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Treasury Bills and Bonds
maka
#221 Posted : Monday, October 10, 2016 7:49:08 AM
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Posts: 11,522
Location: Nairobi
I have never understood why it takes ages for CBK to upload new bond offers...Till now they still have the last bond on their website.
possunt quia posse videntur
Impunity
#222 Posted : Monday, October 10, 2016 1:17:28 PM
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Joined: 3/2/2009
Posts: 26,331
Location: Masada
maka wrote:
I have never understood why it takes ages for CBK to upload new bond offers...Till now they still have the last bond on their website.


I have been waiting for that IFB like milele.
Anyone has it? Even in hardcopy, please scan and share here.
Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

Impunity
#223 Posted : Monday, October 10, 2016 1:31:13 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 3/2/2009
Posts: 26,331
Location: Masada
Impunity wrote:
maka wrote:
I have never understood why it takes ages for CBK to upload new bond offers...Till now they still have the last bond on their website.


I have been waiting for that IFB like milele.
Anyone has it? Even in hardcopy, please scan and share here.


Seen the offer, thanks.
smile
Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

snipermnoma
#224 Posted : Monday, October 10, 2016 3:48:07 PM
Rank: Member

Joined: 1/3/2014
Posts: 257
Impunity wrote:
maka wrote:
I have never understood why it takes ages for CBK to upload new bond offers...Till now they still have the last bond on their website.


I have been waiting for that IFB like milele.
Anyone has it? Even in hardcopy, please scan and share here.


You can download the pdf directly from their website. Link: https://www.centralbank....%20YR-%20Prospectus.pdf
maka
#225 Posted : Monday, October 10, 2016 7:55:21 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 4/22/2010
Posts: 11,522
Location: Nairobi
snipermnoma wrote:
maka wrote:
Impunity wrote:
maka wrote:
Impunity wrote:
maka wrote:
Impunity wrote:
maka wrote:
snipermnoma wrote:
Impunity wrote:
maka wrote:
IFB 1.2016.15....@12% ...October issue.


By 2016/15 you mean ndiu ndate is 15th?


Have not seen the prospectus but the 1.2016.15 would mean it is the first IFB of 2016 and it is a 15 year tenor.

Correct

wish it was 15%...that's a contact income for 15 years.


Slight discount will be available...


Please share the prospectus here.

Thanks.


When it's released....bado haijatoka


I have some maturing papers around 17-Oct, I hope this auction will be around end of the month!
I'm
Pray Pray Pray


You are very safe...


@maka if this happens it will be welcome. However it would be the 2nd IFB. If I remember correctly, there was another in May for 9 years.


Right...

possunt quia posse videntur
snipermnoma
#226 Posted : Monday, October 10, 2016 9:38:33 PM
Rank: Member

Joined: 1/3/2014
Posts: 257
maka wrote:
snipermnoma wrote:
maka wrote:
Impunity wrote:
maka wrote:
Impunity wrote:
maka wrote:
Impunity wrote:
maka wrote:
snipermnoma wrote:
Impunity wrote:
maka wrote:
IFB 1.2016.15....@12% ...October issue.


By 2016/15 you mean ndiu ndate is 15th?


Have not seen the prospectus but the 1.2016.15 would mean it is the first IFB of 2016 and it is a 15 year tenor.

Correct

wish it was 15%...that's a contact income for 15 years.


Slight discount will be available...


Please share the prospectus here.

Thanks.


When it's released....bado haijatoka


I have some maturing papers around 17-Oct, I hope this auction will be around end of the month!
I'm
Pray Pray Pray


You are very safe...


@maka if this happens it will be welcome. However it would be the 2nd IFB. If I remember correctly, there was another in May for 9 years.


Right...



Let us hope there will be a discount to improve the yield. However, I expect this one to be massively subscribed since banks and pension funds have few better options right now. Anyway, we will see.
Impunity
#227 Posted : Tuesday, October 11, 2016 10:53:38 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 3/2/2009
Posts: 26,331
Location: Masada
snipermnoma wrote:
maka wrote:
snipermnoma wrote:
maka wrote:
Impunity wrote:
maka wrote:
Impunity wrote:
maka wrote:
Impunity wrote:
maka wrote:
snipermnoma wrote:
Impunity wrote:
maka wrote:
IFB 1.2016.15....@12% ...October issue.


By 2016/15 you mean ndiu ndate is 15th?


Have not seen the prospectus but the 1.2016.15 would mean it is the first IFB of 2016 and it is a 15 year tenor.

Correct

wish it was 15%...that's a contact income for 15 years.


Slight discount will be available...


Please share the prospectus here.

Thanks.


When it's released....bado haijatoka


I have some maturing papers around 17-Oct, I hope this auction will be around end of the month!
I'm
Pray Pray Pray


You are very safe...


@maka if this happens it will be welcome. However it would be the 2nd IFB. If I remember correctly, there was another in May for 9 years.


Right...



Let us hope there will be a discount to improve the yield. However, I expect this one to be massively subscribed since banks and pension funds have few better options right now. Anyway, we will see.


Holding say 5M at CBK for 15 years seems crazy, so I think I would be able to dispose it sooner when I have a better deal outta here?

@maka? I have never sold IFB, please confirm its easier to sell them as compared to Other Bonds?
Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

Angelica _ann
#228 Posted : Tuesday, October 11, 2016 10:56:40 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 12/7/2012
Posts: 11,935
Impunity wrote:
snipermnoma wrote:
maka wrote:
snipermnoma wrote:
maka wrote:
Impunity wrote:
maka wrote:
Impunity wrote:
maka wrote:
Impunity wrote:
maka wrote:
snipermnoma wrote:
Impunity wrote:
maka wrote:
IFB 1.2016.15....@12% ...October issue.


By 2016/15 you mean ndiu ndate is 15th?


Have not seen the prospectus but the 1.2016.15 would mean it is the first IFB of 2016 and it is a 15 year tenor.

Correct

wish it was 15%...that's a contact income for 15 years.


Slight discount will be available...


Please share the prospectus here.

Thanks.


When it's released....bado haijatoka


I have some maturing papers around 17-Oct, I hope this auction will be around end of the month!
I'm
Pray Pray Pray


You are very safe...


@maka if this happens it will be welcome. However it would be the 2nd IFB. If I remember correctly, there was another in May for 9 years.


Right...



Let us hope there will be a discount to improve the yield. However, I expect this one to be massively subscribed since banks and pension funds have few better options right now. Anyway, we will see.


Holding say 5M at CBK for 15 years seems crazy, so I think I would be able to dispose it sooner when I have a better deal outta here?

@maka? I have never sold IFB, please confirm its easier to sell them as compared to Other Bonds?

I thought so, unless of course those big liquid pension funds, insurance etc smile smile smile
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AndyC
#229 Posted : Tuesday, October 11, 2016 11:18:10 AM
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Joined: 4/21/2015
Posts: 151
Redemption begins after 5 years which is 2021.
maka
#230 Posted : Tuesday, October 11, 2016 12:07:07 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 4/22/2010
Posts: 11,522
Location: Nairobi
Angelica _ann wrote:
Impunity wrote:
snipermnoma wrote:
maka wrote:
snipermnoma wrote:
maka wrote:
Impunity wrote:
maka wrote:
Impunity wrote:
maka wrote:
Impunity wrote:
maka wrote:
snipermnoma wrote:
Impunity wrote:
maka wrote:
IFB 1.2016.15....@12% ...October issue.


By 2016/15 you mean ndiu ndate is 15th?


Have not seen the prospectus but the 1.2016.15 would mean it is the first IFB of 2016 and it is a 15 year tenor.

Correct

wish it was 15%...that's a contact income for 15 years.


Slight discount will be available...


Please share the prospectus here.

Thanks.


When it's released....bado haijatoka


I have some maturing papers around 17-Oct, I hope this auction will be around end of the month!
I'm
Pray Pray Pray


You are very safe...


@maka if this happens it will be welcome. However it would be the 2nd IFB. If I remember correctly, there was another in May for 9 years.


Right...



Let us hope there will be a discount to improve the yield. However, I expect this one to be massively subscribed since banks and pension funds have few better options right now. Anyway, we will see.


Holding say 5M at CBK for 15 years seems crazy, so I think I would be able to dispose it sooner when I have a better deal outta here?

@maka? I have never sold IFB, please confirm its easier to sell them as compared to Other Bonds?

I thought so, unless of course those big liquid pension funds, insurance etc smile smile smile


IFBs are easier to sell....
possunt quia posse videntur
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