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Kenya ready for take off
murchr
#241 Posted : Wednesday, September 07, 2016 4:59:09 AM
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enyands
#242 Posted : Wednesday, September 07, 2016 5:30:53 AM
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I mentioned once why can't we think the same ,if this industry gets established in kenya people will have jobs , govt will collect more PAYE,crime will drop .why can't we think the same?wasn't there a time Alfred Mutua wanted to give land for free to manufacturing companies at machakos?what happened? Did it take off?

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Dangote also started selling cement in Tanzania early this year after completing its factory in Mtwara about 400 kilometers from the country’s capital, Dar es salaam


My simple math head is asking me, why did Dangote go to tanzania, skip kenya and then went to ethiopia? ??? Why? I thought kenya is a magnate for foreign investors? ?
sitaki.kujulikana
#243 Posted : Wednesday, September 07, 2016 10:49:25 AM
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enyands wrote:


I mentioned once why can't we think the same ,if this industry gets established in kenya people will have jobs , govt will collect more PAYE,crime will drop .why can't we think the same?wasn't there a time Alfred Mutua wanted to give land for free to manufacturing companies at machakos?what happened? Did it take off?

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Dangote also started selling cement in Tanzania early this year after completing its factory in Mtwara about 400 kilometers from the country’s capital, Dar es salaam


My simple math head is asking me, why did Dangote go to tanzania, skip kenya and then went to ethiopia? ??? Why? I thought kenya is a magnate for foreign investors? ?

Dangote sio foreign investor smile but power plays a big role in this cement biashara, plus add the cartels, the enviromentalists, and huyu Dangote could not play ball hapa
kaka2za
#244 Posted : Wednesday, September 07, 2016 10:51:30 AM
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enyands wrote:


I mentioned once why can't we think the same ,if this industry gets established in kenya people will have jobs , govt will collect more PAYE,crime will drop .why can't we think the same?wasn't there a time Alfred Mutua wanted to give land for free to manufacturing companies at machakos?what happened? Did it take off?

Quote:
Dangote also started selling cement in Tanzania early this year after completing its factory in Mtwara about 400 kilometers from the country’s capital, Dar es salaam


My simple math head is asking me, why did Dangote go to tanzania, skip kenya and then went to ethiopia? ??? Why? I thought kenya is a magnate for foreign investors? ?



Easy,Raw materials. Kenya is not particularly well endowed in natural resources compared with its neighbors. Our strength is a well trained workforce and robust finance system.
Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
Lolest!
#245 Posted : Wednesday, September 07, 2016 11:40:19 AM
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An entrepreneur's rant on the difficulty of starting a business in Kenya

Some Kenyan politician had suggested that he tries Rwanda instead

We The Minions
Laughing out loudly smile Applause d'oh! Sad Drool Liar Shame on you Pray
Obi 1 Kanobi
#246 Posted : Wednesday, September 07, 2016 12:04:57 PM
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sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
enyands wrote:


I mentioned once why can't we think the same ,if this industry gets established in kenya people will have jobs , govt will collect more PAYE,crime will drop .why can't we think the same?wasn't there a time Alfred Mutua wanted to give land for free to manufacturing companies at machakos?what happened? Did it take off?

Quote:
Dangote also started selling cement in Tanzania early this year after completing its factory in Mtwara about 400 kilometers from the country’s capital, Dar es salaam


My simple math head is asking me, why did Dangote go to tanzania, skip kenya and then went to ethiopia? ??? Why? I thought kenya is a magnate for foreign investors? ?

Dangote sio foreign investor smile but power plays a big role in this cement biashara, plus add the cartels, the enviromentalists, and huyu Dangote could not play ball hapa


Most likely driven away by our "RENT SEEKING" political class. Someone must have told him to part with 5% of his local shareholding to have the licence expedited. He being who is is, he must have given them the middle finger and told them to F***-off.

I hear there is an investor who has been denied a sugar factory licence coz he has refused to part with Sh 200M
"The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
Ash Ock
#247 Posted : Wednesday, September 07, 2016 12:17:54 PM
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Location: Nairobi
Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
Most likely driven away by our "RENT SEEKING" political class. Someone must have told him to part with 5% of his local shareholding to have the licence expedited. He being who is is, he must have given them the middle finger and told them to F***-off.

I hear there is an investor who has been denied a sugar factory licence coz he has refused to part with Sh 200M


Bitange Ndemo wrote about this last year:

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Investors in Ethiopia are happy that the government is taking the initiative and delivering on promises. They are flocking in, and the many hotel brands that have mushroomed all over Addis Ababa are not disappointed.

During the reception at the Radisson Blue, I meet a group of European investors and this is what they told me. Initially, their desire was to set up in Kenya and grow their business to other parts of Africa.

They travelled to Nairobi. Through a local contact, they tried to set up an appointment with the Minister but after several days in Nairobi, the appointment never materialised.

They went back to Europe, saying they would try to get a firm appointment before coming back to Kenya. Eventually, the appointment was set up and they travelled to Kenya.

On reaching the Ministry, they were told that the Minister would not be in. He had abruptly travelled, without sending an apology to his guests.

A Director at the Ministry met with them and since he could not commit in anything, they achieved nothing.

But they had one last hope. That evening, they were to meet with a county Governor for dinner. The Governor showed up late with his wife, giving excuses that they had had a long drive and the traffic was unbearable.

As they talked, the county Governor’s wife interrupted to tell the investors that she was setting up a children’s home and she would need Sh10 million donation to set off the project.

By this time they had made up their mind that Kenya was not going to be the place to invest. They politely paid for the dinner and left without mentioning the reason why they wanted to talk to the Governor.

To their surprise, the Governor did not ask what the purpose of their meeting was. With their Kenyan link, they decided to give Ethiopia a try.

One phone call and an Ethiopian official on a Tuesday morning secured an appointment the next day, Wednesday. They travelled to Ethiopia and were met at the Airport.

To their amazement, they were driven to the prestigious Sheraton Hotel by a retinue of vehicles led by a police car with a siren. In the evening, the Foreign Ministry had arranged a dinner with two other Ministers.

During the dinner, they were asked what kind of investment they were interested in. After explaining what they wanted, they were told that the following morning they would meet with the Governor of Oromia.

After breakfast on Thursday, they were driven to Oromia. The Governor was waiting for them. They were promptly shown three sites where they could put up the investment.

By 1pm, they had signed up a memorandum of understanding. Slightly more than three months later, they are through with the initial infrastructure on the ground.

With this speed of action, it does not surprise me why the Ethiopians are re-writing the story of economic transformation.


http://www.nation.co.ke/...5990-120u333z/index.html
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mkeiy
#248 Posted : Wednesday, September 07, 2016 12:19:53 PM
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kaka2za wrote:
enyands wrote:


I mentioned once why can't we think the same ,if this industry gets established in kenya people will have jobs , govt will collect more PAYE,crime will drop .why can't we think the same?wasn't there a time Alfred Mutua wanted to give land for free to manufacturing companies at machakos?what happened? Did it take off?

Quote:
Dangote also started selling cement in Tanzania early this year after completing its factory in Mtwara about 400 kilometers from the country’s capital, Dar es salaam


My simple math head is asking me, why did Dangote go to tanzania, skip kenya and then went to ethiopia? ??? Why? I thought kenya is a magnate for foreign investors? ?



Easy,Raw materials. Kenya is not particularly well endowed in natural resources compared with its neighbors. Our strength is a well trained workforce and robust finance system.



@Kaka2za, As in, we don't have raw materials for making cement in Kenya?

Hata kama ni excuse, hiyo miguu haina.
alma1
#249 Posted : Wednesday, September 07, 2016 12:34:03 PM
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Location: hapo
There are things on wazua I've said that sound bad.......to other people

But there's only one thing I regret...Bashing Bitange Ndemo

Gichimu Kahenya's story is being repeated daily...While others go to state house to look for money, those with real ideas are chased away...

Enyewe bwana Ndemo, I trully apologise...I'm still against Konza but it seems you knew something I did not know...So now I'll remain positive about that idea.

Entreprenuers need their own little city in this country...Just like Las Vegas...

Policy, policy, policy...not painted cars and stupid laws.
Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?

kaka2za
#250 Posted : Wednesday, September 07, 2016 1:28:30 PM
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mkeiy wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
enyands wrote:


I mentioned once why can't we think the same ,if this industry gets established in kenya people will have jobs , govt will collect more PAYE,crime will drop .why can't we think the same?wasn't there a time Alfred Mutua wanted to give land for free to manufacturing companies at machakos?what happened? Did it take off?

Quote:
Dangote also started selling cement in Tanzania early this year after completing its factory in Mtwara about 400 kilometers from the country’s capital, Dar es salaam


My simple math head is asking me, why did Dangote go to tanzania, skip kenya and then went to ethiopia? ??? Why? I thought kenya is a magnate for foreign investors? ?



Easy,Raw materials. Kenya is not particularly well endowed in natural resources compared with its neighbors. Our strength is a well trained workforce and robust finance system.



@Kaka2za, As in, we don't have raw materials for making cement in Kenya?

Hata kama ni excuse, hiyo miguu haina.


We do but they are more costly. Land in Tzand Ethiopia is mainly controlled by government and it is easy to negotiate with government than trying to bargain with a thousand small holders who are constantly incited by their leaders to demand higher compensation.
In short to get access to 100 hectares in Kenya you talk to 10,000 farmers,their families,brokers,politicians,NGO activists,criminals etc...the cost is too high!
Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
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