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Lolest!		#51 Posted : Thursday, September 22, 2016 8:38:00 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma		Pesa Nane wrote: researchfirst wrote: bird_man wrote: RichVee wrote: VituVingiSana wrote: Jon Jones wrote: Mworia is an apprentice corporate mercenary, learning from the legendary Chris Kirubi. When they are done with Centum, there will be nothing left to salvage. Why doesn't Mworia and other employees get paid in shares? What do they know that would make them not receive their bonuses in shares? Why would a company pay out over 1 billion in salaries and bonuses and pay just 665 million in 8 years in dividends? It is obvious that employees are gaining more than shareholders which should never be the case. Didn't Mworia use that money to buy Centum shares? http://www.businessdaily...4/-/fkv6cp/-/index.html "Centum’s chief executive James Mworia has acquired four million shares worth Sh207.4 million in the investment company, breaking into the list of the firm’s top 10 shareholders." The figures match. It helps when the CEO invests in the company. I would want to believe that at his age, he falls into the category of leaders who would want to leave a legacy of a successful organisation... His shares now worth about 187M (4M*43sh). So what happens when you con guys off 1B?Plus he could easily exit.The books don't make sense!They live off revaluation gains! His shares are now worth Sh231.6 million and he says he spent a cumulative Sh315 million of his bonus payments over the years on buying the firm's stock. See http://www.businessdaily...em-0-2q12v2/index.html. That is not an easy position to unload. His interests and the shareholders' seem aligned to me. Pay OBESE bonuses and NIL dividends Nil Dividend = Suffocated share price Buy on the cheap with the bonus + add "I'm also taking a hit" lie Own bigger and bigger share of the company Start paying (fat) dividends, offer bonus shares, pump FLIP Genius!
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enyands		#52 Posted : Thursday, September 22, 2016 9:20:59 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 12/25/2014 Posts: 2,301 Location: kenya		Pesa Nane wrote: researchfirst wrote: bird_man wrote: RichVee wrote: VituVingiSana wrote: Jon Jones wrote: Mworia is an apprentice corporate mercenary, learning from the legendary Chris Kirubi. When they are done with Centum, there will be nothing left to salvage. Why doesn't Mworia and other employees get paid in shares? What do they know that would make them not receive their bonuses in shares? Why would a company pay out over 1 billion in salaries and bonuses and pay just 665 million in 8 years in dividends? It is obvious that employees are gaining more than shareholders which should never be the case. Didn't Mworia use that money to buy Centum shares? http://www.businessdaily...4/-/fkv6cp/-/index.html "Centum’s chief executive James Mworia has acquired four million shares worth Sh207.4 million in the investment company, breaking into the list of the firm’s top 10 shareholders." The figures match. It helps when the CEO invests in the company. I would want to believe that at his age, he falls into the category of leaders who would want to leave a legacy of a successful organisation... His shares now worth about 187M (4M*43sh). So what happens when you con guys off 1B?Plus he could easily exit.The books don't make sense!They live off revaluation gains! His shares are now worth Sh231.6 million and he says he spent a cumulative Sh315 million of his bonus payments over the years on buying the firm's stock. See http://www.businessdaily...em-0-2q12v2/index.html. That is not an easy position to unload. His interests and the shareholders' seem aligned to me. Pay OBESE bonuses and NIL dividends Nil Dividend = Suffocated share price Buy on the cheap with the bonus + add "I'm also taking a hit" lie Own bigger and bigger share of the company Start paying (fat) dividends, offer bonus shares, pump FLIP Bow down to you 8c. Umegusa gspot . It's true
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Ericsson		#53 Posted : Thursday, September 22, 2016 9:43:18 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,808 Location: NAIROBI		Na mtu anacum Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Aguytrying		#54 Posted : Thursday, September 22, 2016 11:10:48 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2010 Posts: 5,040		enyands wrote: Pesa Nane wrote: researchfirst wrote: bird_man wrote: RichVee wrote: VituVingiSana wrote: Jon Jones wrote: Mworia is an apprentice corporate mercenary, learning from the legendary Chris Kirubi. When they are done with Centum, there will be nothing left to salvage. Why doesn't Mworia and other employees get paid in shares? What do they know that would make them not receive their bonuses in shares? Why would a company pay out over 1 billion in salaries and bonuses and pay just 665 million in 8 years in dividends? It is obvious that employees are gaining more than shareholders which should never be the case. Didn't Mworia use that money to buy Centum shares? http://www.businessdaily...4/-/fkv6cp/-/index.html "Centum’s chief executive James Mworia has acquired four million shares worth Sh207.4 million in the investment company, breaking into the list of the firm’s top 10 shareholders." The figures match. It helps when the CEO invests in the company. I would want to believe that at his age, he falls into the category of leaders who would want to leave a legacy of a successful organisation... His shares now worth about 187M (4M*43sh). So what happens when you con guys off 1B?Plus he could easily exit.The books don't make sense!They live off revaluation gains! His shares are now worth Sh231.6 million and he says he spent a cumulative Sh315 million of his bonus payments over the years on buying the firm's stock. See http://www.businessdaily...em-0-2q12v2/index.html. That is not an easy position to unload. His interests and the shareholders' seem aligned to me. Pay OBESE bonuses and NIL dividends Nil Dividend = Suffocated share price Buy on the cheap with the bonus + add "I'm also taking a hit" lie Own bigger and bigger share of the company Start paying (fat) dividends, offer bonus shares, pump FLIP Bow down to you 8c. Umegusa gspot . It's true 8/8 The only shareholders interests he is aligned with are his own shareholder interests. A firm that perform these clever acrobatics that seem so genius and innovative. Is normally headed down a slippery path. Shareholders be warned. Don't be caught dancing when the music stops The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
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sparkly		#55 Posted : Friday, September 23, 2016 6:05:07 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi		Aguytrying wrote: enyands wrote: Pesa Nane wrote: researchfirst wrote: bird_man wrote: RichVee wrote: VituVingiSana wrote: Jon Jones wrote: Mworia is an apprentice corporate mercenary, learning from the legendary Chris Kirubi. When they are done with Centum, there will be nothing left to salvage. Why doesn't Mworia and other employees get paid in shares? What do they know that would make them not receive their bonuses in shares? Why would a company pay out over 1 billion in salaries and bonuses and pay just 665 million in 8 years in dividends? It is obvious that employees are gaining more than shareholders which should never be the case. Didn't Mworia use that money to buy Centum shares? http://www.businessdaily...4/-/fkv6cp/-/index.html "Centum’s chief executive James Mworia has acquired four million shares worth Sh207.4 million in the investment company, breaking into the list of the firm’s top 10 shareholders." The figures match. It helps when the CEO invests in the company. I would want to believe that at his age, he falls into the category of leaders who would want to leave a legacy of a successful organisation... His shares now worth about 187M (4M43sh). So what happens when you con guys off 1B?Plus he could easily exit.The books don't make sense!They live off revaluation gains! His shares are now worth Sh231.6 million and he says he spent a cumulative Sh315 million of his bonus payments over the years on buying the firm's stock. See http://www.businessdaily...em-0-2q12v2/index.html. That is not an easy position to unload. His interests and the shareholders' seem aligned to me. Pay OBESE bonuses and NIL dividends Nil Dividend = Suffocated share price Buy on the cheap with the bonus + add "I'm also taking a hit" lie Own bigger and bigger share of the company Start paying (fat) dividends, offer bonus shares, pump FLIP Bow down to you 8c. Umegusa gspot . It's true 8/8 The only shareholders interests he is aligned with are his own shareholder interests. A firm that perform these clever acrobatics that seem so genius and innovative. Is normally headed down a slippery path. Shareholders be warned. Don't be caught dancing when the music stops I agree with you 100%. The employees eating the top cream while shareholders bear the risk. Life is short. Live passionately.*
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kimanimsc		#56 Posted : Saturday, October 08, 2016 3:21:07 PM
Rank: Member Joined: 5/4/2015 Posts: 241 Location: Kahno		"Thank you HE@ UKenyatta for affording me the opportunity to serve as Chancellor of Machakos University. I am truly honoured." Says Mworia https://twitter.com/Mwor...tatus/784384898454945792
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Spikes		#57 Posted : Saturday, October 08, 2016 4:39:46 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 9/20/2015 Posts: 2,811 Location: Mombasa		kimanimsc wrote: "Thank you HE@ UKenyatta for affording me the opportunity to serve as Chancellor of Machakos University. I am truly honoured." Says Mworia https://twitter.com/Mwor...atus/784384898454945792 Such appointment does not add value to Centum stock. John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
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VituVingiSana		#58 Posted : Saturday, October 08, 2016 9:03:44 PM
Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,349 Location: Nairobi		Spikes wrote: kimanimsc wrote: "Thank you HE@ UKenyatta for affording me the opportunity to serve as Chancellor of Machakos University. I am truly honoured." Says Mworia https://twitter.com/Mwor...atus/784384898454945792 Such appointment does not add value to Centum stock. Agreed! CEOs should be 100% dedicated to one firm. Naikuni was on so many boards while KQ was being ripped off. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - *to paraphrase Warren Buffett*
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Swenani		#59 Posted : Saturday, October 08, 2016 9:16:38 PM
Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum		VituVingiSana wrote: Spikes wrote: kimanimsc wrote: "Thank you HE@ UKenyatta for affording me the opportunity to serve as Chancellor of Machakos University. I am truly honoured." Says Mworia https://twitter.com/Mwor...atus/784384898454945792 Such appointment does not add value to Centum stock. Agreed! CEOs should be 100% dedicated to one firm. Naikuni was on so many boards while he was ripping off KQ. If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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researchfirst		#60 Posted : Monday, October 10, 2016 9:20:49 PM
Rank: Member Joined: 2/24/2015 Posts: 154 Location: Nairobi		Spikes wrote: kimanimsc wrote: "Thank you HE@ UKenyatta for affording me the opportunity to serve as Chancellor of Machakos University. I am truly honoured." Says Mworia https://twitter.com/Mwor...atus/784384898454945792 Such appointment does not add value to Centum stock. I am sorry to say it, but Wazuans are stupid. What country do you live in? I live in Kenya. How many have gotten rich as an enemy of Government? How many have gotten rich as a friend of Government? Who will win next year (regardless of who you want)? Who is a friend of those who will win and which company is he fronting? Read the tea leaves, regardless of your scruples. We aren't here for moral principles. We are here to make money. Wish it was otherwise, but it is not.
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