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washiku
#21 Posted : Sunday, October 02, 2016 9:19:21 PM
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Karonjo breathing fire today at Tononoka and Pillbond says Babu should retire and wait for a nice position in a CORD govt. Interesting times ahead.
Fullykenyan
#22 Posted : Sunday, October 02, 2016 11:52:53 PM
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I dont understand why Odm´s brigade always have shout "Raila Amollo Odinga". Before he was simply known as Raila Odinga, tosha gari!!. Why madoido all the time. They copied from Kanu, when in 2002 they kept on referring to Uhuru as Uhuru Muigai Kenyatta. RAO has tendecies of a Dictator and i would rather not have him as my President
chiaroscuro
#23 Posted : Monday, October 03, 2016 9:50:59 AM
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Kaigangio wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:
Bigchick wrote:
Baratang wrote:


What is that that I can see on the back of babus seat...HON. PRIME MINISTER??? Seriously this guy is still living in pre-March 2013.



And it is very worrying.What is his state of mind?what is the state of mind of his followers/fans?



The grand mullah ran a poll on Twitter from Friday. Not scientific but 2000 of his followers voted as below regarding our govts since independence.

Most corrupt regime

1. Uhuru
2. Moi
3. Jomo
4. Kibaki

Most tribal regime

1. Uhuru
2. Moi
3. Jomo
4. Kibaki.

As you can see, you guys have 99 problems. Rao is not of them. And well done in beating moi. Applause Applause Applause


@FRM2011...I will tell you why mullah's polls and observations ni upuzi mtupu.

Most of the people in tweeter in Kenya today, about 95% are less than 35 years of age and as such they know absolutely nothing about Jomo apart from what they read and hear about him...mostly political misinformation.

Next, a large number of pollsters within that 95% were probably about 10 to 15 years of age when Moi retired from presidency. They were in primary schools. It is highly unlikely that they knew much about Moi and of what was going on in political circles other than what they were reading and hearing...a lot of political misinformation. This is the age breacket then, where you will find those goons who believe that RAO has never lost any election since 1997 and others who believe that Kibaki was the best president has ever had and will ever have today.

I will leave it to you to figure out what percentage of the 2000 polsters knew Jomo and Moi.smile





It's a "perception poll"

Its only value is to a political strategist. It helps design a communication strategy; nothing else.

The vast majority believe that Jesus was born on December 25 of Year 1, AD; the truth is very far from that!
keraka
#24 Posted : Monday, October 03, 2016 1:05:09 PM
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Kaigangio wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:
Bigchick wrote:
Baratang wrote:


What is that that I can see on the back of babus seat...HON. PRIME MINISTER??? Seriously this guy is still living in pre-March 2013.



And it is very worrying.What is his state of mind?what is the state of mind of his followers/fans?



The grand mullah ran a poll on Twitter from Friday. Not scientific but 2000 of his followers voted as below regarding our govts since independence.

Most corrupt regime

1. Uhuru
2. Moi
3. Jomo
4. Kibaki

Most tribal regime

1. Uhuru
2. Moi
3. Jomo
4. Kibaki.

As you can see, you guys have 99 problems. Rao is not of them. And well done in beating moi. Applause Applause Applause


@FRM2011...I will tell you why mullah's polls and observations ni upuzi mtupu.

Most of the people in tweeter in Kenya today, about 95% are less than 35 years of age and as such they know absolutely nothing about Jomo apart from what they read and hear about him...mostly political misinformation.

Next, a large number of pollsters within that 95% were probably about 10 to 15 years of age when Moi retired from presidency. They were in primary schools. It is highly unlikely that they knew much about Moi and of what was going on in political circles other than what they were reading and hearing...a lot of political misinformation. This is the age breacket then, where you will find those goons who believe that RAO has never lost any election since 1997 and others who believe that Kibaki was the best president has ever had and will ever have today.

I will leave it to you to figure out what percentage of the 2000 polsters knew Jomo and Moi.smile



Kindly explain to us as you would to a baby.Are you insunating that this regime is not corrupt or rather even if it is,its not as corrupt as they used to be.
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.
Impunity
#25 Posted : Monday, October 03, 2016 2:13:18 PM
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Location: Masada
Fullykenyan wrote:
I dont understand why Odm´s brigade always have shout "Raila Amollo Odinga". Before he was simply known as Raila Odinga, tosha gari!!. Why madoido all the time. They copied from Kanu, when in 2002 they kept on referring to Uhuru as Uhuru Muigai Kenyatta. RAO has tendecies of a Dictator and i would rather not have him as my President


Thats your sole vote.
Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

Kaigangio
#26 Posted : Monday, October 03, 2016 4:23:01 PM
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Joined: 2/27/2007
Posts: 2,768
keraka wrote:
Kaigangio wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:
Bigchick wrote:
Baratang wrote:


What is that that I can see on the back of babus seat...HON. PRIME MINISTER??? Seriously this guy is still living in pre-March 2013.



And it is very worrying.What is his state of mind?what is the state of mind of his followers/fans?



The grand mullah ran a poll on Twitter from Friday. Not scientific but 2000 of his followers voted as below regarding our govts since independence.

Most corrupt regime

1. Uhuru
2. Moi
3. Jomo
4. Kibaki

Most tribal regime

1. Uhuru
2. Moi
3. Jomo
4. Kibaki.

As you can see, you guys have 99 problems. Rao is not of them. And well done in beating moi. Applause Applause Applause


@FRM2011...I will tell you why mullah's polls and observations ni upuzi mtupu.

Most of the people in tweeter in Kenya today, about 95% are less than 35 years of age and as such they know absolutely nothing about Jomo apart from what they read and hear about him...mostly political misinformation.

Next, a large number of pollsters within that 95% were probably about 10 to 15 years of age when Moi retired from presidency. They were in primary schools. It is highly unlikely that they knew much about Moi and of what was going on in political circles other than what they were reading and hearing...a lot of political misinformation. This is the age breacket then, where you will find those goons who believe that RAO has never lost any election since 1997 and others who believe that Kibaki was the best president has ever had and will ever have today.

I will leave it to you to figure out what percentage of the 2000 polsters knew Jomo and Moi.smile



Kindly explain to us as you would to a baby.Are you insunating that this regime is not corrupt or rather even if it is,its not as corrupt as they used to be.


You see @keraka we passed a new constitution and with it came a new system of government where the head of state has very little hand in. There are still no new mechanisms to deal with the corruption at the county level except the inept courts which are doing very little indeed, if any, to tame the vice. As long as no new laws will be put in place to address the corruption in the counties, no matter how clean the national government will be, its image will be and always be tainted by the counties governments.

Also in the current scenario the national government has no hand in what happens within the county government except financial disbursements from the national treasury to the county. As such it would not be fair to associate the national government with the corruption that is happening in the counties.

...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...
2012
#27 Posted : Monday, October 03, 2016 6:14:07 PM
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I hope they can reorganise and get serious and take 2022.

BBI will solve it
:)
Angelica _ann
#28 Posted : Monday, October 03, 2016 6:43:55 PM
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So county governments are corrupt, but national government ni safi kama pamba. Isorite
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
sitaki.kujulikana
#29 Posted : Monday, October 03, 2016 6:51:00 PM
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Joined: 8/25/2012
Posts: 1,826
Kaigangio wrote:
keraka wrote:
Kaigangio wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:
Bigchick wrote:
Baratang wrote:


What is that that I can see on the back of babus seat...HON. PRIME MINISTER??? Seriously this guy is still living in pre-March 2013.



And it is very worrying.What is his state of mind?what is the state of mind of his followers/fans?



The grand mullah ran a poll on Twitter from Friday. Not scientific but 2000 of his followers voted as below regarding our govts since independence.

Most corrupt regime

1. Uhuru
2. Moi
3. Jomo
4. Kibaki

Most tribal regime

1. Uhuru
2. Moi
3. Jomo
4. Kibaki.

As you can see, you guys have 99 problems. Rao is not of them. And well done in beating moi. Applause Applause Applause


@FRM2011...I will tell you why mullah's polls and observations ni upuzi mtupu.

Most of the people in tweeter in Kenya today, about 95% are less than 35 years of age and as such they know absolutely nothing about Jomo apart from what they read and hear about him...mostly political misinformation.

Next, a large number of pollsters within that 95% were probably about 10 to 15 years of age when Moi retired from presidency. They were in primary schools. It is highly unlikely that they knew much about Moi and of what was going on in political circles other than what they were reading and hearing...a lot of political misinformation. This is the age breacket then, where you will find those goons who believe that RAO has never lost any election since 1997 and others who believe that Kibaki was the best president has ever had and will ever have today.

I will leave it to you to figure out what percentage of the 2000 polsters knew Jomo and Moi.smile



Kindly explain to us as you would to a baby.Are you insunating that this regime is not corrupt or rather even if it is,its not as corrupt as they used to be.


You see @keraka we passed a new constitution and with it came a new system of government where the head of state has very little hand in. There are still no new mechanisms to deal with the corruption at the county level except the inept courts which are doing very little indeed, if any, to tame the vice. As long as no new laws will be put in place to address the corruption in the counties, no matter how clean the national government will be, its image will be and always be tainted by the counties governments.

Also in the current scenario the national government has no hand in what happens within the county government except financial disbursements from the national treasury to the county. As such it would not be fair to associate the national government with the corruption that is happening in the counties.


I don't know how one can even mention the first two regimes, those guys were crazy, just crazy, especially when it came to corruption, and dealing with political dissent.
Kaigangio
#30 Posted : Monday, October 03, 2016 7:25:27 PM
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Posts: 2,768
Angelica _ann wrote:
So county governments are corrupt, but national government ni safi kama pamba. Isorite


Oooohhh mama!smile no body said that the national government is clean. All that I am saying is spare the national government any blame for thiefery in county governments. The national government has its own share in the corruption aggregate value.
...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...
hardwood
#31 Posted : Monday, October 03, 2016 8:36:34 PM
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Hehe. I laughed when Wetangula said that in his bukusu culture, baba was like an impotent man who marries a young woman and the man anajaribu kudunga mimba year 1, 2 and 3 without success. Then the aunties are forced to call the young wife kando and inform her the hussy must be firing blanks and therefore she should tembea nje kidogo and get a ndume that will give her a kid. So anatembea nje and then comes back and everyone thinks the kid belongs to the hussy.

So he said baba amejaribu mara moja, mbili, tatu na bado hakuna dalili ya kupata and so he should give the chance to someone else.

Let me look for that video to post it coz its very interesting.
enyands
#32 Posted : Monday, October 03, 2016 8:41:49 PM
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hardwood wrote:
Hehe. I laughed when Wetangula said that in his bukusu culture, baba was like an impotent man who marries a young woman and the man anajaribu kudunga mimba year 1, 2 and 3 without success. Then the aunties are forced to call the young wife kando and inform her the hussy must be firing blanks and therefore she should tembea nje kidogo and get a ndume that will give her a kid. So anatembea nje and then comes back and everyone thinks the kid belongs to the hussy.

So he said baba amejaribu mara moja, mbili, tatu na bado hakuna dalili ya kupata and so he should give the chance to someone else.

Let me look for that video to post it coz its very interesting.



Dunga is the word bukusu call it tunka mimba
hardwood
#33 Posted : Monday, October 03, 2016 8:59:38 PM
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enyands wrote:
hardwood wrote:
Hehe. I laughed when Wetangula said that in his bukusu culture, baba was like an impotent man who marries a young woman and the man anajaribu kudunga mimba year 1, 2 and 3 without success. Then the aunties are forced to call the young wife kando and inform her the hussy must be firing blanks and therefore she should tembea nje kidogo and get a ndume that will give her a kid. So anatembea nje and then comes back and everyone thinks the kid belongs to the hussy.

So he said baba amejaribu mara moja, mbili, tatu na bado hakuna dalili ya kupata and so he should give the chance to someone else.

Let me look for that video to post it coz its very interesting.



Dunga is the word bukusu call it tunka mimba

Kalonzo was alao quoted saying hes tired of being in the cold being a nobody, not even mca, while those who used his name to get elected from mcas to governors wanakula nyama akumeza mate. He said he is willing to support anyone who will guarantee he gets some nyama. I think both Wetangula and kalonzo may defect to jubilee and get into the kitchen where nyama is being prepared now that they know baba will loose in 2017 and to make matters worse baba has abandoned them preferring Joho as running mate.
Politics is all about interests, not love. That is why many yrs ago baba betrayed the opposition and joined Mois Kanu and kicked out Kamotho and became the Kanu Secretary-General.
Rahatupu
#34 Posted : Monday, October 03, 2016 9:19:20 PM
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The two pretenders were crowned "co-proncipals" by Babu and they fell for it. Now Babu is about to take his crowns......teren teren.... ndrama
newfarer
#35 Posted : Monday, October 03, 2016 9:24:47 PM
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What if baba joins Jubilee, watado?
punda amecheka
hardwood
#36 Posted : Monday, October 03, 2016 10:27:41 PM
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newfarer wrote:
What if baba joins Jubilee, watado?

It's very possible he could run away from the opposition again and go to Kula nyama in gov't. Some time back he ran away from opposison and married Kanu and was made minister and Kanu Secretary General. And ate nyama in form of mollases, oilo, etc.
shocks
#37 Posted : Monday, October 03, 2016 10:53:40 PM
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hardwood wrote:
newfarer wrote:
What if baba joins Jubilee, watado?

It's very possible he could run away from the opposition again and go to Kula nyama in gov't. Some time back he ran away from opposison and married Kanu and was made minister and Kanu Secretary General. And ate nyama in form of mollases, oilo, etc.

It will be explained by something like, I joined Jubilee to break it from within!
Baratang
#38 Posted : Monday, October 03, 2016 11:00:35 PM
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hardwood wrote:
newfarer wrote:
What if baba joins Jubilee, watado?

It's very possible he could run away from the opposition again and go to Kula nyama in gov't. Some time back he ran away from opposison and married Kanu and was made minister and Kanu Secretary General. And ate nyama in form of mollases, oilo, etc.

I doubt Ruto would allow that to happen.
washiku
#39 Posted : Tuesday, October 04, 2016 9:02:09 AM
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The only way they will survive...Go on their knees.

Iganamagana
#40 Posted : Tuesday, October 04, 2016 12:05:55 PM
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shocks wrote:
hardwood wrote:
newfarer wrote:
What if baba joins Jubilee, watado?

It's very possible he could run away from the opposition again and go to Kula nyama in gov't. Some time back he ran away from opposison and married Kanu and was made minister and Kanu Secretary General. And ate nyama in form of mollases, oilo, etc.

It will be explained by something like, I joined Jubilee to break it from within!


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