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Law Capping interest rates
kaifastus
#1081 Posted : Wednesday, September 14, 2016 9:58:04 PM
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Equity is still not clear on existing loans.
watesh
#1082 Posted : Wednesday, September 14, 2016 10:11:31 PM
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Aguytrying wrote:
Shouldn't safaricom price also take a haircut if they will adjust their rates downwards

Hahaha this giant makes peanuts from mshwari...mpesa transaction charges make up the bulk of that revenue
obiero
#1083 Posted : Thursday, September 15, 2016 7:15:16 AM
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kaifastus wrote:
Equity is still not clear on existing loans.

The CBK circular was silent
silent too


HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
newfarer
#1084 Posted : Thursday, September 15, 2016 7:20:33 AM
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obiero wrote:
kaifastus wrote:
Equity is still not clear on existing loans.

The CBK circular was silent
silent too


CBK seems watermelon on this issue. Not serious. Thanks to the mps for doing the right thing and president too. The blood sucking loan vampires can sit on a pin
punda amecheka
HaMaina
#1085 Posted : Thursday, September 15, 2016 8:37:46 AM
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kaifastus wrote:
Equity is still not clear on existing loans.


Here is the full detail.

EQUITY BANK PRESS BRIEFING

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaTtTmLpc9k

Enjoy
“You can get in way more trouble with a good idea than a bad idea, because you forget that the good idea has limits.” - Ben Graham
Ericsson
#1086 Posted : Thursday, September 15, 2016 9:09:09 AM
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Coop bank considers a maximum of 50% of your after tax income as what can be applied to your mortgage
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
hisah
#1087 Posted : Thursday, September 15, 2016 11:21:38 AM
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Equity shakes market with mobile phone loans rate cut

Quote:
Equity Bank chief executive James Mwangi said customers borrowing through the lender’s Eazzy loans (its mobile phone-based credit offering) will be charged at the maximum rate of 14.5 per cent per annum on a reducing balance – a figure that translates to approximately 0.65 per cent per month.

“You can’t partner with a non-bank institution - a fintech or telcom – and pretend you can be outside this law – it says directly or indirectly. The issue of mobile is clearly spelt in this law,” said Mr Mwangi.


14.5% p.a. can never translate to 0.65% per month. Editors sleeping on the job.
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streetwise
#1088 Posted : Thursday, September 15, 2016 11:34:32 AM
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I tell you something , I have respect for JM. The kind of courage he has is what makes him win.

With this courage you can win any war
jerry
#1089 Posted : Thursday, September 15, 2016 3:10:04 PM
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KulaRaha wrote:
penkon wrote:
obiero wrote:
Impunity wrote:
watesh wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
Equity announces all loans got to 14.5% including Equitel.

So, who was recommending we buy this stock?

So Equitel loans will be 1.2%. That is almost free money. Unless they introduce a fee, that cash cow is gone


At 1.2% pm for Equitel-loan, that will be free money.
Imagine borrowing 10,000 shillings and pay Kes. 120 as interest?

I hope I am dreaming.

Applause Applause Applause Applause

There is no link to the Equitel rumor.. Treat it as a hoax meant to fatigue the price of Equity stock

no hoax, Dr. mwangi amesema https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaTtTmLpc9k



Its real, even his Head of Retail has tweeted:


Does it (law) apply to SACCOs?
The opposite of courage is not cowardice, it's conformity.
Impunity
#1090 Posted : Thursday, September 15, 2016 3:32:18 PM
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jerry wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
penkon wrote:
obiero wrote:
Impunity wrote:
watesh wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
Equity announces all loans got to 14.5% including Equitel.

So, who was recommending we buy this stock?

So Equitel loans will be 1.2%. That is almost free money. Unless they introduce a fee, that cash cow is gone


At 1.2% pm for Equitel-loan, that will be free money.
Imagine borrowing 10,000 shillings and pay Kes. 120 as interest?

I hope I am dreaming.

Applause Applause Applause Applause

There is no link to the Equitel rumor.. Treat it as a hoax meant to fatigue the price of Equity stock

no hoax, Dr. mwangi amesema https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaTtTmLpc9k



Its real, even his Head of Retail has tweeted:


Does it (law) apply to SACCOs?


SACCOS are Saccos and not Banks.
Saccos are Chamas.
Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

Impunity
#1091 Posted : Thursday, September 15, 2016 3:53:04 PM
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M-thurari just sent me an sms that my deposit will now earn 7.35% pa while the loan "facility fee" remained 7.5% per loan.

Very hogwash coz they think the spirit of the LAW will not catch up with them.

First they have not even said if the loan period is indefinite, they have not said whether the loan facility fee is 7.5% pm, pa or indef!

If you look at the "normal loan" say a Kes.1,000,000 loan, a bank will normally lend you at an interest of say 14.5% pa and charge you a facilitation fee of 1% paid once.

So this means M-thurari is giving us loans at a ZERO interest rate with facilitation fee levied at 7.5%, per what? I dont know!

These guys will not know what hit them when everyone will singing Equitel.

May be shit will hit them.

Thank me.
Sad
Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

obiero
#1092 Posted : Thursday, September 15, 2016 3:59:09 PM
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Impunity wrote:
M-thurari just sent me an sms that my deposit will now earn 7.35% pa while the loan "facility fee" remained 7.5% per loan.

Very hogwash coz they think the spirit of the LAW will not catch up with them.

First they have not even said if the loan period is indefinite, they have not said whether the loan facility fee is 7.5% pm, pa or indef!

If you look at the "normal loan" say a Kes.1,000,000 loan, a bank will normally lend you at an interest of say 14.5% pa and charge you a facilitation fee of 1% paid once.

So this means M-thurari is giving us loans at a ZERO interest rate with facilitation fee levied at 7.5%, per what? I dont know!

These guys will not know what hit them when everyone will singing Equitel.

May be shit will hit them.

Thank me.
Sad

Equity will kill CBA unless they react immediately

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
VituVingiSana
#1093 Posted : Thursday, September 15, 2016 4:25:44 PM
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Impunity wrote:
M-thurari just sent me an sms that my deposit will now earn 7.35% pa while the loan "facility fee" remained 7.5% per loan.

Very hogwash coz they think the spirit of the LAW will not catch up with them.

First they have not even said if the loan period is indefinite, they have not said whether the loan facility fee is 7.5% pm, pa or indef!

If you look at the "normal loan" say a Kes.1,000,000 loan, a bank will normally lend you at an interest of say 14.5% pa and charge you a facilitation fee of 1% paid once.

So this means M-thurari is giving us loans at a ZERO interest rate with facilitation fee levied at 7.5%, per what? I dont know!

These guys will not know what hit them when everyone will singing Equitel.

May be shit will hit them.

Thank me.
Sad


I prefer Equity over KCB! Big up to JM.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Impunity
#1094 Posted : Thursday, September 15, 2016 4:39:47 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Impunity wrote:
M-thurari just sent me an sms that my deposit will now earn 7.35% pa while the loan "facility fee" remained 7.5% per loan.

Very hogwash coz they think the spirit of the LAW will not catch up with them.

First they have not even said if the loan period is indefinite, they have not said whether the loan facility fee is 7.5% pm, pa or indef!

If you look at the "normal loan" say a Kes.1,000,000 loan, a bank will normally lend you at an interest of say 14.5% pa and charge you a facilitation fee of 1% paid once.

So this means M-thurari is giving us loans at a ZERO interest rate with facilitation fee levied at 7.5%, per what? I dont know!

These guys will not know what hit them when everyone will singing Equitel.

May be shit will hit them.

Thank me.
Sad


I prefer Equity over KCB! Big up to JM.


These CBA guys are still flip floping between defining a fee and an iterest when the spirit of the law is very clear.
Equity just nailed it!

CBA want to pay us deposit on fixed income at 7.35% pa and charge us interest of 90% pa...okay.

Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

streetwise
#1095 Posted : Thursday, September 15, 2016 4:42:54 PM
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The banks need to remember the per minute and per second war between safcom and airtel.

From the time airtel lost that war they never recovered.

They need to copy JM and very quickly
washiku
#1096 Posted : Thursday, September 15, 2016 4:53:58 PM
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wukan
#1097 Posted : Thursday, September 15, 2016 5:13:58 PM
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wukan wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
obiero wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
At 12.9% kcb and co are doomed.

What forms the basis of your judgement. Kenyan banks could lend at 5% and still make a profit.. It all depends on cost of funds.. Recalibration of the accounts that qualify for the minimum of 70% on CBR shall determine which bank thrives.. COOP via the SACCO movement remains the best bet to ride this wave


With a gross spread of 6% and npls higher, how will they earn a profit?


The aim is to maintain the market share so for a while the profit motive takes a chill. I would bet Equity would come at 12% and effectively wipe out the Sacco movement's value proposition. Why would anyone borrow their own money at 12% when you can get it from the bank? I would expect Sacco deposits will shrink so Coop would the worst bus


James Mwangi makes this point clear, "saccos, MFIs will struggle to defend their market share". It's a volume game only the big boys will survive.

http://www.bloomberg.com...an-banks-equity-ceo-says
Aguytrying
#1098 Posted : Thursday, September 15, 2016 6:54:09 PM
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I need an equitel line. Stat. This is free money!
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
murchr
#1099 Posted : Thursday, September 15, 2016 6:57:47 PM
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"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Plimsoul
#1100 Posted : Thursday, September 15, 2016 7:50:44 PM
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Equity's new strategy post capping is just its old strategy: grow fast, use equitel, efficiency. What's new?
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