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Kusadikika
#21 Posted : Saturday, September 24, 2016 9:29:59 PM
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mkeiy wrote:
Kusadikika wrote:
masukuma wrote:
cyprus? What is the currency of Afghanistan? what is the Afghanistan demonym?


Cypriot. I think that would really sound good. I am a Kenyiot. I can hear the president starting a speech...My fellow KenyiotsLaughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

I don't think the British gave enough thought to naming us. They just mispronounced Kirinyaga as Kenya and thats it, they did not give it further thought. Even a half asleep Englishman could at least have advised to call it Kenyland so to at least rhyme with England and Scotland and Ireland in which case we would be proud Kenyish people. Anyhow they left us with Kenya and by default we became Kenyans.



@Kusadikika. Kenya is and was not a mispronounced Kirinyaga.

Kenya was a mispronounced Kinyaa

Kikamba word meaning 'mountain covered by snow'.
'Ki'denotes 'kiima'=mountain.
'Nyaa'means white snow.


Thanks for the correction Mkeiy. Much appreciated.

Anybody know what the people who lived around Lake Victoria called it before it was renamed Victoria?

Never mind I found it.

The Luo called it Nam Lolwe
Tha Baganda called it Nalubaale
The Nyarwanda called it Nyanza

Interesting that the province around the lake in Kenya was the Nyarwanda name for the lake Nyanza rather than the Luo name Nam Lolwe.

Are these names of the lake still in use? What do the Suba call the lake?
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AlphDoti
#22 Posted : Sunday, September 25, 2016 10:00:53 AM
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kaka2za wrote:
mkeiy wrote:
Kusadikika wrote:
masukuma wrote:
cyprus? What is the currency of Afghanistan? what is the Afghanistan demonym?


Cypriot. I think that would really sound good. I am a Kenyiot. I can hear the president starting a speech...My fellow KenyiotsLaughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

I don't think the British gave enough thought to naming us. They just mispronounced Kirinyaga as Kenya and thats it, they did not give it further thought. Even a half asleep Englishman could at least have advised to call it Kenyland so to at least rhyme with England and Scotland and Ireland in which case we would be proud Kenyish people. Anyhow they left us with Kenya and by default we became Kenyans.

@Kusadikika. Kenya is and was not a mispronounced Kirinyaga.

Kenya was a mispronounced Kinyaa

Kikamba word meaning 'mountain covered by snow'.
'Ki'denotes 'kiima'=mountain.
'Nyaa'means white snow.

I thought Kikamba is just bad Kikuyu!

@kaka2za, Why didn't you think the other way round? that proves your skewed thinking.
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masukuma
#23 Posted : Sunday, September 25, 2016 10:53:31 AM
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AlphDoti wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
mkeiy wrote:
Kusadikika wrote:
masukuma wrote:
cyprus? What is the currency of Afghanistan? what is the Afghanistan demonym?


Cypriot. I think that would really sound good. I am a Kenyiot. I can hear the president starting a speech...My fellow KenyiotsLaughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

I don't think the British gave enough thought to naming us. They just mispronounced Kirinyaga as Kenya and thats it, they did not give it further thought. Even a half asleep Englishman could at least have advised to call it Kenyland so to at least rhyme with England and Scotland and Ireland in which case we would be proud Kenyish people. Anyhow they left us with Kenya and by default we became Kenyans.

@Kusadikika. Kenya is and was not a mispronounced Kirinyaga.

Kenya was a mispronounced Kinyaa

Kikamba word meaning 'mountain covered by snow'.
'Ki'denotes 'kiima'=mountain.
'Nyaa'means white snow.

I thought Kikamba is just bad Kikuyu!

@kaka2za, Why didn't you think the other way round? that proves your skewed thinking.

the skew is due to prominence and recent narratives. To me Kikuyu's and Kambas are relatives - brothers or cousins at most. They share a common parentage but they branched out and developed on their own. None came from another but developed separately. Kikuyus also over run/assimilated the hunter gathers that were in their area and thus their genetic make up is not homogeneous.
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AlphDoti
#24 Posted : Sunday, September 25, 2016 11:29:05 AM
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masukuma wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
mkeiy wrote:
Kusadikika wrote:
masukuma wrote:
cyprus? What is the currency of Afghanistan? what is the Afghanistan demonym?


Cypriot. I think that would really sound good. I am a Kenyiot. I can hear the president starting a speech...My fellow KenyiotsLaughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

I don't think the British gave enough thought to naming us. They just mispronounced Kirinyaga as Kenya and thats it, they did not give it further thought. Even a half asleep Englishman could at least have advised to call it Kenyland so to at least rhyme with England and Scotland and Ireland in which case we would be proud Kenyish people. Anyhow they left us with Kenya and by default we became Kenyans.

@Kusadikika. Kenya is and was not a mispronounced Kirinyaga.

Kenya was a mispronounced Kinyaa

Kikamba word meaning 'mountain covered by snow'.
'Ki'denotes 'kiima'=mountain.
'Nyaa'means white snow.

I thought Kikamba is just bad Kikuyu!

@kaka2za, Why didn't you think the other way round? that proves your skewed thinking.

the skew is due to prominence and recent narratives. To me Kikuyu's and Kambas are relatives - brothers or cousins at most. They share a common parentage but they branched out and developed on their own. None came from another but developed separately. Kikuyus also over run/assimilated the hunter gathers that were in their area and thus their genetic make up is not homogeneous.

I know that. I'm talking about below "skewed thinking"... Undermining others and regarding oneself with a feeling of superiority.
kaka2za wrote:
I thought Kikamba is just bad Kikuyu!
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mkeiy
#25 Posted : Monday, September 26, 2016 11:25:15 AM
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AlphDoti wrote:

I know that. I'm talking about below "skewed thinking"... Undermining others and regarding oneself with a feeling of superiority.
kaka2za wrote:
I thought Kikamba is just bad Kikuyu!



@Alph, Forgive him.

He uses "ugikuyu" to fuel his private jet. Genius
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masukuma
#26 Posted : Monday, September 26, 2016 11:38:21 AM
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AlphDoti wrote:
masukuma wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
mkeiy wrote:
Kusadikika wrote:
masukuma wrote:
cyprus? What is the currency of Afghanistan? what is the Afghanistan demonym?


Cypriot. I think that would really sound good. I am a Kenyiot. I can hear the president starting a speech...My fellow KenyiotsLaughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

I don't think the British gave enough thought to naming us. They just mispronounced Kirinyaga as Kenya and thats it, they did not give it further thought. Even a half asleep Englishman could at least have advised to call it Kenyland so to at least rhyme with England and Scotland and Ireland in which case we would be proud Kenyish people. Anyhow they left us with Kenya and by default we became Kenyans.

@Kusadikika. Kenya is and was not a mispronounced Kirinyaga.

Kenya was a mispronounced Kinyaa

Kikamba word meaning 'mountain covered by snow'.
'Ki'denotes 'kiima'=mountain.
'Nyaa'means white snow.

I thought Kikamba is just bad Kikuyu!

@kaka2za, Why didn't you think the other way round? that proves your skewed thinking.

the skew is due to prominence and recent narratives. To me Kikuyu's and Kambas are relatives - brothers or cousins at most. They share a common parentage but they branched out and developed on their own. None came from another but developed separately. Kikuyus also over run/assimilated the hunter gathers that were in their area and thus their genetic make up is not homogeneous.

I know that. I'm talking about below "skewed thinking"... Undermining others and regarding oneself with a feeling of superiority.
kaka2za wrote:
I thought Kikamba is just bad Kikuyu!

indeed... it's sourced from the narratives he has always heard from his kin and peers. he is now being educated. I say education occurs when "preconceived ideology/narratives meets reality and is tested by the immovable reality".
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AlphDoti
#27 Posted : Monday, September 26, 2016 11:40:55 AM
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kaka2za wrote:
Kusadikika wrote:
What do you call a citizen of Niger? 'Nigerien'

What about a citizen of Nigeria?'Nigerian'

I agree with @kaka2za, he is right. But I don't know what is the rule d'oh!
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