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KenolKobil vs. EA Portland?
Horton
#11 Posted : Saturday, April 24, 2010 3:12:04 PM
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
Kenyamoja, you consider 5-7 yaers medium term? To others (including me) that is LOOOOOOOOOOONG! Anyway, Kenol Kobil is way better. Their expansion into the region and beyond is commendable. Portland is facing too much competition. But given the chance I would pick Total (at 30-35 bob) over Kenol anyday. This is the time to accumulate on it before it shoots. Its acquisition of Caltex/Chevron was a good deal


YCSUN--why would u say the caltex acquisition is a good deal? Total overpaid, increase their debt levels to disproportionate levels, paying over 11% in interest due to the acquisition, Chevron kenya was a loss making entity even when most marketers were having their best years, they paid premium price to the asset value & they are basically diluting the ordinary shareholder(quite similar to the cadbury acquisition by kraft foods) . The only advantage i could see here is synergy for total.

Also total have been quite lethargic in making these "synergies" work for them...case in point, rebranding of stations in key areas eg westlands is not yet done
Gordon Gekko
#12 Posted : Friday, April 30, 2010 6:58:32 AM
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EAPC seems to have gone out of control yesterday, more of the same today?
Wa_ithaka
#13 Posted : Friday, April 30, 2010 7:10:07 AM
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Kenyambili-why not Carbacid for your industrial portfolio?
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ProverB
#14 Posted : Friday, April 30, 2010 7:16:00 AM
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kenyamoja wrote:
I've had my mind on these two for a while and I want to jump in for the medium term abt 5-7 yrs. Now, good wazurians, any insights on the more profitable of either?
I'm looking at both capital gains and dividends btwn now and 2017!!!!


Dude/duddete...
what system of analysis are you using to determine what you have? delink thinking from company and stick to that system..

e.g low p/e (or preferably low psr), ROE atleast 15 % per year..(don't consider asset base since both have very different asset requirements) debt-equity ratio, cash...

you have a seven year window..Yes but analyse again once a year..to make sure that your invested principle is doing as expected.. this means bearing all factors there are going to be some years EAPC is the better share to have...and some years Kenol is the better pick..change your portfolio accordingly...ignore company..stick to your investment strategy..eg i buy only those counters with an average ROE>17% over last 3 years, PSR<1.2..etc etc..and reevaluate portfolio in last week of march..if what i have is out of sync..i look for way out of it...if i find a new counter i missed last year..i buy...my buying is spread..on average over 6 weeks...my selling is on block..

our market is jus too small.
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