, 2016 1:59:49 PM
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mkenyan wrote:
Bigchick wrote:
mkenyan wrote:
Bigchick wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
There have been silent discontent in Muranga about this project.
The refrain has been 'let's not attack our government'
Baba is right on facts but he is not the right guy to push this agenda. He should have left it to Martha.



Please summarise the facts he is right about.

If he left it to Martha nobody would listen plus Martha is still sane enough to know when to payuka and when not to.

Whatever facts babu has they have been overshadowed by his stupidity of calling it a secret project and the fact that he was involved at the begining.

if this project was bad and shall affect the people of muranga among others, i find it ironical that because of raila's involvement people are ready to cut off their noses to spite their face. maybe that's been raila's intention all along.



Don't get me wrong. That is why I asked for a summary of the facts so that we all evaluate them.
Its not about Babus involvement is about about the storm he wants to raise through falsehoods and exargerations that is the problem.

When I got the "breaking news" on the news conference about this project what came to mind is some clandestine activity that is happening in the dead of the night with some strange equipment that make no noise such that even the adjacent settlements have no clue at all.

Only for counter claims to show he was with it from the start and its an open project.

i get you. but problem is that due to raila's involvement the signal shall be surely swallowed by the noise.

i have a colleague who has been against this project from the word go - not that i agree with the reasons for that. and he is a jubilee die hard. right now the guy is all over - he is pro and anti the project depending on whether he is talking about it or raila. fun to watch actually.

Laughing out loudly
Wamunyota
#43 Posted : Tuesday, October 11, 2016 2:02:45 PM
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Now that the information came from Kimundu,any reasonable discussion is out.
Hutia Mundu!!
Angelica _ann
#44 Posted : Tuesday, October 11, 2016 2:12:04 PM
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Wamunyota wrote:
Now that the information came from Kimundu,any reasonable discussion is out.

Regardless the impact will come to pass cc. Mau smile smile smile
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keraka
#45 Posted : Tuesday, October 11, 2016 3:58:41 PM
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Wamunyota wrote:
Now that the information came from Kimundu,any reasonable discussion is out.

In Africa the Oppressed will always side with the oppressors regardless of what.....

In Kenya the well educated peasant in Wazua will always stand with Uthamaki regardless of whatever issues raised by that bogeyman Babu whom we have been programmed to believe is our worst enemy.

The bogeyman once talked about NYS and we were told he is fighting a superperforming minister just coz she is from the mountain and is changing the face of the country including kibera.Need i say more. Africans????

NB whether Baba/Babu is right or wrong i dont know,and whether he was involved or not in the initiation of the project is neither here nor there. Issue is," has he raised factual issues in the past and vindicated later on" ?Yes! Then why cant we interrogate this issue further rather than making stupid analysis and justifications on an allegedly elite forum.


The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.
kaka2za
#46 Posted : Tuesday, October 11, 2016 4:04:42 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
Wamunyota wrote:
Now that the information came from Kimundu,any reasonable discussion is out.

Regardless the impact will come to pass cc. Mau smile smile smile


History repeating itself. I hope wont soon hear of people heading to Gatundu for a cup of tea!
Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
hardwood
#47 Posted : Tuesday, October 11, 2016 4:09:04 PM
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kaka2za wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Wamunyota wrote:
Now that the information came from Kimundu,any reasonable discussion is out.

Regardless the impact will come to pass cc. Mau smile smile smile


History repeating itself. I hope wont soon hear of people heading to Gatundu for a cup of tea!


Muranga governor Wairia says project is "safi kama pamba". Tells baba to keep off.

http://www.the-star.co.k...ia-says-defends_c1436015
hardwood
#48 Posted : Tuesday, October 11, 2016 4:22:59 PM
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keraka wrote:
Wamunyota wrote:
Now that the information came from Kimundu,any reasonable discussion is out.

In Africa the Oppressed will always side with the oppressors regardless of what.....

In Kenya the well educated peasant in Wazua will always stand with Uthamaki regardless of whatever issues raised by that bogeyman Babu whom we have been programmed to believe is our worst enemy.

The bogeyman once talked about NYS and we were told he is fighting a superperforming minister just coz she is from the mountain and is changing the face of the country including kibera.Need i say more. Africans????

NB whether Baba/Babu is right or wrong i dont know,and whether he was involved or not in the initiation of the project is neither here nor there. Issue is," has he raised factual issues in the past and vindicated later on" ?Yes! Then why cant we interrogate this issue further rather than making stupid analysis and justifications on an allegedly elite forum.




Could the World Bank have funded such a giant project without an environmental impact assessment being carried out? I doubt. That said, muranga people should also benefit from their water before it is piped to nairobi.
sheri
#49 Posted : Tuesday, October 11, 2016 4:25:32 PM
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I thought the World Bank before funding or partnering in any project always gets environmental impact assessments reports. Is the World Bank funding a project which will affects communities even if it is 20 years to come or did it ignore any advice from it technical advisors and decided to play ball with the government. Now that issues are being raised can we get a proper audit of the project without politicizing the issue.
Babu mentioned about desertification and Nairobi flooding. These are two issues which we should be interrogating.Not forgetting the money involved is huge.
Obi 1 Kanobi
#50 Posted : Tuesday, October 11, 2016 4:44:00 PM
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keraka wrote:
Wamunyota wrote:
Now that the information came from Kimundu,any reasonable discussion is out.

In Africa the Oppressed will always side with the oppressors regardless of what.....

In Kenya the well educated peasant in Wazua will always stand with Uthamaki regardless of whatever issues raised by that bogeyman Babu whom we have been programmed to believe is our worst enemy.

The bogeyman once talked about NYS and we were told he is fighting a superperforming minister just coz she is from the mountain and is changing the face of the country including kibera.Need i say more. Africans????

NB whether Baba/Babu is right or wrong i dont know,and whether he was involved or not in the initiation of the project is neither here nor there. Issue is," has he raised factual issues in the past and vindicated later on" ?Yes! Then why cant we interrogate this issue further rather than making stupid analysis and justifications on an allegedly elite forum.



Cutting deepsmile smile
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