[quote=githundi][quote=murchr][quote=masukuma][quote=Obi 1 Kanobi]@Masukuma, on occasion you pick the wrong side of a position then die with it.

Ngunyi was contracted by NYS at an agreed fee, he performed the services and was overpaid, he decided to keep quiet about it pretending that he had not noticed. Yes he is a thief.

Its like a shop keeper who does not call you back when you forget to collect your change while he is holding it. Mwizi.

Its definitely not same as someone you don't know making a deposit to your bank account or Mpesa account.

P.S. I have called once to return some misrouted Mpesa. [/quote]
yes... it's not his job to send back money! ukiwacha change kwa duka don't blame the shopkeeper for your mistake. this world is full of people who think because they are good that everyone else should be like them. mwizi huiba... do your job well and don't be careless expecting others to do it for you and being unhappy or even condemn them for not . human beings have lapses but don't walk around like society owes you squat! kila mtu alijileta Nairobi boss.... if it's theft - can you send them to the cops for it? will they be jailed because they were overpaid? NO! of course not!! so it's not theft - you just are offended and equate it to theft but you know it's not. [/quote]

Those who sit watching what payments are getting into their accounts have very little to do. Well maybe its the salary syndrome. If you expect money from various sources keeping up with extra payments is a tall order. Why is no one blaming the one who wrote the 2 checks? [/quote]
@Muchr, it's like a case of a person who gives a bribe and the one who takes the bribe, who is not to blame?
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A bribe is different. The giver and taker are in it together.

This is a case where a merchant wrote an invoice for services offered and a payment was made. Then the payer made another payment later...with no request. Why? Against what invoice was this payer making his payment. We cant give excuses for incompetence. How many more "mistakes" of this nature have been made? Were it not for the audit, would we know?

What disturbs me most is NOT the double payment BUT Mutahi in his own wisdom has come OUT clearly to say that he doesn't KNOW how he got the JOB/TENDER in the first place!
Was it a random selection and if so why? Any precedent?

[quote=Taurrus]What disturbs me most is NOT the double payment BUT Mutahi in his own wisdom has come OUT clearly to say that he doesn't KNOW how he got the JOB/TENDER in the first place!
Was it a random selection and if so why? Any precedent?[/quote]
you know... ukiambiwa ukuje ufanye kazi - utaanza kuuliza kama wengine walipatiwa nafasi ya kufanya hiyo job? yeye hana makosa.... makosa ni ya yule aliye muitia job. he/she has the explanation to do. Safaricom does not ask people who walk into it's door steps to give them money if they have assessed all the market options and are sure that they are making the right choice. the show up and put money on your face - you take it... ulianzisha kampuni kupata pesa sio kufanya serikali ifuate sheria zake.

[quote=masukuma][quote=Taurrus]What disturbs me most is NOT the double payment BUT Mutahi in his own wisdom has come OUT clearly to say that he doesn't KNOW how he got the JOB/TENDER in the first place!
Was it a random selection and if so why? Any precedent?[/quote]
you know... ukiambiwa ukuje ufanye kazi - utaanza kuuliza kama wengine walipatiwa nafasi ya kufanya hiyo job? yeye hana makosa.... makosa ni ya yule aliye muitia job. he/she has the explanation to do. Safaricom does not ask people who walk into it's door steps to give them money if they have assessed all the market options and are sure that they are making the right choice. the show up and put money on your face - you take it... ulianzisha kampuni kupata pesa sio kufanya serikali ifuate sheria zake.[/quote]

Good! so in this case he is NOT part and parcel of whatever this is since I have no name for it[Theft..,kutuma mpesa kwa wrong number, lipa na mpesa kwa wrong till or kuweka pesa kwa wallet..].
Now I ask is holding stolen property/money and being part of a scam NOT a punishable crime?

[quote=Taurrus][quote=masukuma][quote=Taurrus]What disturbs me most is NOT the double payment BUT Mutahi in his own wisdom has come OUT clearly to say that he doesn't KNOW how he got the JOB/TENDER in the first place!
Was it a random selection and if so why? Any precedent?[/quote]
you know... ukiambiwa ukuje ufanye kazi - utaanza kuuliza kama wengine walipatiwa nafasi ya kufanya hiyo job? yeye hana makosa.... makosa ni ya yule aliye muitia job. he/she has the explanation to do. Safaricom does not ask people who walk into it's door steps to give them money if they have assessed all the market options and are sure that they are making the right choice. the show up and put money on your face - you take it... ulianzisha kampuni kupata pesa sio kufanya serikali ifuate sheria zake.[/quote]

Good! so in this case he is NOT part and parcel of whatever this is since I have no name for it[Theft..,kutuma mpesa kwa wrong number, lipa na mpesa kwa wrong till or kuweka pesa kwa wallet..].
Now I ask is holding stolen property/money and being part of a scam NOT a punishable crime?[/quote]

You have to prove that I stole that money this is the legal definition of stealing

"Theft, in law, a general term covering a variety of specific types of stealing, including the crimes of larceny, robbery, and burglary. Theft is defined as the physical removal of an object that is capable of being stolen without the consent of the owner and with the intention of depriving the owner of it permanently."