. AlphDoti you know the fact that albeit i came here two years ago doesn't mean I spend my whole 2 weeks 24hrs a day going back reading everything on wazua...we ask questions as they arise but your detailed answer leaves alot to be desired

Quran 8:12. "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"

I know even verses in bible say worse things than this. ..I know. .but Christians don't do this heinous acts in the name of religion as the latter. Christians stopped long time ago but I don't know why some ideologies borrowed from the book are being used to kill Christians in the name of religion.
It perplexes me alot. I'm done and no more comments. .

The last couple of posts here by @alpha are worthy of praise - at least the spirit I read as carried therein.
Ho do we get other Muslims to view their faith that way.
How can @ alpha help in that regard!
How do we get mosques to preach that kind of cool headed version of the faith!

Why do so many in the faith seem to embrace militarism!

Why do so many Muslims habour deep hatred of Christians/The West and their interests real and perceived!

Does such hatred inform the so common militarism!
How safe is it to keep painting other people (falsely in most cases) as enemies of one's faith - The Israelis, US/West in general.

How much can those who imparted such twisted lessons to their youth & other faithfuls blame them when they decide to actively fight the perceived enemies!!

@enyands, you bringing this up, claiming that this verse promotes terrorism, simply shows your lack of knowledge on Islam. Even though I corrected you yet you went ahead and bring same argument which has been discussed over and over again shows how little you know about Islam.

Anyway, before I proceed, I want you to open your Bible Isaiah 37:36: When God wanted to rescue Jerusalem from being attacked by Sennacherib, He needed only ONE angel to kill 185,000 Assyrian warriors in a single night. "And when they arose early in the morning, behold, they were all dead corpses."

So to make things easier for you @enyands, I will give the explanation of the verse Quran 8:12 coz I don't want us to continue when your mental information is incorrect and distorted.

This verse is refers to a SPECIFIC BATTLE, that took place called the battle of Badr. This verse is not an order on Muslims. It is an historical event just like Isaiah 37:36 in the Bible...

Quran 8:12 "When your Lord revealed to the angels: I am with you, therefore make firm those who believe. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them."

So as you can see, these events (Bible & Quran) were taking place during a battle. What is wrong with angels in the Quran fighting alongside the prophet of God Muhammad just like the angels in the Bible fought alongside Isaiah and helped him kill 185,000 people?

Elder Alphdoti thanks so much for due diligence . As you can see my earlier message I mentioned that I'm not saying that the Bible doesn't have such terrifying verses ,they do have such versus ....just check my 1st thread, but what I was basing my argument on was "why is it easy for terrorist to use those verses from holy Quran to justify their deeds ,whereas as much as our Bible have such sentiments ,Christians don't use the same to do atrocities in this current age ?"

I'm well conversant with holy Quran my brother and my favorite part is the part they talk of when allah made seven sleepers sleep and the guard dog for so many years ...you know the story .

All I'm doing is just trying to get the link between the two (why easy for terrorist to use terrifying verses from holy Quran to do bad stuffs in this current age!). I never question Islam as a religion my brother. So I will Never be disrespectful to your religion sir

@enyands, there are so many verses, which are intentionally misinterpreted in the Quran. Some pple quote them and say that this or that verse promotes violence at a glance. But if you read it carefully you’ll find that it doesn’t. Sometime they quote a verse. But when you ask them does this verse stop here? You realize, no it doesn't. It continues and gives the actual reason as to the fighting etc

I can spend my entire life showing you many, many verses throughout the Quran which throw the lie of terrorism out of the window. But I hope you get the point...

Let me know if you still have any question.

Let us not confuse Muslims for Islam, or Christians for Christianity.

Otherwise, that would be extreme bigotry.

It is unfortunate that people have become what they are being fed. As @kaka once said that most Kenyans are more or less tribal, and hating, although they may hide this and not as explicit.

So you find people speak badly of the Muslims, calling them terrorists, that sort of thing.
If you're sincere and analyze the media style of reporting, you realize it's designed like that...

But if you are sincere, looking without bias, you'll realize Islam is something different to how the media reports.