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Baratang wrote:AlphDoti wrote:And it is ironical to see those who have majored this in their own homeground condemning Kina Mandago. I ask some locals why I cannot see kiosk or wholesale or rental building etc in Nyeri town etc belonging to Jaruo or kale or Luhyia... they gave me shocking answer... So tunadanganya nani hapa? @Alphdoti, So you went round from shop to shop kiosk to kiosk enquiring about and recording the owners' ethnic backgrounds? What @Alpha is talking about is the scenario you encounter when you shop at Tuskys Kisumo, you dont sampling or inquiries, it is obvious stuff........ Just saying  In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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PeterReborn wrote:AlphDoti wrote:PeterReborn wrote:AlphDoti wrote:And it is ironical to see those who have majored this in their own homeground condemning Kina Mandago. I ask some locals why I cannot see kiosk or wholesale or rental building etc in Nyeri town etc belonging to Jaruo or kale or Luhyia... they gave me shocking answer... So tunadanganya nani hapa? Do you even know where Nyeri town is ama kazi yako ni tu kunyambanyamba hapa.Do you know who run the garages in Karatina town.Who now have invaded selling of new cloths in Nyeri?Ondoa upuzi hapa. @peter, learn to read carefully... Who mentioned mechanic garages? Who mentioned selling of clothes? Read again... and when you can find one, please call me I go see the wonder. There is no difference between your level of thinking with that of Mawinder and Impunity.At least the two are courageous enough to speak up their minds.It is like Trump saying that he is not a racist and loves black people.Any intelligent person can read between the lines. @peter, all I'm saying is, let people remove the logs in their eyes before pointing out the specks in others. We are blaming others for being tribal, when we are number one... in almost every league. @Baratang, that is common sense. You want me to tell you yes I've lived there and seen it all for you to agree? Why would I even go there, it is an open secret. Shame!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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AlphDoti wrote:PeterReborn wrote:AlphDoti wrote:PeterReborn wrote:AlphDoti wrote:And it is ironical to see those who have majored this in their own homeground condemning Kina Mandago. I ask some locals why I cannot see kiosk or wholesale or rental building etc in Nyeri town etc belonging to Jaruo or kale or Luhyia... they gave me shocking answer... So tunadanganya nani hapa? Do you even know where Nyeri town is ama kazi yako ni tu kunyambanyamba hapa.Do you know who run the garages in Karatina town.Who now have invaded selling of new cloths in Nyeri?Ondoa upuzi hapa. @peter, learn to read carefully... Who mentioned mechanic garages? Who mentioned selling of clothes? Read again... and when you can find one, please call me I go see the wonder. There is no difference between your level of thinking with that of Mawinder and Impunity.At least the two are courageous enough to speak up their minds.It is like Trump saying that he is not a racist and loves black people.Any intelligent person can read between the lines. @peter, all I'm saying is, let people remove the logs in their eyes before pointing out the specks in others. We are blaming others for being tribal, when we are number one... in almost every league. @Baratang, that is common sense. You want me to tell you yes I've lived there and seen it all for you to agree? Why would I even go there, it is an open secret. Shame! hahaha!! I am tribalist because these people are tribalist! The number of times this hypocrite has pontificated here is uncountable. Yet he is unable to hide his absolute hate for one community. Utapona AlphDoti
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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ati commonsense...yuck!! Hata kama ni chuki, hii yako Imam DOti imezidi
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/5/2010 Posts: 2,459
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AlphDoti wrote:And it is ironical to see those who have majored this in their own homeground condemning Kina Mandago. I ask some locals why I cannot see kiosk or wholesale or rental building etc in Nyeri town etc belonging to Jaruo or kale or Luhyia... they gave me shocking answer... So tunadanganya nani hapa? @alphadoti, we've known you in these streets for your steadfast defence of your religion which we respect. But now you have decided to be petty. Did you know in 1992 muranga town residents voted in a luo councillor on a ford-asili ticket ? Would you believe it if I told you that in the hotly contested 1997 elections, there was a polling centre whose presiding officer was a luo in nyeri. The guy teaches in a nearby high school. Why is it that the highly qualified and discriminated community you are telling us about doesn't have a single ceo in the private sector. But they hog all the parastatals controlled by urp ? Why is the VC of muranga university a luo ? MKU ? Sorry but I have to tell you this; spoilt kids who know they can get away with anything. In 2007, a mob overran kesses police station and killed the DO and Ap inspector. In 2015, a mob overran kamombo police station in nandi beat up the ocpd and dcio, killed three suspects locked in and no one was arrested.
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We have a serious impunity issue with 2 communities in this country. Both of them are rv. The Governor of Nyeri - 2017
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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FRM2011 wrote:AlphDoti wrote:And it is ironical to see those who have majored this in their own homeground condemning Kina Mandago. I ask some locals why I cannot see kiosk or wholesale or rental building etc in Nyeri town etc belonging to Jaruo or kale or Luhyia... they gave me shocking answer... So tunadanganya nani hapa? @alphadoti, we've known you in these streets for your steadfast defence of your religion which we respect. But now you have decided to be petty. Did you know in 1992 muranga town residents voted in a luo councillor on a ford-asili ticket ? Would you believe it if I told you that in the hotly contested 1997 elections, there was a polling centre whose presiding officer was a luo in nyeri. The guy teaches in a nearby high school. Why is it that the highly qualified and discriminated community you are telling us about doesn't have a single ceo in the private sector. But they hog all the parastatals controlled by urp ? Why is the VC of muranga university a luo ? MKU ? Sorry but I have to tell you this; spoilt kids who know they can get away with anything. In 2007, a mob overran kesses police station and killed the DO and Ap inspector. In 2015, a mob overran kamombo police station in nandi beat up the ocpd and dcio, killed three suspects locked in and no one was arrested. @FRM2011, I've said here again and again that I do not CONDONE sporadic, random killing by anyone against anyone! Whether done by Kales or Kyuk or anyone! NO MATTER where or ANYWHERE... No one is allowed to go out and kill. I'm AGAINST killing. Even those thugs who are killing people everyday in Nairobi... We know who the majority of "them" are, why are you not against this. Go to any prison, those on life or death sentence are from where? Didn't they kill or rob human beings? Or the lives of those innocent people robbed, killed in our towns are less important than the police in Kamobo or Kesses or wherever? Why point a finger to others when rest of the fingers are pointing back at you! What I'm also against is tribalism. And I'm so against those who perpetrate tribalism and cry foul when others do the same against them... This is called hypocrisy.
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AlphDoti wrote:FRM2011 wrote:AlphDoti wrote:And it is ironical to see those who have majored this in their own homeground condemning Kina Mandago. I ask some locals why I cannot see kiosk or wholesale or rental building etc in Nyeri town etc belonging to Jaruo or kale or Luhyia... they gave me shocking answer... So tunadanganya nani hapa? @alphadoti, we've known you in these streets for your steadfast defence of your religion which we respect. But now you have decided to be petty. Did you know in 1992 muranga town residents voted in a luo councillor on a ford-asili ticket ? Would you believe it if I told you that in the hotly contested 1997 elections, there was a polling centre whose presiding officer was a luo in nyeri. The guy teaches in a nearby high school. Why is it that the highly qualified and discriminated community you are telling us about doesn't have a single ceo in the private sector. But they hog all the parastatals controlled by urp ? Why is the VC of muranga university a luo ? MKU ? Sorry but I have to tell you this; spoilt kids who know they can get away with anything. In 2007, a mob overran kesses police station and killed the DO and Ap inspector. In 2015, a mob overran kamombo police station in nandi beat up the ocpd and dcio, killed three suspects locked in and no one was arrested. @FRM2011, I've said here again and again that I do not CONDONE sporadic, random killing by anyone against anyone! Whether done by Kales or Kyuk or anyone! NO MATTER where or ANYWHERE... No one is allowed to go out and kill. I'm AGAINST killing. Even those thugs who are killing people everyday in Nairobi... We know who the majority of "them" are, why are you not against this. Go to any prison, those on life or death sentence are from where? Didn't they kill or rob human beings? Or the lives of those innocent people robbed, killed in our towns are less important than the police in Kamobo or Kesses or wherever? Why point a finger to others when rest of the fingers are pointing back at you! What I'm also against is tribalism. And I'm so against those who perpetrate tribalism and cry foul when others do the same against them... This is called hypocrisy. You didn't get me bro. No one has ever attacked a police station in kenya and gotten away with it except...... We have untouchables in this country. That's all am saying.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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FRM2011 wrote:AlphDoti wrote:FRM2011 wrote:AlphDoti wrote:And it is ironical to see those who have majored this in their own homeground condemning Kina Mandago. I ask some locals why I cannot see kiosk or wholesale or rental building etc in Nyeri town etc belonging to Jaruo or kale or Luhyia... they gave me shocking answer... So tunadanganya nani hapa? @alphadoti, we've known you in these streets for your steadfast defence of your religion which we respect. But now you have decided to be petty. Did you know in 1992 muranga town residents voted in a luo councillor on a ford-asili ticket ? Would you believe it if I told you that in the hotly contested 1997 elections, there was a polling centre whose presiding officer was a luo in nyeri. The guy teaches in a nearby high school. Why is it that the highly qualified and discriminated community you are telling us about doesn't have a single ceo in the private sector. But they hog all the parastatals controlled by urp ? Why is the VC of muranga university a luo ? MKU ? Sorry but I have to tell you this; spoilt kids who know they can get away with anything. In 2007, a mob overran kesses police station and killed the DO and Ap inspector. In 2015, a mob overran kamombo police station in nandi beat up the ocpd and dcio, killed three suspects locked in and no one was arrested. @FRM2011, I've said here again and again that I do not CONDONE sporadic, random killing by anyone against anyone! Whether done by Kales or Kyuk or anyone! NO MATTER where or ANYWHERE... No one is allowed to go out and kill. I'm AGAINST killing. Even those thugs who are killing people everyday in Nairobi... We know who the majority of "them" are, why are you not against this. Go to any prison, those on life or death sentence are from where? Didn't they kill or rob human beings? Or the lives of those innocent people robbed, killed in our towns are less important than the police in Kamobo or Kesses or wherever? Why point a finger to others when rest of the fingers are pointing back at you! What I'm also against is tribalism. And I'm so against those who perpetrate tribalism and cry foul when others do the same against them... This is called hypocrisy. You didn't get me bro. No one has ever attacked a police station in kenya and gotten away with it except...... We have untouchables in this country. That's all am saying. I understand you now... When we say we condemn the killing of pple just like that, it doesn't mean we're condoning any of their actions (inmates, police, etc). NO! It doesn't mean we're agreeing with every aspect of the actions of police or the robbers, or the thieves who kill their victims etc Because no one should go around killing people. Even if they disagree! Because they are human beings AND our duty towards them is to correct them, to express our disagreement... Similarly, I disagree with TRIBALISTS. I disagree more with those who carry out tribalism against others, and when those others do the same, they cry foul!
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My position on a matter is X if you don't agree with X - you must be a tribalist. Why else would you not agree with X while "everyone" else a.k.a. the "people" do/does? All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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masukuma wrote:My position on a matter is X if you don't agree with X - you must be a tribalist. Why else would you not agree with X while "everyone" else a.k.a. the "people" do/does? No. Tribalism in Kenya is belonging to the tribe of "these people" AlphDoti is not a tribalist.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Lolest! wrote:masukuma wrote:My position on a matter is X if you don't agree with X - you must be a tribalist. Why else would you not agree with X while "everyone" else a.k.a. the "people" do/does? No. Tribalism in Kenya is belonging to the tribe of "these people" AlphDoti is not a tribalist. I've clearly stated, I'm AGAINST tribalism, I cannot CONDONE tribalism by anyone against anyone! What has caused this debate is that, yes the victims in Eldy maybe perceived as tribal, we may disagree with what they did. BUT! How can we go out and condemn them yet we are propagating the same sickness in "our" regions? This is my point. I did not mean to imply that kina Mandago did good, no. I was just against hypocrisy and arrogance and sense of belonging that we witness around nowadays...
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AlphDoti wrote:Lolest! wrote:masukuma wrote:My position on a matter is X if you don't agree with X - you must be a tribalist. Why else would you not agree with X while "everyone" else a.k.a. the "people" do/does? No. Tribalism in Kenya is belonging to the tribe of "these people" AlphDoti is not a tribalist. I've clearly stated, I'm AGAINST tribalism, I cannot CONDONE tribalism by anyone against anyone! What has caused this debate is that, yes the victims in Eldy maybe perceived as tribal, we may disagree with what they did. BUT! How can we go out and condemn them yet we are propagating the same sickness in "our" regions? This is my point. I did not mean to imply that kina Mandago did good, no. I was just against hypocrisy and arrogance and sense of belonging that we witness around nowadays... @Alphadoti, to simplify this for you. Arguing that everyone else is doing it is not a defense. What the RV politicians are trying to do is no different from what many think and do in private, but doing it openly and with impunity is wrong and must be condemned. "The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Lolest! wrote:masukuma wrote:My position on a matter is X if you don't agree with X - you must be a tribalist. Why else would you not agree with X while "everyone" else a.k.a. the "people" do/does? No. Tribalism in Kenya is belonging to the tribe of "these people" AlphDoti is not a tribalist. I've clearly stated, I'm AGAINST tribalism, I cannot CONDONE tribalism by anyone against anyone! What has caused this debate is that, yes the victims in Eldy maybe perceived as tribal, we may disagree with what they did. BUT! How can we go out and condemn them yet we are propagating the same sickness in "our" regions? This is my point. I did not mean to imply that kina Mandago did good, no. I was just against hypocrisy and arrogance and sense of belonging that we witness around nowadays... @Alphadoti, to simplify this for you. Arguing that everyone else is doing it is not a defense. What the RV politicians are trying to do is no different from what many think and do in private, but doing it openly and with impunity is wrong and must be condemned. Who is not doing with impunity? Show me! In other words you are saying if "they" do it quietly, then it is okay? No, I will not keep quiet while I see hypocrites. To me, whether done openly or silently, all is wrong. What pisses me off are those who see no evil, hear no evil, talk no evil when it's done "silently" in their region.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 6/23/2011 Posts: 1,740 Location: Nairobi
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Let me say it here very clearly those who practise this vice , do so for their own individual benefits.
It greatly concerns me when I see the rest of us following them like sheep ready to be slaughtered.
Guys wake up and realise those who oppress you in in terms of power and poverty are the rich and the thief’s who go around showing off and shouting and the top of their mouths.
Like has been said before, siasa ya tumbo turned to community affair. Shame shame shame ..
The day Kenyans will wake up to this reality our country will be great again
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streetwise wrote:Let me say it here very clearly those who practise this vice , do so for their own individual benefits.
It greatly concerns me when I see the rest of us following them like sheep ready to be slaughtered.
Guys wake up and realise those who oppress you in in terms of power and poverty are the rich and the thief’s who go around showing off and shouting and the top of their mouths.
Like has been said before, siasa ya tumbo turned to community affair. Shame shame shame ..
The day Kenyans will wake up to this reality our country will be great again
When was it great?
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mkeiy wrote:streetwise wrote:Let me say it here very clearly those who practise this vice , do so for their own individual benefits.
It greatly concerns me when I see the rest of us following them like sheep ready to be slaughtered.
Guys wake up and realise those who oppress you in in terms of power and poverty are the rich and the thief’s who go around showing off and shouting and the top of their mouths.
Like has been said before, siasa ya tumbo turned to community affair. Shame shame shame ..
The day Kenyans will wake up to this reality our country will be great again
When was it great? Before colonization! If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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