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Law Capping interest rates
mlennyma
#921 Posted : Tuesday, September 06, 2016 9:58:59 AM
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mlennyma wrote:
http://www.nation.co.ke/business/Cytonn-assigns-buy-rating-to-banking-stocks/996-3370094-myqaeu/index.html

buy and stop making noise
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#922 Posted : Tuesday, September 06, 2016 10:11:57 AM
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#923 Posted : Tuesday, September 06, 2016 10:15:28 AM
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Another haircut in the offing!!! This guy needs to open an mpesa paybill number smile smile smile
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obiero
#924 Posted : Tuesday, September 06, 2016 10:36:31 AM
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It would be funny if the threat of bank runs didn't exist. If anyone here holds cash in anything but a tier 1 or select tier 2, sleep with one eye open. Thank me later

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Baratang
#925 Posted : Tuesday, September 06, 2016 10:38:52 AM
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This petition is not going anywhere. When the bill was signed into law it cleary stipulated that the prevailing interest rate will be based upon the Central Bank Rate (CBR) as the benchmark.
Ngalaka
#926 Posted : Tuesday, September 06, 2016 11:03:58 AM
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This guy lives in Court or something!
I like the way he has influenced matters in our political and legal landscape. At least one effective activist.
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#927 Posted : Tuesday, September 06, 2016 11:07:25 AM
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Baratang wrote:

This petition is not going anywhere. When the bill was signed into law it cleary stipulated that the prevailing interest rate will be based upon the Central Bank Rate (CBR) as the benchmark.


Really? I understand the Hansard say it was KBRR MPs were referring to...

So much half baked info out there, all because CBK wont give direction.
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mkate_nusu
#928 Posted : Tuesday, September 06, 2016 11:10:57 AM
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Baratang wrote:

This petition is not going anywhere. When the bill was signed into law it cleary stipulated that the prevailing interest rate will be based upon the Central Bank Rate (CBR) as the benchmark.


the interest rates can even shoot up to 20% when the CBR rises to 16%.
This guy is talking of the Kenya Banks Reference Rate (KBRR)
nothing new here.
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Impunity
#929 Posted : Tuesday, September 06, 2016 11:14:46 AM
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mkate_nusu wrote:
Baratang wrote:

This petition is not going anywhere. When the bill was signed into law it cleary stipulated that the prevailing interest rate will be based upon the Central Bank Rate (CBR) as the benchmark.


the interest rates can even shoot up to 20% when the CBR rises to 16%.
This guy is talking of the Kenya Banks Reference Rate (KBRR)
nothing new here.


Its the same CBK who sets the KBRR...so this is a zero sum equation...CBR can easily set the KBRR = CBR.

Mta do?
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KulaRaha
#930 Posted : Tuesday, September 06, 2016 11:18:01 AM
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When you borrow, you current letter of offer states KBRR, not CBR. All banks complied with this.

So now, isn't KBRR the published reference rate?
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mkate_nusu
#931 Posted : Tuesday, September 06, 2016 11:31:27 AM
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Fellow wazuans, reading is free and it was all over the news

Under the new law, lending rates will be capped at four percentage points above the benchmark central bank rate, which is currently 10.5 per cent, while deposit rates must be at least 70 per cent of the benchmark rate.
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KulaRaha
#932 Posted : Tuesday, September 06, 2016 11:37:24 AM
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mkate_nusu wrote:
Fellow wazuans, reading is free and it was all over the news

Under the new law, lending rates will be capped at four percentage points above the benchmark central bank rate, which is currently 10.5 per cent, while deposit rates must be at least 70 per cent of the benchmark rate.


The law makes no reference to CBR...just a base rate. What is base?
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Plimsoul
#933 Posted : Tuesday, September 06, 2016 11:49:53 AM
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KulaRaha wrote:
mkate_nusu wrote:
Fellow wazuans, reading is free and it was all over the news

Under the new law, lending rates will be capped at four percentage points above the benchmark central bank rate, which is currently 10.5 per cent, while deposit rates must be at least 70 per cent of the benchmark rate.


The law makes no reference to CBR...just a base rate. What is base?


Actually, the law says:

“A bank or financial institution shall set the maximum interest rate chargeable for a credit facility in Kenya at no more than four per cent, the base rate set and published by the Central Bank of Kenya”

and yes, it is that poorly worded. Even the word 'above' is missing.
KulaRaha
#934 Posted : Tuesday, September 06, 2016 11:50:56 AM
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So it can even be inferred that base rate is 4%?
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Plimsoul
#935 Posted : Tuesday, September 06, 2016 12:01:13 PM
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KulaRaha wrote:
So it can even be inferred that base rate is 4%?


Yes.

Even 4% of the base rate. Lol
KulaRaha
#936 Posted : Tuesday, September 06, 2016 12:02:30 PM
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Plimsoul wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
So it can even be inferred that base rate is 4%?


Yes.

Even 4% of the base rate. Lol


CBK needs to come in soon...else Mr Njoroge's legacy will be the destruction of the banking sector in Kenya. He's already closed 3 down...
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obiero
#937 Posted : Tuesday, September 06, 2016 12:13:50 PM
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KulaRaha wrote:
Plimsoul wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
So it can even be inferred that base rate is 4%?


Yes.

Even 4% of the base rate. Lol


CBK needs to come in soon...else Mr Njoroge's legacy will be the destruction of the banking sector in Kenya. He's already closed 3 down...

LOL. Those banks self destructed..

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Plimsoul
#938 Posted : Tuesday, September 06, 2016 12:25:18 PM
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KulaRaha wrote:
Plimsoul wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
So it can even be inferred that base rate is 4%?


Yes.

Even 4% of the base rate. Lol


CBK needs to come in soon...else Mr Njoroge's legacy will be the destruction of the banking sector in Kenya. He's already closed 3 down...


Hopefully CBK responds to banks (privately) when they seek clarification/guidance.
KulaRaha
#939 Posted : Tuesday, September 06, 2016 1:07:25 PM
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Plimsoul wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
Plimsoul wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
So it can even be inferred that base rate is 4%?


Yes.

Even 4% of the base rate. Lol


CBK needs to come in soon...else Mr Njoroge's legacy will be the destruction of the banking sector in Kenya. He's already closed 3 down...


Hopefully CBK responds to banks (privately) when they seek clarification/guidance.


As a customer, dont you feel its your right to know the correct interpretation?
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Plimsoul
#940 Posted : Tuesday, September 06, 2016 3:09:18 PM
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KulaRaha wrote:
Plimsoul wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
Plimsoul wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
So it can even be inferred that base rate is 4%?


Yes.

Even 4% of the base rate. Lol


CBK needs to come in soon...else Mr Njoroge's legacy will be the destruction of the banking sector in Kenya. He's already closed 3 down...


Hopefully CBK responds to banks (privately) when they seek clarification/guidance.


As a customer, dont you feel its your right to know the correct interpretation?


Absolutely.

I think this has been terribly mishandled so far.

CBK should have issued clarification with its 14th Sept ultimatum.

But we are customers of banks, not the CBK. It is up to banks to get clarification and pass it on to us.
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