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Elliott Wave Analysis Of The NSE 20
lochaz-index
#2181 Posted : Thursday, September 22, 2016 11:52:01 AM
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Expect measly dividend payout from the banks at FY 2016. They have to stash away some dry powder to last the fight. Meanwhile gross sector's NPLs are slowly creeping on the 10% mark. Let's see whether the reduced rates will help to reduce the build up or the tough business environment will negate any gains on that front.

I don't expect any bank to go on a loan buying spree of existing loan accounts...that will be suicide. Stanchart pulled off that stunt in 2014 when KBRR was first introduced @10.9%. For about three months in Q3 they took on loans from all over the park. This came back to sting them hard at FY 2015 through huge provisions. Conservatism is of the essence.
The main purpose of the stock market is to make fools of as many people as possible.
mnandii
#2182 Posted : Thursday, September 22, 2016 6:00:37 PM
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mnandii wrote:
mnandii wrote:
mnandii wrote:
mnandii wrote:
A Socionomic View of Accidents
At market tops (the height of positive social mood) flying is safer while driving is dangerous.

The elevated social mood creates feelings of inclusionism. Flying requires joint effort with different teams working together to make the event a success. Thus enough attention is directed at safety.

The elevated social mood creates optimism. Optimistic drivers over-speed thus leading to accidents.

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In bear markets, social mood is depressed creating feelings of exclusionism (people pulling in different directions). Thus, for flights, this pulling apart precludes paying enough attention to safety measures hence aviation accidents.

Depressed people do not over-speed thus fewer vehicular accidents in a bear market.

Therefore, as this bear matures, ensure you limit frequency of your flying and embark on driving more. smile


Post 1036 on October 15th, 2015


Light aircraft crashes in Ngong

link


Light aircraft crash-lands in Malindi

Sad

link



Aircraft crashes at Nairobi National Park
Sad

Quote:
A light aircraft belonging to SPC Aviation College has crashed at Nairobi National Park.

An instructor and a female student on board the aircraft escaped unhurt.


link

You call them coincidence. We call it the power of The Wave Principle.

Conventional thinkers waste time building shelters when they are unnecessary and then have no shelters when they need them the most. Socionomists do the opposite.
mufasa
#2183 Posted : Thursday, September 22, 2016 8:42:51 PM
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Yea, it can't be coincidence any more. Others are predicting that they will keep falling for the next three years, despite the expected 6% growth on GDP.
Do it today! Tomorrow is promise to no-one.
sparkly
#2184 Posted : Friday, September 23, 2016 5:39:16 AM
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mnandii wrote:
mnandii wrote:
mnandii wrote:
mnandii wrote:
mnandii wrote:
A Socionomic View of Accidents
At market tops (the height of positive social mood) flying is safer while driving is dangerous.

The elevated social mood creates feelings of inclusionism. Flying requires joint effort with different teams working together to make the event a success. Thus enough attention is directed at safety.

The elevated social mood creates optimism. Optimistic drivers over-speed thus leading to accidents.

.................................................

In bear markets, social mood is depressed creating feelings of exclusionism (people pulling in different directions). Thus, for flights, this pulling apart precludes paying enough attention to safety measures hence aviation accidents.

Depressed people do not over-speed thus fewer vehicular accidents in a bear market.

Therefore, as this bear matures, ensure you limit frequency of your flying and embark on driving more. smile


Post 1036 on October 15th, 2015


Light aircraft crashes in Ngong

link


Light aircraft crash-lands in Malindi

Sad

link



Aircraft crashes at Nairobi National Park
Sad

Quote:
A light aircraft belonging to SPC Aviation College has crashed at Nairobi National Park.

An instructor and a female student on board the aircraft escaped unhurt.


link

You call them coincidence. We call it the power of The Wave Principle.



Connection between the stock market and light air plane accidents in kenya is too remote IMO.
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mufasa
#2185 Posted : Friday, September 23, 2016 7:12:50 AM
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Actually, after a bit of thinking, it seems like @mnandii is suggesting that the stock market is a zero-sum game.
From this line if thought, it would follow that all uncertainities that we are about to face e.g. elections, regional political threats, interest rates etc all mean that you can't make money on the NSE in the near future.
But these threats will be with us for possibly a couple of years. Surely, me making money out of the NSE is not predicated on these assumptions.

Do it today! Tomorrow is promise to no-one.
obiero
#2186 Posted : Friday, September 23, 2016 7:27:43 AM
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mufasa wrote:
Actually, after a bit of thinking, it seems like @mnandii is suggesting that the stock market is a zero-sum game.
From this line if thought, it would follow that all uncertainities that we are about to face e.g. elections, regional political threats, interest rates etc all mean that you can't make money on the NSE in the near future.
But these threats will be with us for possibly a couple of years. Surely, me making money out of the NSE is not predicated on these assumptions.


@stocksmaster predicted that the same would happen prior to the last election. That NSE would collapse. But the reverse held true.. Its certainly a risky time, but with the correct counters, luck may smile on your choices

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hisah
#2187 Posted : Friday, September 23, 2016 2:34:11 PM
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Britam Pray

10.00 handle better hold otherwise nasty nosedive ahead!
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
snipermnoma
#2188 Posted : Sunday, September 25, 2016 3:55:54 PM
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hisah wrote:
Britam Pray

10.00 handle better hold otherwise nasty nosedive ahead!


True that. All indications are that it will not hold, this bear will take it down.
Aguytrying
#2189 Posted : Sunday, September 25, 2016 5:03:26 PM
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hisah wrote:
Britam Pray

10.00 handle better hold otherwise nasty nosedive ahead!


There was a rush to buy it at 10 last time, let's see if it holds
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Spikes
#2190 Posted : Sunday, September 25, 2016 6:51:10 PM
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Aguytrying wrote:
hisah wrote:
Britam Pray

10.00 handle better hold otherwise nasty nosedive ahead!


There was a rush to buy it at 10 last time, let's see if it holds



As for now that rush has ran out of steam.
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#2191 Posted : Monday, September 26, 2016 11:13:08 AM
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Spikes wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
hisah wrote:
Britam Pray

10.00 handle better hold otherwise nasty nosedive ahead!


There was a rush to buy it at 10 last time, let's see if it holds



As for now that rush has ran out of steam.

Just hanging in there 10.05 bob .......d'oh! d'oh! d'oh!
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hisah
#2192 Posted : Tuesday, September 27, 2016 4:54:13 PM
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Waiting to see how NSE20 handles the bear pressure test at 3300 and 3460 rate shock gap down zones. The volume in the background is telling a story, which will become clear if the index breaks above 4000 in coming months!

Will this be the KE Brexit parallel Think
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
lochaz-index
#2193 Posted : Tuesday, September 27, 2016 7:03:55 PM
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Post interest cap law the interbank rate has hit a low of 2.64%. Currently it is at 6.20% despite CBK puts to support liquidity in the sector. Granted it is not a sure proof indicator especially after the collapse of three banks but double digit levels would indicate distress.

Parliament has inadvertently and unwittingly turned KE's banking model on its head. Soon enough, some bank will be gasping for air with limited avenues to avail the same.

With a challenging Q4 about to commence, banks had better have their A-game in all aspects concerning risk and liquidity management. Thinner margins and bad macros imply less room for error.
The main purpose of the stock market is to make fools of as many people as possible.
wukan
#2194 Posted : Wednesday, September 28, 2016 10:24:29 AM
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The crowd was burnt to recognition. You can now post and wait to hear the echos
Metasploit
#2195 Posted : Wednesday, September 28, 2016 10:42:15 AM
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hisah wrote:
Waiting to see how NSE20 handles the bear pressure test at 3300 and 3460 rate shock gap down zones. The volume in the background is telling a story, which will become clear if the index breaks above 4000 in coming months!

Will this be the KE Brexit parallel Think


Been watching Equity (As in handles 28-30) levels and COOP handling 12
KCB still has to reset 22-24 to reestablish support post rate cap.
These are key for 3300 test

“The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails.”
lochaz-index
#2196 Posted : Wednesday, September 28, 2016 2:02:15 PM
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hisah wrote:
Waiting to see how NSE20 handles the bear pressure test at 3300 and 3460 rate shock gap down zones. The volume in the background is telling a story, which will become clear if the index breaks above 4000 in coming months!

Will this be the KE Brexit parallel Think

I take it that this is a short-term bounce from the rate cap down slide. The market is back to its default setting of gaining or losing marginally with no clear sense of direction. 4000? That would be quite a relief if it pans out but I doubt its possibility.

Absent of another risk event in Q4(highly unlikely) the index will possibly close the year near the 3000 level.
The main purpose of the stock market is to make fools of as many people as possible.
Gatheuzi
#2197 Posted : Thursday, September 29, 2016 6:57:05 AM
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lochaz-index wrote:
hisah wrote:
Waiting to see how NSE20 handles the bear pressure test at 3300 and 3460 rate shock gap down zones. The volume in the background is telling a story, which will become clear if the index breaks above 4000 in coming months!

Will this be the KE Brexit parallel Think

I take it that this is a short-term bounce from the rate cap down slide. The market is back to its default setting of gaining or losing marginally with no clear sense of direction. 4000? That would be quite a relief if it pans out but I doubt its possibility.

Absent of another risk event in Q4(highly unlikely) the index will possibly close the year near the 3000 level.

I hope Americans will not dissapoint - praying that they elect Trump and shake out globalism for once.
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#2198 Posted : Thursday, September 29, 2016 9:56:57 PM
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The bottom comeS like a thief in the night. Luckily I've been buying since last year and almost stocked up
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mlennyma
#2199 Posted : Friday, September 30, 2016 10:26:26 AM
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Aguytrying wrote:
The bottom comeS like a thief in the night. Luckily I've been buying since last year and almost stocked up

Several counters recovering though I believe no bull in sight ,but the bull will return one day in a similar version by the time we realize several cows will be pregnant smile
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Aguytrying
#2200 Posted : Friday, September 30, 2016 8:02:00 PM
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mlennyma wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
The bottom comeS like a thief in the night. Luckily I've been buying since last year and almost stocked up

Several counters recovering though I believe no bull in sight ,but the bull will return one day in a similar version by the time we realize several cows will be pregnant smile


Hehe. Exactly
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